I'm fully aware that it is missing details, but it gives a good overview on the Silver Pass only, which is what was asked... not the maingate or gold passes, nor the comp and holiday celebration passes.
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The Silver Pass
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Madison
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What, exactly, is "The Disney Contract"?
I'm having a hard time imagining that The Walt Disney Company is so stupid as to genuinely prohibit its overworked, underpaid employees from, at the very least, talking up some of the nicer perks that come with their employment.
General confidentiality agreements that any major company makes their employees sign.
It is.... thickheaded too. Too set in its ways, in need of change.
Kinda like how stand up comedian Patton Oswalt joked about Paas (the easter egg company)
MyNameisStitch
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The NDA is not quote "Magical". It is a standard NDA just like you would sign at any other company. I remember signing it myself and it wasn't anything special. But they will hold you to it. I have a friend who violated the NDA and he got termed.
Honestly I don't even consider the NDA when I hold my tounge on certain discussions. For me (and many other CM's), protecting the magic is a personal responsibility. It is a part of the traditions we uphold everyday that we work for the Walt Disney Company. We feel a certain responsibility to Walt and the company he created. I don't work for WDW anymore and I still feel the same responsibility to protect the magic.
Think about it, Would Walt ever discuss whether or not Mickey has a personal cooling system? No, He would have said "Mickey's a Mouse. Have you ever seen a mouse with a cooling system?"
shoppingnut
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correct... Disney's are more specific, and the corporate culture within TWDC is generally very quiet about benefits/compensation discussions to the outside world.
Madison
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It's too bad that my hiring paperwork from Disney is two thousand miles away. I wouldn't mind looking through it again. Admittedly, though I was hired, I never worked for the company and so maybe the corporate culture is stricter than even I recall -- which is what turned me off from working for them in the first place -- but I've not before nor since had a job that prohibited me from talking, at the very least, about the benefits of the position.
In fact, wasn't Disneyland specifically addressing the benefits of employment there as its "Disney Difference" program? It seems counterintuitive that a company that is having such trouble finding, nevermind keeping, a workforce would simultaneously advertise benefits like free admission while prohibiting those in its employ from doing the same.
I don't mean to address anyone specifically, by the way, but I'm just trying to imagine how it is that the Company can, in any genuine sense, entrust proprietary knowledge to its front line employees. I understand the desire to preserve some of what remains of the veil that made people consider for even a moment that Walt Disney World exists to do something besides make money, but I don't see how in purpose or in practice it's useful to pretend as if there's some reason to work for the company as a Cast Member beyond personal enjoyment.
CrashNet
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joshwill
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AEfx
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I always find it humorous when people talk about NDA's they have signed, when most NDA's preclude you from even REVEALING the fact that you've signed one. NDA's mean you aren't to disclose anything regaring the agreement; I've actually seen Disney's (at least Disney's of a couple of years ago) and you are not to reveal any details about it, period.
I stick to my original premise that people saying, "I know...but can't tell you!" are just doing so because it makes them feel "cool" on a Disney message board. If you truly respected the NDA, you simply would not post at all, instead of posting, "Sorry, Magical secret I can't reveal because of NDA!"
All that said, there is nothing revealing any "magic" about this...are we supposed to assume that CM's don't have benefits, lives, homes, cars, go to the bathroom? Or that they just appear in the park everyday to serve us?
I'm all for Magic, but saying that discussing an employee perk has anything to do with it is a big strech, and I still think it's posturing because people just love to say "I can't tell you, but I know!"
AEfx
I stick to my original premise that people saying, "I know...but can't tell you!" are just doing so because it makes them feel "cool" on a Disney message board. If you truly respected the NDA, you simply would not post at all, instead of posting, "Sorry, Magical secret I can't reveal because of NDA!"
All that said, there is nothing revealing any "magic" about this...are we supposed to assume that CM's don't have benefits, lives, homes, cars, go to the bathroom? Or that they just appear in the park everyday to serve us?
I'm all for Magic, but saying that discussing an employee perk has anything to do with it is a big strech, and I still think it's posturing because people just love to say "I can't tell you, but I know!"
AEfx
Couldn't have said it better myself AEfx. I was hoping for some information when I asked the question, not a bunch of self-righteous CM's who feel the need to post the fact that they know something that we're not allowed to know. To those folks, please refrain from posting unless you're going to answer the question, Thanks!
CrashNet
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To be honest, I have no stake in this, and don't think its a "cool" factor because I know something that I am not supposed to talk about. I know lots of things I'm not supposed to talk about. Everyone does. Doesn't make you special.
I'm doing what DisneyGuyJake put well: preserving the magic. NDAs are exactly what you said: you don't discuss anything in them. It is better to let the original poster know that we can't provide the information than to leave them completely in the dark.
I'm doing what DisneyGuyJake put well: preserving the magic. NDAs are exactly what you said: you don't discuss anything in them. It is better to let the original poster know that we can't provide the information than to leave them completely in the dark.
AEfx
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You're missing the point.
It's against the NDA to reveal you have signed the NDA at all. By replying to this thread, at all, and revealing that in fact you have signed an NDA with Disney, you have violated that NDA.
The reason for this is because by confirming that you have the information you are verifying it's existance and therefore violating confidentiality by revealing information.
You have no responsibility here, and in fact, are going against the NDA, by letting the OP know you "can't help them". This is not guest services. You (and I'm granting you that you are telling the truth that you work at WDW, I'm assuming you are in the CP, though I may be wrong) are an employee talking about your job, and voluntarily confirming or denying that you are in posession of any information. You have no responsibility here, visitor or not.
There is no reason for you to post "I know but can't tell, sorry, NDA!" unless violating your NDA is worth telling people about it. If you TRULY followed the NDA, you would not reply at all by invoking your professional capacity. It was just unnecesary posturing.
Of course, with a subject like this, it's completely a moot point, as the information is freely available elsewhere enough to satisfy the OP's curiousity. You can keep telling yourself you posted to "preserve the magic", but if you really thought about it clearly you'd see that what you did was the opposite, while violating your NDA by confirming that information does exist but you are not at liberty to share it.
Ask your supervisor. :wave:
AEfx
coastermaster83
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I remember my first day at my current job that Ive been at for about a year. The owner told me we had a NDA and a No compete contract that I had to sign but then he goes on to tell me I'm not an employee of his company I'm a Independent Contractor for his company and he never made me sign the darn thing. I remember looking at him like you can't have your cake and eat it too, either I work for you or I work for myself and you contract with me. Whats also funny is I have a set schedule for every week of 9-2 M,W,F so I should be a W2 employee but he's cheating the government and saying I'm not and filing me as a 1099 independent contractor. My whole point is the guy's that are saying you can't say anything about the NDA are right. If the company has one and you sign it you shouldn't speak about it, Lest you be wanting ye ol Pink Mousetrap to go snap on your neck.
MyNameisStitch
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I'm just going to say this and then I will leave the thread...
You specifically asked for CM's to answer your question. I will now leave your thread with no further comments. Have a magical day :wave:
CrashNet
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Very true. The question has been answered, so I guess we're done here. If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. As CMs we enjoy helping wherever we can.
AEfx
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Very true. The question has been answered, so I guess we're done here. If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. As CMs we enjoy helping wherever we can.
And apparently enjoy breaking your NDA as well.
What the OP asked does not matter, what matters is that you replied. Do you always do what people ask even when you've signed a legal document stating otherwise?
Everyone who has posted saying they signed an NDA, or even mentioning the Silver Pass (which indirectly verifies it's existance) and the accuracy or inaccuracy of information regarding it on the web is TECHNICALLY against this NDA that you supposedly fear.
The posts by a couple of CM's in this thread are so ironic it hurts...and it would be better if you don't feel you can answer a question to simply not reply. A few of you have acted like you have this great, holy responsibility to the magic (one of you went so far as to say, "I would rather not have that info on the world wide web...") yet you freely violated the NDA here by making useless posts to let us know you didn't want to share.
So keep replying, please - perhaps one of your supervisors will see it and then they can correct the smug, self-righteous nature that even made you feel you needed to reply in the first place.
At the very least, I hope you contact your supervisors to review your NDA, as you obviously do not understand the legal document you signed, and that is very dangerous.
You all have a magical day too. :wave:
AEfx
JimboJones123
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The folks that put together the Unofficial guide also have a book usually in the travel section of the bookstore called "Inside Disney", I think. This has a whole chapter on working for the mouse. It includes information on the Silver and Gold passes and other "perks". I believe the Gold pass actually gets you something like 15 or 25 guest or somehting awesome like that. Talk about family reunion time. But this is a vere "exclusive" perk only for "upper" mgmt, like VPs and whatnot. It's a fun read though. About 100-120 pages or something.
AEfx
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