The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[Phroobar]

I didnt like Max at first but that might be because she played her role well. I like Robin too. Gaten is great! Curious to see how he'd do in a different role.

Saide Sink is good at drama. Maya Hawk looks just like her mom. Finn Wolfhard has a few movies under his belt and should have a good career. I think Millie Bobby Brown is going to implode.

 

[D.Silentu]

For any theatre fans here, Gaten got his start on stage as Gavroche in Les Miserables. Would have loved to see that.

 

[Touchdown]

Season 1: That first season was perfect it’s the whole reason the show became huge. No notes.
Season 4: Vecna, Eddy, Master of Puppets, just a great tight narritive of increasing tension. However the Hopper plot was stupid and over the top. Should have actually killed him or made him have to survive a year in the Upside Down, not end up in Siberia. The California stuff was also meh, but thankfully ended quickly.
Season 5: Incredibly bombastic, the first half and the finale were great, the rest of the second half not so much.
Season 2: The finale saved this season, it was was dark, Hob was great, but it was too depressing at times and lost a lot of the whimsy other seasons had.
Season 3: This season was a correction from season two that way overcorrected, this season had too much whimsy, the plot was just a little too ridiculous and the finale while fun was also a bit much.

Loved the show, I bet I’ll rewatch it again

 

[mickEblu]

Season 1: That first season was perfect it’s the whole reason the show became huge. No notes.
Season 4: Vecna, Eddy, Master of Puppets, just a great tight narritive of increasing tension. However the Hopper plot was stupid and over the top. Should have actually killed him or made him have to survive a year in the Upside Down, not end up in Siberia. The California stuff was also meh, but thankfully ended quickly.
Season 5: Incredibly bombastic, the first half and the finale were great, the rest of the second half not so much.
Season 2: The finale saved this season, it was was dark, Hob was great, but it was too depressing at times and lost a lot of the whimsy other seasons had.
Season 3: This season was a correction from season two that way overcorrected, this season had too much whimsy, the plot was just a little too ridiculous and the finale while fun was also a bit much.

Loved the show, I bet I’ll rewatch it again

Interesting. We pretty much have the same ranking except for the fact that I enjoyed all the nostalgia and summer blockbuster feel of season 3 and you didnt. My sister / bro in law in their early 30's (with no 80s nostalgia) both had season 3 as their least favorite.

 

[Parteecia]

Can someone explain to me why the collapse of the upside down wormhole stopped at the gate?

I won't ask why only soldiers seemed to die during fights.

And I loved the Lego Creel House at the DtD store.

 

[Phroobar]

Can someone explain to me why the collapse of the upside down wormhole stopped at the gate?

I won't ask why only soldiers seemed to die during fights.

And I loved the Lego Creel House at the DtD store.

It would have raised the stakes if a character or two died.

 

[Phroobar]

Here is Daisy meditating during the runnaway train breakdown.

 

[Touchdown]

Can someone explain to me why the collapse of the upside down wormhole stopped at the gate?

I won't ask why only soldiers seemed to die during fights.

And I loved the Lego Creel House at the DtD store.

Because the wormhole ceased to exist, but Earth continued to, when a universe collapses in on itself it implodes, not explodes, the door simply shut. If anything it may have pulled some things into it, but it wouldn’t have exploded.

The real question is, since the Upside Down is a wormhole the size of Hawkins emanating from the lab, how did Russia tap into it and why did Hopper find himself in Siberia? The mall portal never fully opened, how did a demogorgon end up in Russia?

Which again goes back to why I like season 3 the least.

 

[Disney Irish]

Because the wormhole ceased to exist, but Earth continued to, when a universe collapses in on itself it implodes, not explodes, the door simply shut. If anything it may have pulled some things into it, but it wouldn’t have exploded.

The real question is, since the Upside Down is a wormhole the size of Hawkins emanating from the lab, how did Russia tap into it and why did Hopper find himself in Siberia? The mall portal never fully opened, how did a demogorgon end up in Russia?

Which again goes back to why I like season 3 the least.

Basically it’s explained that the Mall rift was a small localized rift that opened between the Mall and Siberia, it was never stabilized. It was caused by the Russians doing their own experiments in Hawkins trying to steal the technology from the lab.

 

[Touchdown]

Basically it’s explained that the Mall rift was a small localized rift that opened between the Mall and Siberia, it was never stabilized. It was caused by the Russians doing their own experiments in Hawkins trying to steal the technology from the lab.

But how did it then transport things to Siberia?

 

[Phroobar]

But how did it then transport things to Siberia?

 

[Disney Irish]

But how did it then transport things to Siberia?

The other end of the rift opened in Siberia, basically inside the prison, which is why much of that season with Hopper was set in the prison.

The Russians were basically trying to backdoor their way into the Upside Down via the secret base in the Mall. That rift opened to the prison instead of Dimension X.

 

[Touchdown]

The other end of the rift opened in Siberia, basically inside the prison, which is why much of that season with Hopper was set in the prison.

The Russians were basically trying to backdoor their way into the Upside Down via the secret base in the Mall. That rift opened to the prison instead of Dimension X.

Yeah not buying it. Wormholes are supposed to be defined spaces with only two end points. Wormholes should not have intersections where one wormhole crosses into another. It wasn’t a big deal in Season 3 because the USD wasn’t shown to be a wormhole until Season 5 but it retroactively becomes a huge plot hole, even more then Dustin’s demodog pet.

 

[DavidDL]

Possibly silly random thought and comparison but last night we decided to watch a movie and settled on Fantasia. I noticed that the film's Master of Ceremonies, Deems Taylor sounded oddly familiar. Then it struck me, he sounds almost exactly like the voice on the Mickey & Friends Tram who was always telling us to "please use the picnic area" or "annual passes are an especially good value", etc.

Obviously I know it can't be him since he passed away in 1966 but I still thought it was interesting. I wonder if the choice of voice was somehow intentional or someone related to him? Or maybe just a funny coincidence. Here's Taylor introducing the "Rite of Spring" segment for reference:

 

[Disney Irish]

Yeah not buying it. Wormholes are supposed to be defined spaces with only two end points. Wormholes should not have intersections where one wormhole crosses into another. It wasn’t a big deal in Season 3 because the USD wasn’t shown to be a wormhole until Season 5 but it retroactively becomes a huge plot hole, even more then Dustin’s demodog pet.

I mean we're talking about fiction here not reality based on real science. In fiction a wormhole can be anything the author wants it to be. Heck if you've watched Doctor Who you know is this possible, as the TARDIS is shown to travel through a time vortex of interconnected network of wormholes.

And even in real science we still haven't proven the entire physics of wormholes yet anyways, its all just theoretical at this point, ie the math works but haven't proven it in practice. So for all we know there is an equation that can show that a wormhole can have multiple entrances and exits like a highway.