The FRONT of Epcot Really Needs to become Future World

MikeTaylorSound

Well-Known Member
I'm sure a lot of stuff will be planned for EPCOT, but not carried out. Just look at Avatarland in AK and see that it has already become scaled back from the original plans.

Step One: Plan something cool that everyone is on board with
Step Two: ??????
Step Three: Profit!

It makes me sad to think that realistically, over the next ten years all we're going to see updated in EPCOT is a cheap Frozen makeover in Norway (Phase One already happened in the Stave Church), The Monsters University playground area (if they keep it all year round), the Soarin' over Florida film (presented by Tropicana, so you still have the orange blossom smell!), and whatever they replace Captain EO with.

As long as people keep buying beer at WS, EPCOT will continue to generate cash flow, so there's really no need to invest in updates from a financial perspective. They'll wait until a new movie phenomenon occurs that can fit into the EPCOT scope of things before that happens. I thought it would have already with WALL-E for FW or Brave for WS, because both movies grossed more than Cars. Of course a lot of films' sequels do better, i.e., Monsters University. Probably because inflation isn't calculated.

I adore EPCOT. I understand why a lot of things have happened and it's not the park's fault. The vision was laid out and the technology outgrew the vision (and that's a huge problem when the vision is technology). No new vision was constructed to enhance the allure of the park. What is EPCOT's answer to MK's Splash Mountain? Mission: Space, Test Track? They tore down rides to construct these, they are not additions. Body Wars is in a new park with a new theme. Does anyone eat at the Coral Reef Restaurant anymore?

I think the best thing (and probably the cheapest) would be a WALL-E 4-D experience with moving seats to replace Captain EO. How awesome would it be to recreate the space dance with EVE? I think a lot of kids, now children would relate to that moreso than what's there now. Also, a new pavilion in WS to feature Brave, the ride... there aren't any outside water rides, this would be a perfect fit for it. Easy to create a last, large drop where the evil bear tries to come out and get you. A perfect fit for Scotland and whiskey sales and there are 75 active breweries to feature their beer.
 

willtravel

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I will say (as has been said before on these boards) that Apple should really be approached though if they are in fact looking for corporate monies to subsidize with. I cannot remember the exact numbers but the Jobs family owns quite a bit of Disney Corp and I cannot see why they would not invest in their investment AND use that money to expand minds, increase exposure in the marketplace and showcase themselves...but I am not a corporate big wig either, just a guy who's money Disney is losing by making the magic wear thin.
I agree that it would be great if Disney brought in Apple for sponsorship. Apple has something like $160 billion in cash and I am sure Disney would be happy to get there hands on a little bit of that money for park investment. But I don't think Apple needs Disney for exposure. There stock was at $645.00 per share before recently splitting. I think they had/have plenty exposure on there own without needing Disney's help. As you said the era of corporate sponsorship is fading away. Sponsor's don't need Disney as in year's gone by.
 

copcarguyp71

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I agree that it would be great if Disney brought in Apple for sponsorship. Apple has something like $160 billion in cash and I am sure Disney would be happy to get there hands on a little bit of that money for park investment. But I don't think Apple needs Disney for exposure. There stock was at $645.00 per share before recently splitting. I think they had/have plenty exposure on there own without needing Disney's help. As you said the era of corporate sponsorship is fading away. Sponsor's don't need Disney as in year's gone by.

Actually beings as the Jobs family owns so much Disney stock I was thinking the other way around...they could benefit by increasing the share prices of Disney. Agreed Apple does not need this but Disney sure could...I think in the corporate world they call it synergy but no matter what EPCOT needs some help. Of course they could start by removing the cemetery in front of SSE;)
 

Marijil

Well-Known Member
Such an interesting dilemma...WS is in my opinion so well done and relevant, it is, as Walt said of Disneyland, never finished, always evolving, at least to the extent practical, and unaffected by the passage of time...

Future world, by its nature is dated and borderline corny and kitzche...the immense scale and scope of the pavilions make constant updating difficult, im guessing...
Maybe this is why never imagined epcot as a theme park but as an evolving community...hmmmm:rolleyes:
 

WDWVolFan

Well-Known Member
I think the whole innoventions plazas are wasted as well. Does Epcot really need a giant indoor playground. So much can be used in that space.

Innoventions used to rock back in the early to mid 90s when it had tons of cool arcades and stuff...two years ago I went there and all I saw was a boring Fire Truck, some fire safety thing for kids and multiple videogame consoles that people individually play...
 

copcarguyp71

Well-Known Member
Innoventions used to rock back in the early to mid 90s when it had tons of cool arcades and stuff...two years ago I went there and all I saw was a boring Fire Truck, some fire safety thing for kids and multiple videogame consoles that people individually play...

Sum of all Thrills was in fact pretty cool! Probably the shining star of innoventions during our last trip.
 

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