Crazydisneyfanluke
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Would paradise pier fit in the BLT and LMA area? 
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The Park Formerly Known as Disney's Hollywood Studios? Yep ...
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prberk
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Kind of sounds interesting, if done well. Never thought about it. And such a thing could either work at DHS or on Main Street, USA, connected to the Main Street Cinema (perhaps using the old "Walt Disney Story" space behind the Exhibition Hall).
FutureWorld1982
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Would paradise pier fit in the BLT and LMA area?
Don't give them these kinds of ideas!!
FigmentJedi
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You wanna know how Scrooge made his fortune? Adventuring all over the world by land and by sea. If he wasn't a cartoon duck, he'd be prime material for the Society of Explorers and Adventurers.
Crazydisneyfanluke
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i think ill take world of color......
Californian Elitist
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Would paradise pier fit in the BLT and LMA area?
I'm not sure what Paradise Pier has to do with DHS.
Magenta Panther
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Aw come on. The Grauman Chinese Theater was built in the days of movie palaces...when studios owned their own chain of movie theaters, and tried to out-do each other in terms of opulence and theming. Going to the movies was a much more immersive experience in those days, I bet. But now? The theater chains might try a little with a theater's exterior, but for the most part all of the theaters, no matter who owns them, are all boxes with a screen at one end. Snore. You might as well stay at home and catch new movies on Netflix and Amazon. I have to say that MY home theater sound system kicks the systems at any movie theater I've ever been to. Soundsurround and major woofers. Loew's and AMC can't beat it.
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StageFrenzy
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Is it worse than the terrariums that used to be in MGM?
Goofyernmost
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Are you referring to the theater or the hat? The hat I agree with, the theater, absolutely not. If you meant the hat to avoid nasty posts directed at you, you should probably make that clear. If you meant the theater then you deserve whatever backlash you get.
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Bairstow
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I take it the animators hated the viewing windows?
Jon81uk
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Except at DCA most things do have a unified theme - California. From the wharves and bakeries of SanFran, the redwoods and Rapids of the mountains, streets of "Hollywood", the wines and the Victorian seafront pier. The recent refresh might have Disneyfied it a little but it can be seen what the basic inspiration of the park is.
Unfortunately at DHS it is a lot harder to see what the theme is. Ever since it stopped being a working studio and the tour not actually showing any real sets the theme had been lost. The best option would be to have a series of themed areas such as Pixar, Star Wars, Animation, Golden Hollywood, TV (Inc Muppets).
BrerJon
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Hey don't get me wrong, my hate is for the hat - I love the Chinese Theater and think everyone should see it.
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BrerJon
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Are you referring to the theater or the hat? The hat I agree with, the theater, absolutely not. If you meant the hat to avoid nasty post directed at you, you should probably make that clear. If you meant the theater then you deserve whatever backlash you get.
The hat! I meant the hat! Man, that will teach me to choose my words better. I guess I thought it was obvious to anyone looking at those two pictures side by side which one was the ugly mother!
PirateFrank
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Exactly how would the canyon/desert roads of Route 66 (carsland) have anything to do with california? While I can see loose references to Barstow, CA in the movies -- I can also see Amarillo, TX, Flagstaff, AZ and other non-california states there. Seems like quite a stretch to say cars land is part of the unified California theme. Same exact question with A Bugs Land. Seems to not fit the narrative there either. Those two lands together equal roughly 1/3 the sq footage of the whole park. Unless one is saying that Pixar is what ties it all to california...and that is no more a stretch than anything going on at DHS.
And Jon, I'm not trying to be a 'Richard here'....So forgive the apparent brashness of what I said above. I'm just trying to make the point that the theming might not be as cohesive at DCA as you suggest....and thats ok. In my opinion, neither does DHS need to be that tightly themed. To me, its OK if it branches off of the main idea a little. People keep harping on DHS as not having a direction or a theme -- and I still feel it does. Eisner's original concept was born out of an Epcot pavilion dedicated to the movie experience. DHS *is* about the movie experience. Is it no longer an active studio? You betcha! So drop the 'studios' from the name and move on. But once you look at DHS (or TpfkaDMGMS, as '74 likes to say) from the original concept of a park driven by our love of movies -- almost everything in the park fits. Yes, AIE was a head scratcher. Even RnRC is a little off. But AIE is gone (thank Gawd!) and RnRC (if one's intention was to bring it in line with the theme) can be easily fixed with new stewards. Ditch Aerosmith, overlay the attraction with a bunch of swag, theming and characters from a movie featuring a car chase or some other high speed excitement -- and you're back in line. I can see Fast and Furious fitting the bill, if it weren't a Universal property.
I really scratch my head at the insistence of some that say it's a park without a theme -- lost in the woods, waiting for a sympathetic hunter with a shotgun to put it out of its misery. I don't think it needs a new entrance (unless the entrance is going to improve flow/capacity). I *do* think it needs more attractions -- especially more kid friendly attractions. It needs much more capacity. A snooze of an attraction like TSMM should not be carrying 90min standby wait times....and it needs a draw to counter the huge sucking sound emanating from just east of Turkey Lake Road.
Goofyernmost
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The thing is that they compact quotes now. All that showed up on my screen initially was a picture of the theater with your comment about ugly. If I hadn't clicked on to the quote I would not have seen the "hat" picture with it. Yes, be careful.
Matt_Black
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Mojave Desert, Death Valley...
Goofyernmost
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The real problem is that everyone one of us had a different level of attention in school when they covered grammar. Disney employees didn't escape that little problem. The "new" name of the the park, I believe, was intended to designate it as a grouping of different studios, not just Disney. It would have been harder to have a park named... "Disney Presents Hollywood Studio's", but it would have said it better. Heck even if they had left off the ('s) from Disney's it would have implied that more.
I've been racking my brain trying to think of something that doesn't connect to some studio other then the movies and I am coming up with nothing. It has covered, Disney Studio, Pixar Studio, Muppet Studio, Animation Studio, Assorted Movie Studios, Music Studio's and Television Studio's. It has done that from the very beginning, especially with the inclusion of TV, with SuperStar Television and the TV house facade (Golden Girls,etc).
What it boils down to is that some people have made their own interpretations of what should be represented in the park without ever trying to understand what it was intended to be. To me, in one form or the other, it has probably stayed more true to it's original theme then any of the other parks have. "The Hollywood that never was, and always will be".
PirateFrank
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I take it you didn't read the rest of what I said. Cars/Cars 2/Cars land all evokes imagery of *more* than just California. The imagery invoked in the movies and the land are not exclusive to California nor are they descriptive of the state. In fact, most folks knee jerk reaction when they see something like this:
Is that visually, the landscape surrounding Radiator Springs was themed *specifically* after Monument Valley, in Utah/Arizona.
So not only is radiator springs not immediately and exclusively identifiable with California. Its *far* more identifiable with a region in two other states, of which the region does not directly border California.
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ABQ
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Having lived, literally on RT 66 in New Mexico, I agree wholeheartedly, I never once identified Cars with California but always with AZ or even, possibly due to a degree of bias, NM, but never California. I've driven through many areas of the 4 corners that have rock formations that don't look far off from a 40's Oldsmobile's hood. Maybe that's the desert playing tricks on me though.I take it you didn't read the rest of what I said. Cars/Cars 2/Cars land all evokes imagery of *more* than just California. The imagery invoked in the movies and the land are not exclusive to California nor are they descriptive of the state. In fact, most folks knee jerk reaction when I see something like this:
Is that visually, the landscape surrounding Radiator Springs was themed *specifically* after Monument Valley, in Utah/Arizona.
So not only is radiator springs not immediately and exclusively identifiable with California. Its *far* more identifiable with a region in two other states, of which the region does not directly border California.