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The Sorcerer's Apprentice, Season 7: Fantasmic Journeys [CONCLUDED!]
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Orange Cat
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This urination conversation is making me uncomfortable
tcool123
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Funnily enough I myself just peed before posting this prior message
That’s why we only talk urination in moderation.
Chaos Cat
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AGREED. THAT'S WHY Y'ALL NEED MORE LEAD IN YOUR SYSTEM!
I’m happy for youFunnily enough I myself just peed before posting this prior message
This is what happens when yall bully the furries.AGREED. THAT'S WHY Y'ALL NEED MORE LEAD IN YOUR SYSTEM!
tcool123
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Chaos Cat
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WHAT... I... JUST DIE ALREAY!So I should eat more pencils? Okay!
Disney Dad 3000
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JokersWild
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Team Maguire just finishing up our 97th page. We've made a ton of progress. We've just decided what theme we should go with.
montydysquith-navarro
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I literally went to sleep for a good couple of hours (not saying how long). What on Earth has happened here?
EDIT: I live on the other side of the world, just so everyone's in the know. It's already Easter Sunday morning here!
EDIT: I live on the other side of the world, just so everyone's in the know. It's already Easter Sunday morning here!
Chaos Cat
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Orange Cat
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That’s a perfect recap
PerGron
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Sorry to get these out so late, I got pulled away for much of the day.
PerGron's Reviews
Alright, so I'll be very honest; when I saw this idea pitched, I was very very nervous. I didn't think this concept was going to mesh very well with a Disney park or 1986, so I was biting my nails watching it be developed. However, at the end of the day, when all was said and done, I fell in love with your concept. The entire thing ended up selling me and while this race was probably the tightest one I've seen thus far, it's still insane how amazing this project came out! You seriously exceeded my expectations here.
The backstory here, directly tying it into Motu Wairua and Adventure Atoll is great and I loved the continuing theme and storyline between the two lands, I think that is super awesome. That, tied into the original story of the mutated world, it was all just too perfect and fit so thematically well.
Attack of the Mutant Spider
PerGron's Reviews
Alright, so I'll be very honest; when I saw this idea pitched, I was very very nervous. I didn't think this concept was going to mesh very well with a Disney park or 1986, so I was biting my nails watching it be developed. However, at the end of the day, when all was said and done, I fell in love with your concept. The entire thing ended up selling me and while this race was probably the tightest one I've seen thus far, it's still insane how amazing this project came out! You seriously exceeded my expectations here.
The backstory here, directly tying it into Motu Wairua and Adventure Atoll is great and I loved the continuing theme and storyline between the two lands, I think that is super awesome. That, tied into the original story of the mutated world, it was all just too perfect and fit so thematically well.
Attack of the Mutant Spider
- I really like the campy nature of this attraction's title. It makes it feel all the more cheesy to fit in with giant spiders. The naming convention across this whole land is great, so don't expect this to be the last time I bring it up.
- I like the idea of focusing on the unknown for this attraction and not having an elaborate story. As someone who loves writing backstories, it's honestly kind of refreshing to see that change, especially in a park that is so heavily full of them.
- The attraction is thrilling, frightening, and simple. I can imagine being terrified of this as a kid, but also adoring it as an adult, much like The Great Movie Ride (at least for me). Great job!
Journey into Mutant Mountain
- So this was probably the weakest part of your project in complete honesty. It was a little bit disappointing in that way because it just felt like it should've been way grander. The detail was very limited and there wasn't a lot of focus on the mutants. I don't know, I was honestly disappointed clicking on this one.
- That said, the concept is amazing. A log flume through a cave with mutant animals, that's something I absolutely would love to be able to ride on.
The Unauthorized Outer Lands Exploration
- Now THIS is what I'm talking about!
- A walkthrough the restricted area with giant animatronic mutants and whatnot is such an amazing idea and also plays as a great sister attraction to the more peaceful walking trails at Adventure Atoll.
- Why make the rattlesnake area stink though? While it may make sense thematically, I don't imagine guests would be very happy walking through an area that makes them want to puke. Plus, I pity the cast members that have to clean all the vomit that'll inevitably happen here.
- Other than that though, the snakes, spiders, carnivorous plants, and swamp monster segments all sound absolutely phenomenal. This is A1 imagineering here and I'm here for it.
Robots Revue
- I like a good animatronic revue, and the threat of the robots absolutely murdering the guests is an enticing one. I can imagine the funny jokes and insanity that'll come from this attraction, and I totally appreciate it for that reason.
- Also @Homemade Imagineering you blew me away with this animatronic. I know about as much about robots as most of you know about Myrmecophaga tridactyla, so seeing something like this is totally mind blowing.
- Having Penn and Teller voice Penn and Teller robots is great.
- Overall, I think a Vegas-style revue but starring murderous robots is a cute and fun idea for a post-apocalyptic Frontierland.
Sky Tours
- I get the purpose of this attraction, but when Disneyland Aeronautics is already making their way around the parks, why not expand the line to include what you guys wanted to add here? No shame, but I do feel this is a bit redundant, especially where there's no story or gimmic to it and it's just a bucket sky ride.
Spin for Luck
- This is a simple concept that fits the Vegas motif so absolutely well.
- I've never seen an attraction like this either, and it's terrifying. However, I think this would add a neat thrill element to a flat ride that otherwise wouldn't be super thrilling. Great job here!
The Shuffler
- It's a scrambler.
Play & Win Arcade
- You guys have actual slot machines. You guys created a casino in a Disney park. You guys are insane.
- This arcade seems like a lot of fun and I like the idea of having more retro-style games as the electricity doesn't work because of the radiation, that's a nice touch.
- I also really appreciate the Shooting Arcade segments as that's a part of Disney World I never really have done but have always liked the presence of it.
Dining
- I really like the theme and backstory of all of these dining options. Initially, the Italian and Seafood restaurant was a bit weird, but reading about how it is basically a museum and is an upscale dining place in a world becoming normal again, I really do like the concept.
- The Tex Mex restaurant and the
Golden CorrallGolden Plate also fit really well and make total sense here. - My favorite thing, however, is The Cure. I've always thought a snake oil salesman would make a great location for a drink stand, and y'all did it.
Retail
- Not to end this on an anticlimactic note, but it's retail. Everything fits, I like the theme, but there's not a ton to say about it.
In the end, this land had such an amazing theme, such an amazing backstory, and some really solid attractions. I think you guys really deserved the win here and I'm glad my fellow judges agreed. This is a land that honestly is the one I'd be happiest to see at the 1986 park. Great job!
One Manarchy
Omg thank you so much!!! I’m honestly thrilled to hear that our project went from something you were skeptical of to something you really enjoyed!
About the nasty scent in the one area of the snake section; throughout the entire thing I was just trying to push the boundaries as much as possible. I wanted the entire thing to be as unsettling and frightening and to feel as real as possible. But hopefully not vomit inducing! If we got vomit we’d have to change some things!
Thanks again for the review and I’m so glad you liked our project so much!
JokersWild
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Team Space - Yukon Valley
Your map is fantastic. The layout is great and everything looks to be where it should be. Backstory is super simple, and mostly effective. You don’t always need a book of a backstory for land (@PerGron lol) as much as I appreciate them more often than not. I do kind of wish that a little care was taken into describing the actual aesthetics of the land, especially an entrance weenie. There’s definitely a ton that could be done with what you have that I would have loved to have heard about what the land looks like together when entering from a different land. Maybe an old, wood-based oil rig with a sign for the land on it or painted down its side? The trash cans are FINE.
Quick note that I’m just now noticing - I don’t think that you guys solidified a time period? Your backstory mentions 1899, but there’s a ton of modern technology that it’s a bit confusing Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m going to review this as if it’s set in the modern era as I think most of the attractions are?
Onto the attractions, you guys have a lot to offer here. At first glance I was a bit worried that the land was a bit top-heavy with E/D Tickets, but I think that you struck a pretty fair balance. I think that Ice Mountain Rapids is a super unique take on a Splash Mountain attraction, and I actually really love that it’s a river rapids. You don’t see too many river rapids dark rides, so I really appreciate the effort to do something a bit different with the medium. The actual ride is a ton of fun. I love the gags, and I love the progression of the story. However, I think that this attraction is at odds with the rest of the land. The rest of the land is pretty realistic, and the backstory specifically mentions how the settlers are at odds with the animals. And then we board a river raft where the animals are having a grand old time in their mountain. Are the settlers eating these poor anthropomorphic animals? Is there a secret war ongoing in the background that guests can suss out through close observation and context clues? I’m worried about these happy-go-lucky animals getting a terrible glimpse at the realities of war. In the end, I REALLY love the ride - I’m just worried about it fitting in with the rest of the land.
Judder Refinery is another fantastic attraction, and really continues the theme of Blue Sky Disneyland of creating pretty unique versions of beloved attractions - this being an obvious analogue to Tower of Terror. While I think that the attraction might have been more effective if it was presented as an abandoned overgrown facility in 1899 with no guides or context, I really love the concept, and I think that it’s a great way to do ToT without getting stuck with another haunted hotel theme. Beaumont’s Dancing Sleds is a really fun flatride to round out the land, and I love the care that went into the backstory. The Rivers of the North is another natural choice for your land (and I love the ship name
), though I would have liked to see one or two more show scenes since guests aren’t passing as many attractions as they would be on the Rivers of America. The Aeronautics Station is a nice touch as well, though I would have liked to see a sentence or two describing it. Onto entertainment and dining/ shopping. The Paul Bunyan Lumberjack Show is a perfect fit for this land, and I really love its inclusion. This makes perfect sense, and it reminds me of some of the shows you’d see in the Canada Pavilion, or even shows that I’d see that my local parks growing up. Timber Cabinn and Cafe has a really clever setup and some great food. I’m sure there are some, but I really can’t think of any theme park restaurants that serve breakfast all day, and I am absolutely here for it. You also captured the log cabin aesthetic really well. I was initially iffy on your land seemingly including two restaurants until I actually read it and saw that the Wandering Hearts Saloon is more show than eatery, which begs the question “why is this is the dining section of the site?” Nitpicks aside, this was really great, and I’m very happy to see you guys resurrect the saloon show concept for a Disney park. The Yukon Catchery is, again, really fantastic. I love the menu and the theming, so this is another restaurant you guys knocked out of the park. As is tradition, I don’t have a ton to say about shopping, but I really appreciate it and everything seemed to fit very well. I especially love the focus on specialty shops.
All in all, this was a really great project. However, much like last project, I think that there were a few thematic inconsistencies that brought it down a bit as a whole.
Team Reality - Rebirth: The New Frontier
First off, I really appreciate the detail that went into your backstory. It wasn’t necessary, and I wouldn’t be surprised if at least one of the other judges are less keen on it than I am, but I love how integral it is to your land as a whole. Everything feels like it was designed and included with this backstory in mind, and it really sets everything over the edge for me. Also Fallout. I like Fallout. I like Fallout a lot.
Before I get into the attractions properly, I just wanted to mention their names. I know you guys had a bit of a back and forth about figuring out how to differentiate the names of Attack of the Mutant Spiders and Escape from Mutant Mountain, but I think that you still might not have gone far enough since both still include “mutant.” They’re still pretty different, but they’re right on the edge of being too close to each other. Totally inconsequential for me, a smart child with the reading comprehension of a 4th grader, but I could see problems arising from guests asking CMs where "that mutant ride" is.
Attack of the Mutant Spider is a ton of fun. I love the focus on the unique creatures, and I really enjoy that you’ve given them a chance to shine here. While the actual description is pretty short, I think that you set the unnerving tone very well. Journey Into Mutant Mountain is really great. I love the tone, and progression of the attraction. While I again wish that there was more detail, I think that the concept acts as really nice thesis for the ideas presented in your land. However, I think that your best attraction is Unauthorized Outer Lands Exploration. I think that the core concept is super unique for a Disney park. I love the setup, the creature design, and most everything else really. If I had one complaint it’s that I think it should be properly noted on the map. I totally appreciate the faux secrecy of the attraction, but it really feels like something that Disney would try for like a month and quickly abandon when guests start complaining that the park maps have a giant restricted area on them.
Robots Revue is a lot of fun and really reminds me of Robots by Flight of the Conchords. All of the smaller attractions are also great. I really appreciate how well they fit into the casino theming, and they really round out the land. The only attraction that I really have a problem with is Sky Tours. The park already has a skyway that goes around the entire park so this ride is a bit redundant when you could have very easily expanded the balloons to wind through your land and act as a sort of Grand Canyon/ Primeval World-type experience.
At first glance I didn’t think your restaurants would fit, but I think that they worked well for the most part. They all fit for the most part, and the menus all sound delicious. If I had any critique it’s that I wish you guys would have leaned in a bit more heavily into the post apocalypse. It’s kind of weird to me walking through a bombed out Las Vegas to have a nice Italian meal. I’m not sure what else you could have done with it - there was just a bit of thematic whiplash for me. Stores are great and I really love how they compliment each other.
All in all, this is a really fantastic final effort. Everything came together exceptionally well. While I had a few issues with some of the choices you guys made, most of them were nitpicks and were pretty inconsequential to the project as a whole. Really amazing job, guys, and a well-deserved win.
Team Time - Frigid Frontier
Really nice theme. Very unique, and I’m happy to see more frigid climates used in Frontierland. At a first glance I really love what you have. I’m so happy that we finally have a complete park map. The land art is really great and definitely helps me visualize it. Frigid Frontier has a pretty cool vibe. While your land is pretty similar to Team Space’s Yukon Territory, I think that you guys were a bit more successful, especially in terms of thematic consistency. Though there didn’t seem to be any backstory outside of a time period mentioned, I’m glad that you were able to stick to it fully.
Klondike River Expedition is a ton of fun. I love the ride system you chose. The actual attraction is a really great update on the Western River Expedition concept, and I really love the pacing. Another knockout dark ride from @DashHaber. Frigid Frontier Express is really great as well. I appreciate the tie-in to Skagway, and I like that you finally gave the park a train. Your show scenes are all very fitting, and the whole experience seems like a lot of fun. This definitely reminds me of the train at Knotts or Tokyo Disneyland. Critter Folk Follies might be a bit derivative, but it was still a lot of fun. I love your song choices, and I appreciate the variety of genre in comparison to Country Bear Jamboree. Panning for Gold I wanted to mention mainly because I love that you actually gave the attraction a point through a prize system. It definitely gives guests more of a reason to not only pay for the attraction, but to come back and try again. AK Corral is a great classic Frontierland experience and I really love its inclusion. The Shootin’ Gallery and Forgotten Miner’s Cemetery round out the land really well and add a really nice touch of magic.
Love the Two Cent Saloon. I’m sure it’s intentional, but I was surprised how much it felt like Knott’s saloon when I was expecting something more akin to the Golden Horseshoe. Your menu is great, and I love the focus on local cuisine. Moose Hill Cabin is really great as well, though you’ve lost me on the muktuk, mainly since whale fishing is banned in a lot of countries. I’d love to try it, but ethically and legally I’m iffy. Retail is fine. I don’t have a ton to say, but they’re solid and fitting. Your entertainment really helps round out the land as well.
For me at least, this was an extremely close second. I really love everything that you guys have here. It’s like a little corner of Knott’s at a Disney park, and I love it. Great job!