The Subs are coming back! Let's party!

FigmentJedi

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
From MiceAge:
Fish are our Friends
Back on the subject of that rather infamous Submarine Lagoon, the rumored plans we'd told you about last year to dust off that old attraction are once again winding their way through the approval process.


In a story that has often been more complex than even Superstar Limo's fate, a Finding Nemo overlay for the old Submarine attraction is back again on a front burner. Using the Finding Nemo characters and the marketable tagline "The Subs Are Back, Let's Party!" Tony Baxter has been leading the charge in Imagineering (WDI) to return the fleet to service.

But it's not only been the funding from tightfisted Burbank executives that have been the problem, as both TDA and WDI have had to overcome the reality of dealing with the Air Quality Management District (AQMD) who aren't very enthusiastic about those underwater vehicles. Yep, those same folks that were responsible for the sudden mothballing of the Believe fireworks show have also been getting in the way of the Submarine's planned reopening.

The diesel engines that power the eight large vehicles are the culprits, and it will take a great deal of work to make whatever propulsion system that replaces the original engines compliant with the AQMD's rules regarding pollution output by private businesses. Updating the Subs to cleaner burning engines is not an insurmountable obstacle (in the past as a test one was converted to natural gas if I remember correctly), but it is one that has raised the price of the Submarine project much higher than originally estimated and has caused some of the delays.
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
Tahu said:
From MiceAge:
Fish are our Friends
Back on the subject of that rather infamous Submarine Lagoon, the rumored plans we'd told you about last year to dust off that old attraction are once again winding their way through the approval process.


In a story that has often been more complex than even Superstar Limo's fate, a Finding Nemo overlay for the old Submarine attraction is back again on a front burner. Using the Finding Nemo characters and the marketable tagline "The Subs Are Back, Let's Party!" Tony Baxter has been leading the charge in Imagineering (WDI) to return the fleet to service.

But it's not only been the funding from tightfisted Burbank executives that have been the problem, as both TDA and WDI have had to overcome the reality of dealing with the Air Quality Management District (AQMD) who aren't very enthusiastic about those underwater vehicles. Yep, those same folks that were responsible for the sudden mothballing of the Believe fireworks show have also been getting in the way of the Submarine's planned reopening.

The diesel engines that power the eight large vehicles are the culprits, and it will take a great deal of work to make whatever propulsion system that replaces the original engines compliant with the AQMD's rules regarding pollution output by private businesses. Updating the Subs to cleaner burning engines is not an insurmountable obstacle (in the past as a test one was converted to natural gas if I remember correctly), but it is one that has raised the price of the Submarine project much higher than originally estimated and has caused some of the delays.

HI ALL! I'm still in WDW, but I am on a lap top and when I saw the title I knew I HAD to read it. I'm just wondering, is this a fact that the Subs are coming back? I don't want to party onlyyo find that thisis just a rumor. If so, I"M PARTYING!!!!!!!!!!
 

DarkMeasures

New Member
Good plan to fix Tommorowland even if it is not an original attraction. The building under Autopia can only serve the subs and that is it. Maybe though Disney should use Fuel Cell subs so there is some tommorow in the subs even though that is no long what tommorowland is about.
 

CalDisney

New Member
Not a Rumor!!!

I have a Very Good Customer who Actually works on the Rides Keeping most of them safe, He said the Subs will be back and People Mover will have a New kind of Transportation on its Tracks.
I asked him if Space Mountain will have a Loop and He said No... It`s Not original So It will be as it was in 1977.
Hey!! how about Nuke Powered Subs??? LOL
 

DarkMeasures

New Member
CalDisney said:
I have a Very Good Customer who Actually works on the Rides Keeping most of them safe, He said the Subs will be back and People Mover will have a New kind of Transportation on its Tracks.


You realize that they would have to competly rebuild the peoplemover tracks due to the stress and wear caused by Rocket Rodds?
 

Figment1986

Well-Known Member
where their is a will.... their is a way.... if only Disney land get's it's TL i mean FL subs backfor a reason.... (Are the subs close enough to Fantasy Land for that????)

I hope they get this done.... too bad it would be after i go in July....
 

cherrynegra

Well-Known Member
Well, let's say that the subs do come back, I'm interested to know if they'll stick with the original ride effects or if they'll update it with a Nemo theme as has often been rumored.
 

stranger

New Member
cherrynegra said:
Well, let's say that the subs do come back, I'm interested to know if they'll stick with the original ride effects or if they'll update it with a Nemo theme as has often been rumored.

I'll bet it will be themed after Finding Nemo seeing how attractions or entertainment is themed after movies *cough* Calling all Space Scouts...Buzz Lightyear Adventure.
I'm still waiting for our promised Little Mermaid Sub ride. :hammer:
 

DarkMeasures

New Member
cherrynegra said:
Well, let's say that the subs do come back, I'm interested to know if they'll stick with the original ride effects or if they'll update it with a Nemo theme as has often been rumored.

It would be very sad if they kept the original effects. That technology is decades old.
 

Figment1986

Well-Known Member
that would make no sence... why have the subs open in november 05 when Space Mt was projected for that month.... wouldn't they want to stagger openings.. or reopenings... (Unless they heard my plea and are pushing for Space Mt to open in july.... before the 17th)
 

stranger

New Member
Figment1986 said:
that would make no sence... why have the subs open in november 05 when Space Mt was projected for that month.... wouldn't they want to stagger openings.. or reopenings... (Unless they heard my plea and are pushing for Space Mt to open in july.... before the 17th)

I find it odd that November of next year is the projected date of opening seeing that nothing is going on in the lagoon. Remember it is just a rumor.
 

DarkMeasures

New Member
stranger said:
I find it odd that November of next year is the projected date of opening seeing that nothing is going on in the lagoon. Remember it is just a rumor.

Well considering how the ride is, it wouldn't be that hard. The sets are built. Just replace the figures, get new engines/fix up subs and you have Finding Nemo.
 

Disneyland1970

New Member
I apologize if this has been covered before,Have the DL subs been removed or are they being stored in the main building? The WDW subs are rusting away in some field :mad:

Thanks!
 

NemoRocks78

Seized
I apologize if this has been covered before,Have the DL subs been removed or are they being stored in the main building?

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe they are still in the building.

Here's some interesting info from MousePlanet......

A usually reliable source tells us that the rumored Finding Nemo attraction slated for the Submarine Lagoon has been given the green light—again. Riders will board a submarine to take an “educational” trip among the reefs to learn about the fish and flora of the ocean.

Of course, something will go “terribly awry,” with passengers enlisted to help Dory save the day. Our source says that work can begin as early as this month, with the ride scheduled to open in November 2005—the same time that Space Mountain reopens. We'll be waiting to see if this reoprt pans out, or, if like so many rumors about the Submarine Lagoon, it's just another fish tale.
 

ogryn

Well-Known Member
Fantasyland, Adventureland, Toontown, Frontierland, Critter Country, Main St USA, and our newest attraction... PIXAR-land. Come ride Buzz-Lightyear, Finding Nemo, Cars Autopia, and coming soon: A Bug's Life Simulator and The Incredibles Mountain.
 

cherrynegra

Well-Known Member
Seems there's been an update about the subs over at mouseplanet and they're slated to open in November 2005. That's if the rumors are true.

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Red light, green light

A usually reliable source tells us that the rumored Finding Nemo attraction slated for the Submarine Lagoon has been given the green light—again. Riders will board a submarine to take an “educational” trip among the reefs to learn about the fish and flora of the ocean.

Of course, something will go “terribly awry,” with passengers enlisted to help Dory save the day. Our source says that work can begin as early as this month, with the ride scheduled to open in November 2005—the same time that Space Mountain reopens. We'll be waiting to see if this reoprt pans out, or, if like so many rumors about the Submarine Lagoon, it's just another fish tale.
 

DarkMeasures

New Member
ogryn said:
Fantasyland, Adventureland, Toontown, Frontierland, Critter Country, Main St USA, and our newest attraction... PIXAR-land. Come ride Buzz-Lightyear, Finding Nemo, Cars Autopia, and coming soon: A Bug's Life Simulator and The Incredibles Mountain.


Yeah.... that is what will most likely happen. Wasn't there a Toy Story funhouse in tommorowland?
 

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