Disney Irish
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But seriously, with de-aging tech getting better every year they could have still had him play the role. You have Stoick sounding correct, but Hiccup doesn't. It just doesn't work for me.
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Rich T
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I don’t like the idea of de-aging a main character’s actor for the entirety of a film. Gerard Butler is there because… perfect timing in his age/career. I do kind of agree with you in that this film will live or die based on whether the new take on Hiccup works anywhere near as well as Jay Burachel’s performances. (Between the films and the tv series, he’s devoted a big chunk of his life to this character—I’ll be amazed if he doesn’t at least have a cameo in this).
I’m not expecting this remake to be as good as the original (would love to be proven wrong), but I do want to go see it as an adaptation: much like watching a live stage version of a familiar film. I’m glad it’s the original director on board and the teaser gives me hope it will at least be well-made.
Still wondering “WHY,” though beyond 1) Money 2) Re-energizing the franchise and 3) Epic Universe. I think I just answered my own question…
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Disney Irish
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Same basic question can be asked why any Studio does what they do.Still wondering “WHY,” though beyond 1) Money 2) Re-energizing the franchise and 3) Epic Universe. I think I just answered my own question…
Tysus
New Member
I heard a quote years ago listening to a podcast that said the answer to all your questions is money and I've always come back to that with most decisions these companies do. How it will lead to money I'm lost on since they seem to me to be a terrible idea at worst and something I don't care for most of the time. They could also just look at the fact Disney did these live action adaptations for a decade and it did well, so why not us?
Rich T
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I’m totally fascinated by this project. I generally hate live action remakes, but… this is my favorite movie they’re tackling— with the original director and a major actor returning—so I’m very curious to see a different take on this world. The trailer’s gotten over four million views in just a few hours, so there’s some interest there.
The big difference between HTTYD and other remakes is that HTTYD has a such a near-perfect script and solid world-building that it has always been strong enough to carry a major live action feature without changing a word (Edit: except for toning down the modern animation jokiness). I think the first HTTYD is the best fantasy film — live or animated — ever produced that is not based on Tolkien. The sequels are… fine.
One other argument for this remake: the original’s CGI human character rendering is starting to show its age. Just a bit. I’d frankly rather see the film remastered and rereleased as an upgraded edition (always keeping the original edition available) than have a live action remake, but anything to help introduce more people to this terrific story is ok by me… as long as it, y’know, is actually not bad.
I really hope it’s good. I’ve never loved any remake, but there’s always a first time…
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Rich T
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What really strikes me as odd is how Toothless looks more or less exactly as he does in the animated films—It almost looks like the live actor is playing against the original animated performance, though of course I’m assuming it’s all been freshly animated with the upgraded Toothless design.
I’m super curious. And I’m looking forward to hearing the new recordings of John Powell’s incredible themes. Heavy on the bagpipes, please!
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Tysus
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I'll need to re-watch this then since I haven't seen it since it came out and I was around 10 at the time. I'll admit I avoid trailers for movies unless I'm on the fence since they all seem to show too much of a movie so I haven't watched this, along with my disinterest for the concept from the start. I'll also admit I'm jaded with the remake concept since it feels like that's all I've gotten to grow up with as a teenager/adult along with Marvel which I've been done with since the last Thor. But your enthusiasm for the movie has made me reconsider my stance on not seeing it. I look forward to your review
That is something I have noticed with CG animated movies is they feel to me at least to age much quicker than hand drawn. I did a Toy Story marathon and I enjoyed the first two movies but I did notice how dated they were compared to 3 and 4. Reminds me of the video games I have nostalgia for as a good looking and replaying them as an adult and having that rose color tint taken off. But in recent years there have been some pretty big remakes so maybe your movie concept could take off at some point.
Rich T
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Black Cauldron would be great for a live action remake! Also Treasure Planet. Gerard Butler as Silver.
Phroobar
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We are totally missing the next Lord of the Rings with The Chronicles of Prydain by Lloyd Alexander. The Black Cauldron was just a small taste.
All for the best though. Disney would just turn it into Amazon's Rings of Power.
SuddenStorm
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It looks great, but the reduced pre show film drives me nuts. If that was working I'd say it's about as good as it's gonna get for a while unless Disney brought back some of the randomized audio that's been missing in the attraction for years.
CaptinEO
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Any other Californians somewhat shocked by east coast people's adornment of Muppet Vision 3D? I enjoyed the show and its fun but definitely a product of its time. It closed here with no fanfare.
I've been seeing online reactions comparing it to being as important as Pirates of the Caribbean and Haunted Mansion. My whole feed is full of stuff like this.
I understand it's the last show Jim Henson worked on, but it's a 30 year old themepark 3D show that had a huge run. I get people lamenting it going away but the level of adoration really surprised me.
I've been seeing online reactions comparing it to being as important as Pirates of the Caribbean and Haunted Mansion. My whole feed is full of stuff like this.
I understand it's the last show Jim Henson worked on, but it's a 30 year old themepark 3D show that had a huge run. I get people lamenting it going away but the level of adoration really surprised me.
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Yes, I don’t get it. This is the reaction I expected from them when Disney announced the ROA was being turned into a Cars ride at MK. Tom Corliss compared the two saying “this isn’t like the Rivers of America and the steamboat that were on their way out…” Lol. He’s saying that losing a digitized show with two animatronics is much worse than losing the Rivers of America, Tom Sawyer Island and the steamboat. That’s crazy talk to me.
I also think ITTBAB was far superior to MV3D.
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No. Hahah
MoonRakerSCM
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Hah! I always forget about him.
Nland316
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Literally what I’ve been trying to wrap my head around too.
The reaction is definitely overkill imo. The valid argument though is that they have underutilized space at DHS, and instead decided to retheme an area that doesn’t necessarily need immediate attention. That, and when all said and done doesn’t drastically increase capacity. That part is valid.
With that being said though, I don’t think 3D / 4D shows really have a place in theme parks nowadays.