The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

PiratesMansion

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It would be nice if MV3D came back for DCA's 25th anniversary. I always enjoyed the show and west coasters didn't get a chance to experience it before closing, since DCA just closed it during a refurb.
Not a chance, unfortunately. If anyone loved Muppetvision out here, it seems like they kept it to themselves.

That said, it does strike me as the best overall 3D show for modern general audiences. Not too scary (ITTBAB), not too weird (EO), not tied to a mega-dead franchise and/or one to go all in on audience abuse (HISTA), not ultra-obscure (Magic Journeys).
 

mickEblu

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Not a chance, unfortunately. If anyone loved Muppetvision out here, it seems like they kept it to themselves.

That said, it does strike me as the best overall 3D show for modern general audiences. Not too scary (ITTBAB), not too weird (EO), not tied to a mega-dead franchise and/or one to go all in on audience abuse (HISTA), not ultra-obscure (Magic Journeys).

I have to imagine kids would greatly prefer ITTBAB to MV3D but I wouldn’t know for sure. Mine were too young or didn’t exist when those two shows were running.
 

TP2000

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Any other Californians somewhat shocked by east coast people's adornment of Muppet Vision 3D? I enjoyed the show and its fun but definitely a product of its time. It closed here with no fanfare.

It's because it has sat in that theme park for decades, and since it's a theme park that is woefully short of actual rides and fresh, new shows, it seems like a big deal in comparison.

When you've got a 35 year old theme park that has less than a dozen rides, and has hokey little theaters presenting stage shows that haven't been changed since Bill Clinton was in office, losing something like MuppetVision seems like a big deal.

It's the natural result of decades of very low standards and very weak park offerings.
 

PiratesMansion

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I have to imagine kids would greatly prefer ITTBAB to MV3D but I wouldn’t know for sure. Mine were too young or didn’t exist when those two shows were running.
At least on the WDW side of things, ITTBAB was infamous for making kids cry, or at least scaring the stuffing out of them. Perhaps things were different at DCA, but I doubt there's a tremendous difference between children at both resorts. I suppose more people may have encountered ITTBAB at WDW simply because DAK had many fewer attractions than DCA.
It's because it has sat in that theme park for decades, and since it's a theme park that is woefully short of actual rides and fresh, new shows, it seems like a big deal in comparison.

When you've got a 35 year old theme park that has less than a dozen rides, and has hokey little theaters presenting stage shows that haven't been changed since Bill Clinton was in office, losing something like MuppetVision seems like a big deal.

It's the natural result of decades of very low standards and very weak park offerings.
Obviously the way WDW has handled DHS and many of its other attractions is less than ideal, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Muppetvision was a bad attraction or that people just embraced it because of a lack of other options. It clearly had fans, and would have had a dedicated following even if DHS had added an adequate number of attractions over the years.

That people here clearly didn't get the appeal doesn't mean that the show could not have had many genuine, dedicated fans in Florida.
 

mickEblu

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At least on the WDW side of things, ITTBAB was infamous for making kids cry, or at least scaring the stuffing out of them. Perhaps things were different at DCA, but I doubt there's a tremendous difference between children at both resorts. I suppose more people may have encountered ITTBAB at WDW simply because DAK had many fewer attractions than DCA.

Obviously the way WDW has handled DHS and many of its other attractions is less than ideal, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Muppetvision was a bad attraction or that people just embraced it because of a lack of other options. It clearly had fans, and would have had a dedicated following even if DHS had added an adequate number of attractions over the years.

That people here clearly didn't get the appeal doesn't mean that the show could not have had many genuine, dedicated fans in Florida.

Wow really? I don’t remember anything that was that scary. The hopper AA? At least nothing scarier for kids than the HM stretching room.
 

Too Many Hats

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MuppetVision is among my all-time favorite Disney attractions. Yes, I grew up on the East Coast lol.

Maybe the DCA show (which I never experienced) was a lesser version. The MGM Studios show was a delight.

I’m disappointed and saddened but not shocked to hear it’s closing. After the ROA/Cars announcement, I’ve lost all faith in Disney/WDI. They don’t understand their own product. All our favorite attractions are on borrowed time.

It’s funny how some of the same Disney parks fans who scolded others to “get over it” when Splash closed (or when we learned about MK’s ROA) are now completely melting down over the Muppets. Have to admit, I’m kind of enjoying seeing it.
 

Rich T

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…I’m disappointed and saddened but not shocked to hear it’s closing. After the ROA/Cars announcement, I’ve lost all faith in Disney/WDI. They don’t understand their own product. All our favorite attractions are on borrowed time…
For me, it’s reached the point where, having been a Disney park fan for decades, I now wouldn’t care if they all closed permanently tomorrow. The ridiculous Corporation-speak explanation of how Cars fits into their new definition of “Frontierland” was the last straw for me. Gross.

I’m so glad Epic Universe is nearly ready—Got tickets for opening day and beyond. I have no idea of what the actual *experience* of visiting the place will be like at this point, but I’m looking forward to an entire park full of ideas I’m actually interested in. A fresh, cohesively themed park free from sad sights such as downgraded classics, Americana being bulldozed, and unused old PeopleMover tracks will be a nice change.
 

TP2000

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Obviously the way WDW has handled DHS and many of its other attractions is less than ideal, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Muppetvision was a bad attraction or that people just embraced it because of a lack of other options. It clearly had fans, and would have had a dedicated following even if DHS had added an adequate number of attractions over the years.

Read that paragraph again, but this time substitute "MuppetVision" for "Sounds Dangerous". Or even for "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, Play It!"

You get the same result. But only at WDW with East Coast audiences.

In Anaheim, things are very different. Or at least, they were. 🧐
 

CaptinEO

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It's because it has sat in that theme park for decades, and since it's a theme park that is woefully short of actual rides and fresh, new shows, it seems like a big deal in comparison.

When you've got a 35 year old theme park that has less than a dozen rides, and has hokey little theaters presenting stage shows that haven't been changed since Bill Clinton was in office, losing something like MuppetVision seems like a big deal.

It's the natural result of decades of very low standards and very weak park offerings.
Well said. And you are right, the park has been running the Indiana Jones stunt show and Beauty and the Beast shows long enough to see Indy through the 4th and 5th entries and Beauty and the Beast to be remade (all decades later).

Even when I first went to Disney World 15 years ago everyone laughed at the 25 year old guy in the Indiana Jones show starting things off by saying "Hello everyone I'm Harrison Ford's stunt double". Lets hope they changed that line cause clearly he looks nothing like that 35 years later.
 
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CaptinEO

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And the end. I was confused when the street it showed was not the one that was outside of the theater.
I wasn't in DHS anywhere near when the ride was new (so don't know what the park used to look like) but I read the ending was done at a set built to resemble Disneyland's Mainstreet USA as it was planned to go in the Mr Lincoln theater.
 

PiratesMansion

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Read that paragraph again, but this time substitute "MuppetVision" for "Sounds Dangerous". Or even for "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, Play It!"

You get the same result. But only at WDW with East Coast audiences.

In Anaheim, things are very different. Or at least, they were. 🧐
And Muppetvision was done much earlier than both of those things, back before the Disney Parks went down into the toilet. It was done with the full original muppets team and was one of Jim Henson's last projects before his premature death. It was NOT the quick, cheap rush job for stupid people that you are framing it as.

It's really ok that people who aren't you liked Muppetvision, promise!
 

Phroobar

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Wasn't there something different in the Florida version of Muppetvision that we didn't get? Arrows would show up on Statler & Waldorf's box when they surrender.
 

TP2000

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It's really ok that people who aren't you liked Muppetvision, promise!

Who the heck said that?! I loved MuppetVision (in the early 1990's).

I watched the original Muppet Show religiously during the Disco Era. The Swedish Chef has been a recurring punchline in my family of Swedes for decades. A clone of MuppetVision was one of the few good things to come out of DCA 1.0 in 2001; somewhere behind Soarin' Over California, and only slightly above Golden Dreams.

But it's not 1990 anymore. It's not even 2001. It's 2024, and the show hasn't changed or been updated. Much like cutting the Offenbach number out of the Tiki Room was the right thing to do, they should have drastically edited down that 3D gimmick with the Waldos at least 20 years ago; it drags on far too long.

But crying and moaning that MuppetVision is closing at DHS? That's not very flattering to that park. And the fans that are upset DHS will finally be without a MuppetVision show seem to be people who are simply starved for entertainment in a theme park with a very weak lineup of entertainment. :(
 

TP2000

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President Biden pardoned his last two turkeys yesterday; Peach and Blossom from his home state of Delaware! Cute! 🤣



I love that tradition. I'll have to Google it to find out which President started it, but it's hilarious. One of my favorite things Disneyland has done was back in the 2000's and 2010's when they would fly the pardoned turkeys out to California after their White House ceremony, and then parade them up Main Street before giving them their new forever homes in Frontierland's Big Thunder Ranch. Equally hilarious, and PR perfection! A shame Disneyland doesn't have the wit or style to do that sort of PR stunt anymore.

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I'm about to fly to my sister's for the big holiday weekend confab. But I hope everyone here has their kitchen battle plan in place, their silver shined, and a short list of all the things they are thankful for as a part of living in this great country during a very American holiday! Happy Thanksgiving gang! May you all make it a great one this year!

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Phroobar

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Who the heck said that?! I loved MuppetVision (in the early 1990's).

I watched the original Muppet Show religiously during the Disco Era. The Swedish Chef has been a recurring punchline in my family of Swedes for decades. A clone of MuppetVision was one of the few good things to come out of DCA 1.0 in 2001; somewhere behind Soarin' Over California, and only slightly above Golden Dreams.

But it's not 1990 anymore. It's not even 2001. It's 2024, and the show hasn't changed or been updated. Much like cutting the Offenbach number out of the Tiki Room was the right thing to do, they should have drastically edited down that 3D gimmick with the Waldos at least 20 years ago; it drags on far too long.

But crying and moaning that MuppetVision is closing at DHS? That's not very flattering to that park. And the fans that are upset DHS will finally be without a MuppetVision show seem to be people who are simply starved for entertainment in a theme park with a very weak lineup of entertainment. :(
There would be blood in the streets if they closed DHS's Tower of Terror.
 

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