The TV Show "The Middle" will be filming in Disney World the week of March 24th.

TubaGeek

God bless the "Ignore" button.
Because it's a television show, it's not real life. I wasn't upset when Sabrina the Teenage Witch turned into a Zebra on Kilimanjaro Safaris either.
Sabrina exists in a world of fantasy. Modern Family, despite some gags that rely on crazy levels of coincidence, is supposed to exist in the real world.
Either way, zebras on KS aren't actually teenage witches. The walk around characters, however,
really are people in costumes.
Your argument doesn't make sense.
 

RSoxNo1

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Sabrina exists in a world of fantasy. Modern Family, despite some gags that rely on crazy levels of coincidence, is supposed to exist in the real world.
Either way, zebras on KS aren't actually teenage witches. The walk around characters, however,
really are people in costumes.
Your argument doesn't make sense.
Just to recap, you're upset because an actor inside a Disney character talked while on a primetime tv show...
 

TubaGeek

God bless the "Ignore" button.
Just to recap, you're upset because an actor inside a Disney character talked while on a primetime tv show...
Absolutely. Disney makes a big deal about not ruining the magic, then they turn around and do it instead, but broadcast it on a popular TV show.
 

TubaGeek

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Ok, just making sure I understood you and your position correctly. I think my next post will be chose your own adventure style:
Option 1: Should I out crazy the crazy
Option 2: Should I continue to argue the crazy
Or you could find it weird that a company doesn't hold itself up to the standard that it sets upon its employees...
 

RSoxNo1

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Or you could find it weird that a company doesn't hold itself up to the standard that it sets upon its employees...
I know this is changing the argument, but do you find the Modern Family Talking Character Gate scenario more or less objectionable than the Modern Marvels and Destination America inaccuracies? Both Modern Marvels and the Animal Kingdom special still highlight a moving Yeti.
 

TubaGeek

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I know this is changing the argument, but do you find the Modern Family Talking Character Gate scenario more or less objectionable than the Modern Marvels and Destination America inaccuracies? Both Modern Marvels and the Animal Kingdom special still highlight a moving Yeti.
That certainly is changing the argument.
Both are certainly objectionable, but as someone who has professional experience with the character thing, I'd say that bugs me more. Though the yeti situation is also super weak.
If you don't care about it, that's fine, but why do you care so much that I care so much?
 
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prberk

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That certainly is changing the argument.
Both are certainly objectionable, but as someone who has professional experience with the character thing, I'd say that bugs me more. Though the yeti situation is also super weak.

While I think that it is important to keep the character secret for children overall, I think that it can be based on the show and plot. Anyone above age 10 at least will understand that there is a real person there, and I don't see many very young kids watching Modern Family, or at least if they do, they already understand sarcasm and fantasy enough to separate the two.

Way back in the early '70s, The Brady Bunch had an episode where they visited King's Island in Ohio, and it featured Greg Brady talking to a girl who took off her Scooby Doo (might have been Scrappy instead) head and talked to him. It did not scar me for life, because I knew there were people under there anyway. I would have been about 10 when I saw that show for the first time, in reruns after school, probably late '70s.

So, I don't think it should happen often, and I don't think it should be outright disrespectful; but done well, and in certain scripts, I think it can be OK.
 

TubaGeek

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While I think that it is important to keep the character secret for children overall, I think that it can be based on the show and plot. Anyone above age 10 at least will understand that there is a real person there, and I don't see many very young kids watching Modern Family, or at least if they do, they already understand sarcasm and fantasy enough to separate the two.

Way back in the early '70s, The Brady Bunch had an episode where they visited King's Island in Ohio, and it featured Greg Brady talking to a girl who took off her Scooby Doo (might have been Scrappy instead) head and talked to him. It did not scar me for life, because I knew there were people under there anyway. I would have been about 10 when I saw that show for the first time, in reruns after school, probably late '70s.

So, I don't think it should happen often, and I don't think it should be outright disrespectful; but done well, and in certain scripts, I think it can be OK.

I don't care if it's target audience is a senior living home: companies should be held to the same standard they set for their employees. Just because Kings Island did something in the 70's doesn't mean Disney should be able to get away with it now.
 

prberk

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I don't care if it's target audience is a senior living home: companies should be held to the same standard they set for their employees. Just because Kings Island did something in the 70's doesn't mean Disney should be able to get away with it now.

But, you see, the standard that they set was that it is all a show, and that everyone is a castmember with an onstage, and a backstage. But some scripts are a show in themselves, and their perfomances are like a play within a play, meaning that they are telling a story that takes place backstage or about people who play characters in another play.

In Saving Mr. Banks, we see Walt Disney smoking (very briefly, but reflecting reality) and we see backstage at the studio, behind the scenes of Mary Poppins. We also see Walt Disney getting soneone driven past the gates of Disneyland, to meet him there.

Walt himself often took us on tours behind the scenes of his latest project in his television show intros. In this one he shows us how the audio-animatronics of the Carousel of Progress work:

There are many, many examples of him doing that, even as far back as the '40s, when he made a feature film that showed a tour of the studios and the artists working.

So, your argument about The Walt Disney Company keeping to its own standards is limited really to the show at hand, as the founder himself demonstrates. He is the one that set the standards to which you are referring. They are based on what is appropriate for the show you are watching, which may be as a park guest, but it also may be a behind-the-scenes feature, or a movie about the cast members themselves... or about disrespectful people. I think the context matters, and how something is billed.
 

TubaGeek

God bless the "Ignore" button.
But, you see, the standard that they set was that it is all a show, and that everyone is a castmember with an onstage, and a backstage. But some scripts are a show in themselves, and their perfomances are like a play within a play, meaning that they are telling a story that takes place backstage or about people who play characters in another play.

In Saving Mr. Banks, we see Walt Disney smoking (very briefly, but reflecting reality) and we see backstage at the studio, behind the scenes of Mary Poppins. We also see Walt Disney getting soneone driven past the gates of Disneyland, to meet him there.

Walt himself often took us on tours behind the scenes of his latest project in his television show intros. In this one he shows us how the audio-animatronics of the Carousel of Progress work:

There are many, many examples of him doing that, even as far back as the '40s, when he made a feature film that showed a tour of the studios and the artists working.

So, your argument about The Walt Disney Company keeping to its own standards is limited really to the show at hand, as the founder himself demonstrates. He is the one that set the standards to which you are referring. They are based on what is appropriate for the show you are watching, which may be as a park guest, but it also may be a behind-the-scenes feature, or a movie about the cast members themselves... or about disrespectful people. I think the context matters, and how something is billed.


Shows and rides are meant to be shows and rides. Characters are meant to be characters, not people in suits.
 

stevehousse

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All the abc shows were great when they went to WDW! Boy meets world and family matters were probably my favorite and I can't wait to see what they do on the middle!

And are we really arguing about modern family? That episode was hysterical! No one that young that thinks the characters r real watch that show to begin with...what 7 year olds do u know what modern family? LOL
 

TubaGeek

God bless the "Ignore" button.
All the abc shows were great when they went to WDW! Boy meets world and family matters were probably my favorite and I can't wait to see what they do on the middle!

And are we really arguing about modern family? That episode was hysterical! No one that young that thinks the characters r real watch that show to begin with...what 7 year olds do u know what modern family? LOL
Clearly you're missing the point.
 

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