You can dispute his premise all you want, but box office numbers don't lie. Who is the demographic to come to Disney's movies? Right now both The Marvels and Wish are tanking. Aging boomers aren't the crowd who would be going to either. It would be young parents with children. And they are not showing up. Maybe it's because they disagree with Disney's politics. Maybe it's because the content is crap. Maybe it's both. But whatever the reason, they aren't showing up.
I was thinking 3 others…but yeah him too
Why do you keep saying this freaking nonsense.
Ok.
Ok. This is helpful. I suppose I do "blame" (still not sure about that word) some folks for spreading misinformation about Disney products, like what's in a film or what some underlying agenda might have been. But in cases like this, the blame would be on Disney, for not countering that misinformation.
You seem upset (or maybe frustrated), so I imagine you wouldn't like my response.
I think this is the real question, is Disneys audience really changing?
I’m frustrated because you keep saying the same thing over and over without giving any context.
Must be a price bump, that costs 549M each time it's paid
True. The audiences have demonstrated with the investment of their time and money (or lack thereof) that regardless of age or any other dynamic that what Disney is making and putting out for the "changing audience" is not what the real audiences want. The perceived "changes" that Disney powers that be claim are happening, simply put, are changes in their imaginations not reality.
I want to be entertained - that's the sole metric of why I will invest in a film or not (ok, some I will watch just to be in the know for some other continuity needed). So when Iger acknowledges that shortcoming and thinks it should be a priority, I will say "yes, its what I've been wanting" -- because I want films/projects that are entertaining. That's not a hard 1:1 connection to make.
Maybe I'm one of the few but it's been years since I set foot in a movie theatre. I wait until the movie comes out on Netflix and enjoy the movie in the comfort of my home.
Maverick catered to ME…and it was glorious.
It's not a movie, but Paramount also managed to knock it out of the park with Star Trek: Picard season 3, which found a way to do a modern take on Star Trek that still catered to those of us who grew up on Next Generation in the 80's and 90's. It really is possible.
One thing I think @_caleb is missing is that it's not just audiences PERCEIVING a social-political agenda in diverse content, but that Disney has explicitly stated that the content has a social-political agenda. It's not a phantom or a boogeyman or a YouTube conspiracy. Disney creators, talent, and executives have made public and private (leaked) statements for the reasons behind certain creative decisions.
Agreed. I mean, Disney has explicitly stated the agenda behind their creative decisions, and then the Disney CEO has explicitly stated that they made a mistake and need to focus on entertainment before messaging. And yet folks here act like this is some rightwing conspiracy garbage. These are the things Disney themselves has said.
I’m the same, with the exception of a few “must see” films I don’t go to theaters much anymore, but that’s a completely separate issue from making movies for a new audience (that I’d argue doesn’t exist).
Well now you tiptoed into my wheelhouse
