The guests that Disney does not want

Magikal

Member
I'm sure theyd prefer white christians and non of this gay malarky too.
Actually, I would prefer the gay community over the mannerless hicks, child beaters, and many other unseemly likes. Generally, from what I've seen, they are much more pleasant and orderly than a wide array if other groups I can think of that I'd much rather not interrupt my family vacation! I'm not saying they're ALL this way, but my experience has proven to be surprisingly pleasant around them.
 

vinnya1726

Active Member
Every time I've been to WDW since I was 21 I've gone to PI or Atlantic Dance Hall to dance and grab a drink. The 20-30 year olds are the next mom and dad bringing their kids. Can't lose them to USO.

You won't loose them though and that is what Disney knows. Before a child meets Harry Potter, they will have already meet Mickey Mouse, the Princesses, Winnie the Pooh, etc...that is what get's families to come to Disney...over and over again...so they go to universal for a bit...they do come back. We also have to remember their are many adults who do not like the crazy thrill rides and think Disney has gone to far in trying to accommodate those who do. Some still believe that every Disney attraction should be a family attraction, not sure I agree with that, but you do need a balance.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
You won't loose them though and that is what Disney knows. Before a child meets Harry Potter, they will have already meet Mickey Mouse, the Princesses, Winnie the Pooh, etc...that is what get's families to come to Disney...over and over again...so they go to universal for a bit...they do come back. We also have to remember their are many adults who do not like the crazy thrill rides and think Disney has gone to far in trying to accommodate those who do. Some still believe that every Disney attraction should be a family attraction, not sure I agree with that, but you do need a balance.

People think this? I have never heard anyone complain in that direction.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
You won't loose them though and that is what Disney knows. Before a child meets Harry Potter, they will have already meet Mickey Mouse, the Princesses, Winnie the Pooh, etc...that is what get's families to come to Disney...over and over again...so they go to universal for a bit...they do come back. We also have to remember their are many adults who do not like the crazy thrill rides and think Disney has gone to far in trying to accommodate those who do. Some still believe that every Disney attraction should be a family attraction, not sure I agree with that, but you do need a balance.
While Universal Orlando Resort may be lacking in offerings for small children, it hardly hits only at a non-Disney phase. They are also now not interested in just milking what they have. Disney's big plans depend far too much on people just being in a place where they once did something memorable. New and exciting additions that push themed entertainment, seasonal offerings, night life, resorts, Universal now means business. The gap between number of people may still be large, but there is nothing written in stone that Disney must remain king. Plenty of companies were once the large king of ther industry and their stagnation and refusal to act ended up being their downfall. People ignored that it could happen and by the time it was realized that it is happening, the damage was done and the sinking of the ship could not be stopped.
 

Jimmy Thick

Well-Known Member
Jimmy, I usually enjoy your posts and love the "Jimmy Thick" character but I think you're missing it here. The point is not to exclude a segment of potential revenue. Believe me, I'm a firm believer in the profit motive, but your thinking is too short-term. Disney ideally wants to attract everyone in the world. But if one source of revenue actually DRIVES AWAY a different, greater source of revenue, attracting the first source is a net loss.

How or where is any source of revenue driving away the other? When is this happening, where is it happening? Whom is driving away whom? I was in the parks in May, the place was packed with all age groups. I was at Universal the same week, it had an older crowd. Are you sure you're talking about Disney World?


Jimmy Thick- Head scratching...
 

olinecoach61

Well-Known Member
If you noticed bites that were consistent with bedbug bites on the last day of your visit that only got more inflamed when you got home what would you do?
I would call / email Disney to let them know. I would also steam all of my clothes nd hope to kill any hitch hikers!
 

Minnie1976

Well-Known Member
This ride would definitely pull in the younger generation thrill seekers. But the rides at Disney tell a story that you can immerse yourself in as you wait your turn. I am totally a wimp and can ride most of the rides at Disney but only because I can't see exactly how high I am dangling above the ground on most of the rides. I can tell you now I would never survive the before jitters I would get waiting my turn on this ride.:eek:
I have to agree with you. I am a wimp, too. I like being in the dark and not seeing how high I am. I guess that is why I like Space Moutain and Rock and Roll Roller Coaster. I finally opened my eyes on TOT after years of closing them tight and the same for the drop on Splash Mt.
 

crosswagon

Member
I have to agree with you. I am a wimp, too. I like being in the dark and not seeing how high I am. I guess that is why I like Space Moutain and Rock and Roll Roller Coaster. I finally opened my eyes on TOT after years of closing them tight and the same for the drop on Splash Mt.

That is exactly my feelings! As long I can't see to the ground I am okay. I had rather ride the TOT at night than in the day because of the same reasons.
 

BrittanyRose428

Well-Known Member
I am guessing the survey didn't ask if you would prefer abandoned buildings.

DTD needs some sort of draw other than Just shopping. The bowling and movie theater are nice adds but there needs to be more. They should think about adding some sort of fountain show like the Bellagio in Vegas or a less elaborate version of world of color from Disney Land to attract people to stick around after dinner. I only say less elaborate since it would be a free show in an area with unpaid guests mixed in so they aren't going to spend too much on it. Add in a few more outdoor stage areas with live bands and have bars setup around them. Maybe throw in one actual club with a separate cover for the dance crowd. I also think they could use another sports bar somewhere on property. I imagine football Sunday at ESPN Zone must get crowded. I think DTD as is has a good base for building something really cool that could appeal to young adults. They just need to step up their game.
Agreed. Honestly, I never really go to Downtown Disney. If someone else in my family really wants to I'm not opposed to it, but I do enough eating and shopping in the parks. I've seen La Nouba, and I would see it again, but its not a must-do on every trip. I think the bowling and movie theater are nice adds too, but I wouldn't do it on vacation because I can do those things at home. Its the same logic with eating at the Rainforest Cafe, there is one in the local mall near me, so I wouldn't go out of my way to eat there while on vacation. One or two actual night clubs would be nice though. I'll be 21 next year, but I'm really not into the whole club scene. I mean, I like to go out with my friends and have a good time, but I'm not impressed by some of the clubs near me that are filled with trashy girls, fights, and in all honesty a crowd that I just don't want to be around. Where WDW as a whole is more of a family environment, I would imagine there would be less of that, and this would make me more interested. I don't know how they could get around that, but limiting the night clubs to one or two might be the best thing to do.
 

jlsHouston

Well-Known Member
I have never really thought to deeply about the disney culture or the disney corporate thinking since for years I viewed Disneyland as an amusement par with disney characters... shows you how narrow viewed I can be about stuff.. but now since I have been to WDW and keep going back like every 4-6 months as my money and time permit because I am so enamored of the the resorts, the parks, just everything disney about it, I will say this, for sure it is about the money. IF 15-25 years are paying guests I think disney wants them satisfied and wants them to keep coming back. And I think their corporate strategy is working because I am only on my 4th trip but look at most of the people on these threads have been going to disney for years and years. Many of you went as children, returned as young adults, returned again as parents and your kids will probably do the same. The strategy has worked....
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Agreed. Honestly, I never really go to Downtown Disney. If someone else in my family really wants to I'm not opposed to it, but I do enough eating and shopping in the parks. I've seen La Nouba, and I would see it again, but its not a must-do on every trip. I think the bowling and movie theater are nice adds too, but I wouldn't do it on vacation because I can do those things at home. Its the same logic with eating at the Rainforest Cafe, there is one in the local mall near me, so I wouldn't go out of my way to eat there while on vacation. One or two actual night clubs would be nice though. I'll be 21 next year, but I'm really not into the whole club scene. I mean, I like to go out with my friends and have a good time, but I'm not impressed by some of the clubs near me that are filled with trashy girls, fights, and in all honesty a crowd that I just don't want to be around. Where WDW as a whole is more of a family environment, I would imagine there would be less of that, and this would make me more interested. I don't know how they could get around that, but limiting the night clubs to one or two might be the best thing to do.

In my time going to PI when it was open the clubs were very tame. Not at all like the ones you may have witnessed at home. In my opinion the clubs were very Disney like. Although there was alcohol and music and there could be some less classy people I always felt comfortable and safe just like I was in one of the parks. It was one of the best parts of PI. A place to enjoy music and dancing without feeling unsafe. There is another thread on DTD where a number of people claim there were gangs active at PI near the end. I never witnessed it, but if true then I would agree the clubs were not in keeping with being family entertainment.
 

J03Y

Well-Known Member
um... Disney cares about making money from everyone, even the teenage thrill seekers. that was why they even made MGM and Epcot in the first place.
 

maryszhi

Well-Known Member
I have gone more to disney as an "adult" than i have as a "child". I felt that disney is a great place to go because it is fun, safe, and basically you can do what you please in terms of ride options/dinning. Now that I am older, i wish they would have more thrill rides. I am happy with the rides they currently have, but adding thrill rides here and there would spice things up. That does not necessarily mean make a universal/ universal islands of adventure like park, but enough thrill rides to make up a section of a current park. I am all for a pixar/ marvel mash up at hollywood studios, or a new country at epcot. I do, however, feel like the childrens rides are classics and are a draw all their own.
 

jlsHouston

Well-Known Member
This is definitely not true. Sounds like you need to visit Disneyland again.

haha don't I know it, I had such a bad attitude in my late 20's...my children and their sibling rivalry really got to me! Honestly I perceived disneyland like I looked at the beach boardwalk in Santa Cruz..I can't believe I got so little joy out of my 3 visits there... and in a way it swore me off the desire to ever visit WDW and we even lived in Florida briefly when the kids were middle school age... LUCKILY I had grandkids and suddenly all the disney characters were back on my tv and then it was just waiting for them to be "old enough" where I knew we could enjoy the parks together... and here I am 19 days away from my 4 trip to the magic in a year with my travel companions!
 

jlsHouston

Well-Known Member
I have gone more to disney as an "adult" than i have as a "child". I felt that disney is a great place to go because it is fun, safe, and basically you can do what you please in terms of ride options/dinning. Now that I am older, i wish they would have more thrill rides. I am happy with the rides they currently have, but adding thrill rides here and there would spice things up. That does not necessarily mean make a universal/ universal islands of adventure like park, but enough thrill rides to make up a section of a current park. I am all for a pixar/ marvel mash up at hollywood studios, or a new country at epcot. I do, however, feel like the childrens rides are classics and are a draw all their own.

and I totally agree, look at Small World and Pirates of the Caribbean, totally classic disney rides and even the swiss family robinson treehouse though I remembered it differently from the California park ...
 

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