The Town Center construction

Stitchon

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From what I was able to find on some Oakley forum, it will be a "O Store (not a vault)" and will be opening in July.

Take that for what you will.

By "not a vault" they're referring to the Oakley Vault, which is their outlet store. So basically, just means it's a regular store like everyone would expect.
 

BD-Anaheim

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I'm warming to the town center -- the buildings are indeed beautiful and of a very high quality in design and implementation. As I've walked through the town center I've thought that a major improvement to this area could be to the vast open space -- minimize this by adding in some outdoor eateries or a marketplace. Right now, it seems very much like a "walk-thru" rather than a place to linger and spend time. The good news is that this can be achieved over time with future upgrades.
 

Mouse Detective

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Maybe I am reading too much into it because no one has mentioned it but the big wheel behind cirque is interesting. Could we see a wheel added in the future?
No. The wheel was originally in Disney Springs for Expo 1950 and was removed when it ended. That was the same year that much of the high-line collapsed when that heavy rail passenger train tried to go on tracks designed for light rail.
 

Obobru

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No. The wheel was originally in Disney Springs for Expo 1950 and was removed when it ended. That was the same year that much of the high-line collapsed when that heavy rail passenger train tried to go on tracks designed for light rail.

Ah so that hangover from the expo which is cirque will be demolished soon I guess since its so old and was only for an expo.
 

articos

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No. The wheel was originally in Disney Springs for Expo 1950 and was removed when it ended. That was the same year that much of the high-line collapsed when that heavy rail passenger train tried to go on tracks designed for light rail.
That is not part of the official backstory of the high line, but I like your version better. I'm guessing the Magical Train Accident of the Fifties is not part of the historical materials located in Guest Services. You just made me laugh. A lot.

You are correct the wheel is just part of the "historical" art, and there is nothing planned.
 

articos

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What are you expecting? It's simple entrance signage. It's not supposed to be something to be something you gather in front of to watch show and they certainly don't want it to distract drivers.
I expect something at least better than the most basic (cheap) fountain you can install. The signage is fine, but the fountain itself is just cheap and boring. Don't need or want a fountain show in this location, as it is just entry signage, but they could have done better. It's supposed to be Disney Springs, they could have done something more placemaking - do something architectural and spring featured with bubblers and a natural looking water feature, instead of something that looks more at home in front of a subdivision.
 

halltd

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I expect something at least better than the most basic (cheap) fountain you can install. The signage is fine, but the fountain itself is just cheap and boring.
That certainly doesn't look like a cheap fountain to me. I'm actually surprised there's a fountain there at all since it mostly flanks a busy intersection and pedestrians only see it from above. They easily could have just done a sign. But yeah, the thing is massive, it's brick, and there's a fountain in it. None of those things are cheap to build....or maintain.
 

articos

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That certainly doesn't look like a cheap fountain to me. I'm actually surprised there's a fountain there at all since it mostly flanks a busy intersection and pedestrians only see it from above. They easily could have just done a sign. But yeah, the thing is massive, it's brick, and there's a fountain in it. None of those things are cheap to build....or maintain.
Give it 3 years. It'll be a planter. ;) It would be funny if it weren't true.

I was expecting something like the Bellagio. ;)
I'm not expecting Bellagio, but I know what is being done out there, and I know the creative capabilities of the team working on this. Could have been better. ;)
 

articos

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Let me explain a bit further: this sign is something that any mall or subdivision architect could have drawn up in their sleep. They went with a water feature because it has Springs in the name, which is fine. But it doesn't add to the placemaking of the story, which is what Disney prides themselves on.

The sign is an entry gateway. It's the first thing that you see that guides you visibly and emotionally into where we want to take you. It's the book jacket description designed to start to reel you in. This fountain is just a brick structure sign, and it's something you see a variation of every day in your normal life. It has no connection to the fictional history of Disney Springs. It has no connection to the story or the emotions. That's what I expect from WDI. And this isn't complicated to do. A water feature that looks like a natural spring with the signage mounted, or something that has the landscape of the springs in miniature to set the stage of what you're about to see inside. Or something that includes a historical aspect to DS: the tools of the early settlers or the rudimentary waterworks of the early village that settled around the spring. All of these could be incorporated into a much more architecturally striking opening statement that would have cost not much more than what the brick structure cost, but says a lot more.
 

Wisconsin

Active Member
Can someone post the "historical backstory" to DS? Was there last week and was underwhelmed. Sorry, but it's an outdoor mall..Maybe future improvements?! Parking is way better though...
 

Next Big Thing

Well-Known Member
Let me explain a bit further: this sign is something that any mall or subdivision architect could have drawn up in their sleep. They went with a water feature because it has Springs in the name, which is fine. But it doesn't add to the placemaking of the story, which is what Disney prides themselves on.

The sign is an entry gateway. It's the first thing that you see that guides you visibly and emotionally into where we want to take you. It's the book jacket description designed to start to reel you in. This fountain is just a brick structure sign, and it's something you see a variation of every day in your normal life. It has no connection to the fictional history of Disney Springs. It has no connection to the story or the emotions. That's what I expect from WDI. And this isn't complicated to do. A water feature that looks like a natural spring with the signage mounted, or something that has the landscape of the springs in miniature to set the stage of what you're about to see inside. Or something that includes a historical aspect to DS: the tools of the early settlers or the rudimentary waterworks of the early village that settled around the spring. All of these could be incorporated into a much more architecturally striking opening statement that would have cost not much more than what the brick structure cost, but says a lot more.
It's an entrance sign to a mall that people pass right on by. No one is going to actually get a proper view of this unless from the overhead bridge. It's really not a big deal.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Can someone post the "historical backstory" to DS? Was there last week and was underwhelmed. Sorry, but it's an outdoor mall..Maybe future improvements?! Parking is way better though...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...s-downtown-disney-walt-disney-world/85208362/

"According to the narrative, a cattle rancher discovered the water source in the mid-1800s and settled there. The springs, which Hoffman's team has carefully crafted, include cypress trees and palmettos lining its banks. Lights flickering in the trees at night represent fireflies. Also in the evening hours, floating lanterns glow, and colorful boils of water illuminate the springs.

The Town Center that grew around the springs features architecture reminiscent of the 1920s. There are stucco facades, terra cotta tile roofs, coral stone, lovely fountains, and other Mediterranean touches typical of the era. Remnants of the old town remain. Ancient machinery sits unused next to a weathered sign, which indicates that the apparatus was used for a spring water ice works operation. The original settler's cabin now serves as the site of D-Luxe Burger, Disney's take on the gourmet burger "
 

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