the old feeling is gone.... or at least reduced a lot..

[marni1971]

Honest comments are one thing. The endless whining and retching couched in entitlement are a bit much.

Being honest, the amount that negative comments have grown the last few years have surprised even me.

Edit; the amount of negativity in general.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Being honest, the amount that negative comments have grown the last few years have surprised even me.

Same.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Being honest, the amount that negative comments have grown the last few years have surprised even me.

Edit; the amount of negativity in general.

Says the one who called me a "dip weed" (whatever the hell that is) and then edited it to call me a "silly billy" (whatever the hell that is). Sounds pretty hypocritical to me!

 

[HauntedPirate]

I realize that with that comment, you think you are being a sarcastic genius (you are not), but if all of you whining complainers would actually stop going instead of continuing to go and continuing to whine and complain, then maybe things would change.

Number of WDW trips planned: 0
Number of Disney cruises planned: 0
Number of trips to other Disney theme parks planned: 0

Number of trips planned to non-Disney locations: at least 1, probably 2 more in the works.

 

[Chi84]

Because although this is an era of people ignoring facts in favor of what they want to hear, perhaps a few will get the message and start to wonder what it must have been like. Otherwise they think it has always been this way when it hasn't. Besides if one doesn't want to read anything that shatters their image or sounds negative it is a very simple process to NOT click onto a thread that is titled "the old feeling is gone or at least reduced a lot"! There was a time when I was sweet enough on Disney to give every one diabetes, but I'm old enough know to be objective and know what is good and what isn't. I am a little bitter but not without a good reason.

I perfectly understand why people want to let others know how WDW used to be better for them and commiserate on how it's changed. I was just asking about your statement that people are obligated to let newer guests know how things used to be or "nothing at all will happen." What do you think will happen if you let people know what WDW used to be - do you think it will make a difference to those planning to go there?

I'm just asking because I know what happens when I try to tell my kids about how certain things used to be better and how much they have changed for the worse. They get the same glazed over look that I used to give my mom when she told me how certain things used to be better and how much they had changed for the worse.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

If you don't like it, don't go. Speak with your wallet.

Maybe gay people just take things more in stride. Perspective. You know, basic rights coming and going vs. Frozen in Norway.

 

[marni1971]

Says the one who called me a "dip weed" (whatever the hell that is) and then edited it to call me a "silly billy" (whatever the hell that is). Sounds pretty hypocritical to me!

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Number of WDW trips planned: 0
Number of Disney cruises planned: 0
Number of trips to other Disney theme parks planned: 0

Number of trips planned to non-Disney locations: at least 1, probably 2 more in the works.

Sheryl Crow: If it makes you happy!

 

[HauntedPirate]

Sheryl Crow: If it makes you happy!

What makes me happy is not feeling like someone's hand is constantly in my wallet. Disney gives me that feeling these days. Until that's gone, so am I.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Being honest, the amount that negative comments have grown the last few years have surprised even me.

I'm truly shocked to hear that people don't like paying for FastPass and airport transfers.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

What makes me happy is not feeling like someone's hand is constantly in my wallet. Disney gives me that feeling these days. Until that's gone, so am I.

That’s totally cool. You do not come off as an endlessly negative complaining person. You come off as a well-reasoned individual who is making the right decisions for you in this moment.

 

[Jrb1979]

I'm truly shocked to hear that people don't like paying for FastPass and airport transfers.

I don't mind paying for FastPass. I'm used to it as most other parks do it. I just wish they went the Universal route instead. No return times and let people get in line whenever they want.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I don't mind paying for FastPass. I'm used to it as most other parks do it. I just wish they went the Universal route instead. No return times and let people get in line whenever they want.

Yeah, Genie doesn’t seem great, but I didn’t buy/experience it last time I went.

See, I can be objective about things without the “magic is gone” drama.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I don't mind paying for FastPass. I'm used to it as most other parks do it.

I just picked those two examples because they seem like the ones that have ticked off the most Disney fans.

 

[marni1971]

I don't mind paying for FastPass. I'm used to it as most other parks do it. I just wish they went the Universal route instead. No return times and let people get in line whenever they want.

The system couldn’t handle that (it was mooted). Imagine if half the BTM pass holders for that day all turned up at noon. Faat pass and genie were both designed to spread our demand as part of their remit.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Besides if one doesn't want to read anything that shatters their image or sounds negative it is a very simple process to NOT click onto a thread that is titled "the old feeling is gone or at least reduced a lot"!

When one of these threads actually merits that title, I’ll buy it.

 

[Jrb1979]

The system couldn’t handle that (it was mooted). Imagine if half the BTM pass holders for that day all turned up at noon. Faat pass and genie were both designed to spread our demand as part of their remit.

I think it could handle it. It would have a limited amount available. Make it $120 a person and limit it to 10% of guests a day.

 

[Jrb1979]

Yeah, Genie doesn’t seem great, but I didn’t buy/experience it last time I went.

See, I can be objective about things without the “magic is gone” drama.

You do have to admit WDW is not like it once was. I grew up on Epcot in the 80s. It was unique park. Now all the parks feel the same.

 

[marni1971]

I think it could handle it. It would have a limited amount available. Make it $120 a person and limit it to 10% of guests a day.

There in lies a problem with genie. It was also designed to make as much profit as possible in addition to the FP/+ goals. There’s a reluctant admittance in Burbank that the system doesn’t work. It remains to be seen how they plan to “fix” it.

 

[LittleBuford]

Those of us that have seen the best times are obligated to let the newer guest know what they are missing

To what end, though? If newer guests enjoy the product, whom does it benefit to tell them, “Well, it used to be so much better”?

For what it’s worth, I am not a newer guest and still really enjoy WDW (or at least what I experienced the last time I went, which was in February 2020).