Brian
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Not by a long shot. I think there would need to be actual money where his mouth is in terms of content that follows that philosophy to start winning that audience back.
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News The Walt Disney Company Board of Directors Extends Robert A. Iger’s Contract as CEO Through 2026
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Vegas Disney Fan
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It’s nice to see them agree with what many of us believe though, as you said they need to follow up on it with some amazing stories to make it truly mean anything though.
Splash4eva
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Is anyone shocked this line of thinking was a disaster from the start… maybe just maybe companies will realize what makes money and what people actually wanna see and pay for as opposed to trying to shove some agenda down peoples throats. Look no further than Splash. I bet Iger would loveeeee to change that decision & reverse course there as well.
Splash4eva
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Nope. The fans they lost and those who have cut back are not fools that will buy this bs until
Actions are made…
Disgruntled Walt
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- In the Parks
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Where did you read that he said this?
Alex Sherman, CNBC reporter
Also, here:
Disney's Bob Iger Thinks Disney Movies Got Worse Under Other Disney Bob
Disney CEO Bob Iger—who over the summer described the demands of striking WGA and SAG-AFTRA workers as “not realistic,” then pulled back on that harsh statement by pushing to end the strikes quickly (as backed up by Warner Bros. Discovery’s David Zaslav)—has addressed some of his company’s most...
and across other various Disney fan sites that I won't link
Brian
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They're capable of it. I know they are. They did it with Moana just a few years ago; a "diverse" original story without pandering.
_caleb
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Were you boycotting?
Tom P.
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I think Iger hit the nail on the head. The problem is that they are not producing content that people find entertaining. Everyone has been so busy debating whether or not the content is "woke" that they've overlooked the fact that the content just isn't very good. People will overlook many things about movies and TV shows, including messaging they disagree with, but they will not overlook being bored by it. And all debates about DEI issues aside, I think Disney's real underlying issue is that they're just creatively bankrupt right now. They're just not making good stuff.
_caleb
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What isn't good about it?
_caleb
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What line of thinking?
Vegas Disney Fan
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”(Our) creatives have lost sight of what their job should be: entertain first, not messages."
_caleb
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To me, it seems like Iger is sort of just acknowledging what everyone knows: that a certain subset of the audience thinks Disney has some big agenda and it's hurting the brand. I don't see how that might indicate that he's changed his thinking on anything.
Joel
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He could have easily said that if that's what he meant, but he didn't. Unless he was misquoted, or there's extra context that wasn't provided, the statement is pretty clear. There's not much to interpret there.
Cognitive dissonance is painful, or so I hear.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
Just like Bob to blame others.
He knew exactly what was going on and what they were and still are doing.
Splash4eva
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I have cut back on Disney content for sure and my trip this year was cut in half. Outside of that Disney pretty much gets less than 10% of what i spent outside of the parks now.
Splash4eva
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Im not going into this and having another thread either locked or myself banned or put in timeout yet again. Im pretty sure you can figure it out or stay in denial. Either way personally it doesnt matter what you do or anyone else does. To each is their own
Lirael
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Not a surprising statement after the most recent results.
The Marvels and Wish numbers so far are bad.
With the Marvels at least they could have tried to chalk it down to franchise fatigue (which is certainly a part of the reason why it isnt generating much interest), but Wish has no such excuse
Wish is not only their bread and butter and cornerstone (princess movie) but it's supposed to be the big 100th anniversary movie, and box office results so far are flopping.
But I dont think its because of the Poc princess, at least not the way people think. DIsney has done movies with non white leads before and they were successful. The problem with Wish is that it's just... boring. You dont feel like they were really trying, as if they thought as long as they had a poc princess they didnt need to focus on anywhere else. The plot is mediocre at best, filled with plotholes at worst. The sets were boring, the backdrop wasnt stunning like it was in other movies. The villain was... controversial. In that I legit felt bad for him, which clearly wasnt the intended result lol And Asha... she has the same personality we've seen in other princesses before, and with looks that are too similar to recent characters too
And the songs. The songs were the biggest crime. There's not one catchy tune. Every other "princess" movie had at least one tune you couldnt forget for a while. Wish has nothing. The songs were forgettable. I cant imagine how bad they had to fudge it to fail at making a catchy song
So I dont think the ethnicity of the character is the issue... it's the total disregard for everything else that's affecting them
The Marvels and Wish numbers so far are bad.
With the Marvels at least they could have tried to chalk it down to franchise fatigue (which is certainly a part of the reason why it isnt generating much interest), but Wish has no such excuse
Wish is not only their bread and butter and cornerstone (princess movie) but it's supposed to be the big 100th anniversary movie, and box office results so far are flopping.
But I dont think its because of the Poc princess, at least not the way people think. DIsney has done movies with non white leads before and they were successful. The problem with Wish is that it's just... boring. You dont feel like they were really trying, as if they thought as long as they had a poc princess they didnt need to focus on anywhere else. The plot is mediocre at best, filled with plotholes at worst. The sets were boring, the backdrop wasnt stunning like it was in other movies. The villain was... controversial. In that I legit felt bad for him, which clearly wasnt the intended result lol And Asha... she has the same personality we've seen in other princesses before, and with looks that are too similar to recent characters too
And the songs. The songs were the biggest crime. There's not one catchy tune. Every other "princess" movie had at least one tune you couldnt forget for a while. Wish has nothing. The songs were forgettable. I cant imagine how bad they had to fudge it to fail at making a catchy song
So I dont think the ethnicity of the character is the issue... it's the total disregard for everything else that's affecting them
LSLS
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I'm not sure exclusively I blame him, but yes, I think that decision has had a big impact. Now, for me to put it all on him, I'd have to believe that Iger on his "Retired but still in charge" tour had no say in any of that (I don't), and that the push to get as much content on D+ as fast as possible to get those subscriber numbers at record pace and make D+ look like brilliant strategy was 100% concocted by Chapek and Iger had no say (take a guess my thoughts on that).
They may not be great, but something like Marvels is not bad (not great, but not bad, just ok to me), and opening weekend being that disastrous wasn't because it was bad. Plenty of bad movies have done significantly better than a lot of the Disney movies this year. To me there has to be something else going on. Or, put another way, if Disney puts out a film that is universally praised by everyone here and around, I still don't think it's going to do huge numbers. Look at Elemental. Even though it was pretty universally praised as a good film, it didn't get some giant box office number (just squeaking out profit).