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The Choice Competition Thread
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Sam Magic
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DinoInstitute
Well-Known Member
@judges As far as the sentence limit goes, what counts as a sentence? For example if we have labels like "Backstory" or "Ride Through" would those count? Also, would something like this count as one or two?: "Scene 2: Guests ride in vehicle"
The labels wouldn't count, and the second one would count as 1 sentence
Sam Magic
Well-Known Member
TEAM SAM PRESENTS:
In 2018 Epcot Center will welcome an exciting new Pavilion based on the history and beauty of the ocean.This new Pavilion will inspire and encourage all guests to learn more about the sea and world around them. Within in the walls of this whimsical pavilion will be a new attraction and a restaurant, but an entirely new theme park experience.
The restaurant, King Triton’s Gala, will allow guests to dine like underwater Royalty. This restaurant will feature unique dishes and experiences that will tell the story of the Little Mermaid.
MENUE:
Appetizers:
Sebastian's Crab Cakes
Gaston's Mussels (I know Gaston isn't a sea character, but I think the pun is quite enjoyable)
Not So Shrimpy: A Delicious Plate of Shrimp Scampy
Main Course:
Bruce's "Fish Are Food" Sandwich: A Cod Sandwich
Captain Hook's Fish of the Day: Ask your server what special fish you can get today!
Turf Without the Surf (This is meant to be a play on words for people who don't like seafood or have a shellfish allergy...like myself...
Dessert:
Ariel's Delight: Yellow Cake with Seashell Decorations
Fun in the Sand: Key Lime Pie (since the graham cracker resembles the sand)
Our main attraction will be an exciting journey through the ancient city of Atlantis
Pavilion Design:Here are some pictures I thought for items to be added to the attraction.
Below are some images for the new queue if we are going for the mythological approach. I figure the ride could talk about this land and how it was lost. Then the the end of the ride and show could take place as if we are in a new colony that was built under the sea where humans can now live. I think this could be cool as it brings technology which future world is all about but keeps the seas still kid friendly. For the show I was thinking we could get Bill Nye and James Cameron as he has done a lot of exploration of the ocean including going to the deepest part.
For the ride we enter walk into the former beach scene and boat dat scene which are now the ruins of the outside of atlantis. As we walk we see that temple which leads us into the load scene.
The temple in this will be the entrance into the next scene. I also would like to have the the roof covered in screens that will project the ocean and fish to make it feel like we are walking on the bottom of the ocean floor.
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Next is the load area it will be the palace area:
The ride will talk about the wonders of the sea as well as the mytholigical side as well. I really like the giant squid idea taking the place of the jelly fish scene
I would also like to incorporate a new scenes with mermaids that don't look like your average mermaid.
Hoping these ideas help a little
I imagine this is what the out of what the new inside would look like as if we are now studying the ocean from an actual colony perspective. So maybe the storyline could be that we must understand out past before we look to the future. So we enter the sea and we see the ruins of the life under the sea prior was. We see the land of atlantis and all the creatures that now inhabit. As we leave the new attraction to head to the new living seas area it is like we are now in the scientific part. This is where new research for conservation as well as living in the sea will be talked about. Including the new show Mysteries of the Deep. A more in depth look of the places we have yet to reach and places we thought we couldn't reach and have as well as some of the fauna and flora that people might not know. When people leave it is to give them a better understanding of Ocean Research instead of the attraction just being a ride through aquarium. What do you think.
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TheOriginalTiki
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I'd like to apologize, as this is the only content my team was able to provide this round. Another example of the learning curve that comes with the game's new format, I guess...
"The coral reef. Teeming with life. The reef's numerous inhabitants include the clown fish (a clown fish swims by at 7:00), few species of octopus (an octopus swims up at 4:00), and even some turtles (a turtle swims around from 1:00 and back)."
The camera leaves the reef to an empty sea.
"As wonderful these wonders of nature, they are in danger. (A ship horn sounds and an anchor drops at 8:00). Man. They catch over 200 billion pounds of sea life per year. Over 8 million tons of trash are thrown into the ocean each year. And 706 million gallons of oil are dumped each year. (The water begins too turn black, as we follow a soda can traveling at 3:00)."
The can stops in shallow water at a beach, and a hand picks it up. The camera backs out to reveal people cleaning the beach.
"But there is hope. As man figures out the errors of their ways, they look to resolve it. Thousands of marine life are saved each year from the threat of pollution. The future is bright, and that is the greatest wonder of all."
The camera pans out, and the screen goes black to reveal the title.
![](http://"The coral reef. Teeming with life. The reef's numerous inhabitants include the clown fish (a clown fish swims by at 7:00), few species of octopus (an octopus swims up at 4:00), and even some turtles (a turtle swims around from 1:00 and back)." The camera leaves the reef to an empty sea. "As wonderful these wonders of nature, they are in danger. (A ship horn sounds and an anchor drops at 8:00). Man. They catch over 200 billion pounds of sea life per year. Over 8 million tons of trash are thrown into the ocean each year. And 706 million gallons of oil are dumped each year. (The water begins too turn black, as we follow a soda can traveling at 3:00)." The can stops in shallow water at a beach, and a hand picks it up. The camera backs out to reveal people cleaning the beach. "But there is hope. As man figures out the errors of their ways, they look to resolve it. Thousands of marine life are saved each year from the threat of pollution. The future is bright, and that is the greatest wonder of all." The camera pans out, and the screen goes black to reveal the title.)
Oceans: The World Under
Oceans: The World Under will be a 4D show replacing Turtle Talk with Crush that welcomes viewers to explore the oceans of the world in a new interactive way. The show will be in a new CircleVision 4D theater. In this new theater, up to 50 guests will be seated in CircleVision seats. As the movie plays around the room 360 degrees, guests can turn their seats with a joystick on the left armrest. To make this possible, the theater will be slightly expanded to accommodate the new theater upgrades.
The Show
The show opens with a sunset shot above a clear ocean.
"Over half of the world is water. And most of that water, are the four oceans. The Atlantic (a quarter of the screen's water vibrates), The Pacific (another quarter vibrates), The Arctic (same), and the Indian (same). For centuries, we have wondered what lies under the sea. And today, we are happy to present Oceans: The World Under."
The camera dives into the ocean.
"Oceans, they are home to some of natures most interesting creatures. (A small group of tropical fish swim up at the 9:00 spot on the screen and swim clockwise to 4:00 during the narration). These fish for example. They travel in groups, called 'schools'. It helps them keep warm, as well as defend themselves from some of natures most vicious creatures. (A shark swims in at 12:00 and swims clockwise to 9:00 during the narration). Great White Sharks. Some of natures greatest hunters. They tend to hunt alone, coining the term 'lone-shark'. Still, the great beasts are some of nature's finest creatures."
The camera moves forward to a coral reef.
Oceans: The World Under will be a 4D show replacing Turtle Talk with Crush that welcomes viewers to explore the oceans of the world in a new interactive way. The show will be in a new CircleVision 4D theater. In this new theater, up to 50 guests will be seated in CircleVision seats. As the movie plays around the room 360 degrees, guests can turn their seats with a joystick on the left armrest. To make this possible, the theater will be slightly expanded to accommodate the new theater upgrades.
The Show
The show opens with a sunset shot above a clear ocean.
"Over half of the world is water. And most of that water, are the four oceans. The Atlantic (a quarter of the screen's water vibrates), The Pacific (another quarter vibrates), The Arctic (same), and the Indian (same). For centuries, we have wondered what lies under the sea. And today, we are happy to present Oceans: The World Under."
The camera dives into the ocean.
"Oceans, they are home to some of natures most interesting creatures. (A small group of tropical fish swim up at the 9:00 spot on the screen and swim clockwise to 4:00 during the narration). These fish for example. They travel in groups, called 'schools'. It helps them keep warm, as well as defend themselves from some of natures most vicious creatures. (A shark swims in at 12:00 and swims clockwise to 9:00 during the narration). Great White Sharks. Some of natures greatest hunters. They tend to hunt alone, coining the term 'lone-shark'. Still, the great beasts are some of nature's finest creatures."
The camera moves forward to a coral reef.
"The coral reef. Teeming with life. The reef's numerous inhabitants include the clown fish (a clown fish swims by at 7:00), few species of octopus (an octopus swims up at 4:00), and even some turtles (a turtle swims around from 1:00 and back)."
The camera leaves the reef to an empty sea.
"As wonderful these wonders of nature, they are in danger. (A ship horn sounds and an anchor drops at 8:00). Man. They catch over 200 billion pounds of sea life per year. Over 8 million tons of trash are thrown into the ocean each year. And 706 million gallons of oil are dumped each year. (The water begins too turn black, as we follow a soda can traveling at 3:00)."
The can stops in shallow water at a beach, and a hand picks it up. The camera backs out to reveal people cleaning the beach.
"But there is hope. As man figures out the errors of their ways, they look to resolve it. Thousands of marine life are saved each year from the threat of pollution. The future is bright, and that is the greatest wonder of all."
The camera pans out, and the screen goes black to reveal the title.
DinoInstitute
Well-Known Member
Note- our team advisor @MonorailRed was busy this evening, and therefore I will be posting on her behalf
Challenge 2- I Sea a New Pavilion
@MonorailRed's Team
The Seas with Nemo and Friends is one of the most frustrating and disliked refurbishments among die hard fans in all of Disney history, taking some of the greatest edutainment and shoving an IP in there. While the ride isn't horrible, the fact that it continued to strip away Epcot's message was the worst part. However, this refurbishment will change that, with the return of The Living Seas!
The pavilion will get a complete overhaul inside and out, with virtually no trace of any aquatic IP's anywhere.
The interior will look completely refreshed, and with tanks all around you (with fish created by similar projection technology as in the Nemo ride), you will feel much more immersed in the theme that you are in the living, breathing, seas.
Backstory:
After the 2006 refurbishment to The Living Seas, Poseidon, the king of the oceans, was furious that his kingdom was made to look like a cartoon. He eventually decided to take over this part of Walt Disney World to make sure it got fixed. Luckily for everyone, The Walt Disney Company allowed him to do what ever he wanted with the pavilion. The end result- an amazing tour around the world's seas and oceans!
Ride Through:
Load Area: Remains unchanged from its days as a Finding Nemo attraction.
Scene 1: Replaces Opening. Pacific Ocean with sharks and fish.
Scene 2: Replaces Jellyfish. Riders pass through a sunken submarine, acting as a transition into next scene.
Scene 3: Replaces Anglerfish. Indian Ocean scene in which some sort of scary sea creature appears and attacks the riders, who are saved by a great white shark.
Scene 4: Replaces Bruce and Sharks. Atlantic Ocean with manatees, whales, sea lions, catfish, and sea turtles.
Scene 5: Replaces East Australian Current. Arctic Ocean featuring a pod of beluga whales and seals.
Scene 6: Replaces "Big Blue World" finale. Mythical sea creatures such as a sea serpent and mermaids are projected with real fish.
Scuba Talk:
As this pavilion's theme is that you are under the sea with the fish, the new show replacement will allow you to communicate with a scuba diver currently in the water that can tell you all about the sea, plant life, and fish- a fun, interactive, and educational experience for the whole family
All in all, this pavilion has a lot to offer, with a significantly updated ride that more truly fits Epcot's mission, a new show replacement, and overall updated theming/decor. Thank you for reading our submission, and remember, there's so much to 'sea' in the Living Seas!
Challenge 2- I Sea a New Pavilion
@MonorailRed's Team
The Seas with Nemo and Friends is one of the most frustrating and disliked refurbishments among die hard fans in all of Disney history, taking some of the greatest edutainment and shoving an IP in there. While the ride isn't horrible, the fact that it continued to strip away Epcot's message was the worst part. However, this refurbishment will change that, with the return of The Living Seas!
The pavilion will get a complete overhaul inside and out, with virtually no trace of any aquatic IP's anywhere.
The interior will look completely refreshed, and with tanks all around you (with fish created by similar projection technology as in the Nemo ride), you will feel much more immersed in the theme that you are in the living, breathing, seas.
Backstory:
After the 2006 refurbishment to The Living Seas, Poseidon, the king of the oceans, was furious that his kingdom was made to look like a cartoon. He eventually decided to take over this part of Walt Disney World to make sure it got fixed. Luckily for everyone, The Walt Disney Company allowed him to do what ever he wanted with the pavilion. The end result- an amazing tour around the world's seas and oceans!
Ride Through:
Load Area: Remains unchanged from its days as a Finding Nemo attraction.
Scene 1: Replaces Opening. Pacific Ocean with sharks and fish.
Scene 2: Replaces Jellyfish. Riders pass through a sunken submarine, acting as a transition into next scene.
Scene 3: Replaces Anglerfish. Indian Ocean scene in which some sort of scary sea creature appears and attacks the riders, who are saved by a great white shark.
Scene 4: Replaces Bruce and Sharks. Atlantic Ocean with manatees, whales, sea lions, catfish, and sea turtles.
Scene 5: Replaces East Australian Current. Arctic Ocean featuring a pod of beluga whales and seals.
Scene 6: Replaces "Big Blue World" finale. Mythical sea creatures such as a sea serpent and mermaids are projected with real fish.
Scuba Talk:
As this pavilion's theme is that you are under the sea with the fish, the new show replacement will allow you to communicate with a scuba diver currently in the water that can tell you all about the sea, plant life, and fish- a fun, interactive, and educational experience for the whole family
All in all, this pavilion has a lot to offer, with a significantly updated ride that more truly fits Epcot's mission, a new show replacement, and overall updated theming/decor. Thank you for reading our submission, and remember, there's so much to 'sea' in the Living Seas!
Team @englanddg do you have anything to submit?
Voxel
President of Progress City
I sadly will not be able to give any reviews tonight unless someone want to help me Show that TSP is NP-complete. [Hint: Make a polynomial-time reduction from HAMCYCLE to TSP.] 
There will be results tonight( I believe along with the other reviews), but my review will just be delayed.
There will be results tonight( I believe along with the other reviews), but my review will just be delayed.
Voxel
President of Progress City
No one is volunteering to help me solve NP. Dang.I sadly will not be able to give any reviews tonight unless someone want to help me Show that TSP is NP-complete. [Hint: Make a polynomial-time reduction from HAMCYCLE to TSP.]
MCParradox
Well-Known Member
We've got a few pieces of concept art, and some rough ideas, but nothing's actually presented yet... (I'm posting on behalf of @englanddg by the way, I don't believe he's here at the moment).
(In the diagram, the blue line is the ride path, the red is the ride queue, and green is the entrance path a guest would take into the pavilion)
The concept for the ride was an expedition to seek out a giant phospholuminescent squid, featuring basic EMV subs that could rise and fall, pitch and roll to add some motion to the ride. It would feature a pre ride briefing room that would take over module 1A. We also had an updated version of the original Living Seas intro film in the remaining theatre, and new entrance and exit hydrolators. Finally, replacing Turtle Talk would be a simulator type experience wherein a diving tank is lowered into open waters and surrounded by sharks, possibly including some real animals. The pavilion would return to the undersea research base theme, and adopt the name SeaBase Beta, with the pavilion itself returning to the name of "The Living Seas".
The concept for the ride was an expedition to seek out a giant phospholuminescent squid, featuring basic EMV subs that could rise and fall, pitch and roll to add some motion to the ride. It would feature a pre ride briefing room that would take over module 1A. We also had an updated version of the original Living Seas intro film in the remaining theatre, and new entrance and exit hydrolators. Finally, replacing Turtle Talk would be a simulator type experience wherein a diving tank is lowered into open waters and surrounded by sharks, possibly including some real animals. The pavilion would return to the undersea research base theme, and adopt the name SeaBase Beta, with the pavilion itself returning to the name of "The Living Seas".
Team @Sam4D23:
I was extremely disappointed by this submission. It broke a couple of the rules set for this challenge (No IP's, over 20 sentences, & no show replacement) and the bulk of it was designated to a menu which was not required. The ideas for the ride were nice, but that's what they were, just ideas. I understand that there wasn't very much help, but there should still be a complete project. It was sloppily thrown together, and it disappointed me.
Team @TheOriginalTiki:
Like the previous team, you also broke the 20 sentence limit, but at least you had some of the requirements. I thoroughly enjoyed the show though, and the art was very nice. It is unfortunate that there was no description of the ride that the art went with though.
Team @MonorailRed:
I salute your group that you reached all requirements. The ride and show were good enough, but neither really jumped out to me. I also was not a big fan of the backstory, and thought it was cringe worthy to be totally honest. But besides that, nothing to knock really, good job!
Team @englanddg:
I have to salute @MCParradox for making more spectacular artwork. That's about all I can say, you have nothing else. I liked what I saw in your PM, but none of that was proposed. This submission was also very disappointing.
I was extremely disappointed by this submission. It broke a couple of the rules set for this challenge (No IP's, over 20 sentences, & no show replacement) and the bulk of it was designated to a menu which was not required. The ideas for the ride were nice, but that's what they were, just ideas. I understand that there wasn't very much help, but there should still be a complete project. It was sloppily thrown together, and it disappointed me.
Team @TheOriginalTiki:
Like the previous team, you also broke the 20 sentence limit, but at least you had some of the requirements. I thoroughly enjoyed the show though, and the art was very nice. It is unfortunate that there was no description of the ride that the art went with though.
Team @MonorailRed:
I salute your group that you reached all requirements. The ride and show were good enough, but neither really jumped out to me. I also was not a big fan of the backstory, and thought it was cringe worthy to be totally honest. But besides that, nothing to knock really, good job!
Team @englanddg:
I have to salute @MCParradox for making more spectacular artwork. That's about all I can say, you have nothing else. I liked what I saw in your PM, but none of that was proposed. This submission was also very disappointing.
spacemt354
Chili's
Team Sam:
Thanks for getting it in on time despite the tough circumstances. It's not easy, but props for having a proposal. Throughout the brainstorming process it seemed like you couldn't hone in on what direction to go. Initially you were going more towards the scientific aspect of the Living Seas, and then went more mythological, but the presentation seemed to land somewhere amid both of those. I love the menu options for the new Coral Reef, but one of the instructions which you should have been told beforehand was that you couldn't use any IPs in the Pavilion. It's part of the learning curve of this new format of a competition, as will be evident throughout my reviews, but that's something that in the future, the coach or other contestants should inform each other about. Because the menu is great!
The ride concept is also pretty neat though for me, the biggest thing holding it back is the organizational aspect of it. The project feels slightly disjointed, but again, circumstances can only give you so much to work with. In all, my one piece of advice would be in to make sure the whole team is aware of the instructions of the challenge prompt (like the inclusion of a map and no-IPs, etc) If you can master that, I think you all will go far
Team Tiki
Nice proposal, as said before and you said it well Tiki, it's a learning curve, but each round everyone improves and gets more familiar with the requirements. I enjoyed the set up to the Oceans show, but I have a few questions mostly about how it is a 360 degree theater space. How does that change the layout of the space? Because (I've never been on Turtle Talk) but isn't it just a screen in front of people either sitting on the floor or (mostly parents) standing in the back? It's an awesome show, I'm just having trouble visualizing how it fits and how you enter it if the floor to ceiling screen wraps all around you. But the show itself was nice.
Awesome concept art for the ride! I was really impressed at the detail and design of it. I hope to see more stuff like that in the future! As for the rest...well, there wasn't anything, so that's something to work on in the future. Getting together and knocking stuff out early in a challenge so that it's not all last minute. The way you do that is to pick a topic and run with it. The less time (and this is advice for all teams) but the less time you spend debating on what topic you want, the better off your project will be. Trust me.
Team MonorailRed
Overall, a neat concept! I think the main factor that has been apparent with all teams is not only adjusting to the coach/player relationship, but also time-management and decision making. I liked the overall theme with Poseidon that you went with, I think it's an interesting twist on the Pavilion that has been converted from Science-oceanography based, to cartoon/fantasy, to now possibly mythical fantasy. Do I think a more science based aquatic pavilion fits better in future world? Yea, kinda...but that's not to say this can't be pulled off and pulled off well.
Concept art looks great and out of all the projects I think this is the most complete. Complete in the sense that it followed the instructions (25 sentence limit, no IPs, etc) and had descriptions for both a ride and a show. I do think some of the sentences could have been shaved off the introduction or the backstory to give more subtance to the ride/show, but it was a nice project and this team has a lot of potential going forward.
Team englanddg
Unfortunately, there wasn't anything to submit, but on the bright side, we got to see some awesome concept art! I would not hold your head down because if this team can hit their stride early, with this type of art, watch out in the future.
Thanks for getting it in on time despite the tough circumstances. It's not easy, but props for having a proposal. Throughout the brainstorming process it seemed like you couldn't hone in on what direction to go. Initially you were going more towards the scientific aspect of the Living Seas, and then went more mythological, but the presentation seemed to land somewhere amid both of those. I love the menu options for the new Coral Reef, but one of the instructions which you should have been told beforehand was that you couldn't use any IPs in the Pavilion. It's part of the learning curve of this new format of a competition, as will be evident throughout my reviews, but that's something that in the future, the coach or other contestants should inform each other about. Because the menu is great!
The ride concept is also pretty neat though for me, the biggest thing holding it back is the organizational aspect of it. The project feels slightly disjointed, but again, circumstances can only give you so much to work with. In all, my one piece of advice would be in to make sure the whole team is aware of the instructions of the challenge prompt (like the inclusion of a map and no-IPs, etc) If you can master that, I think you all will go far
Team Tiki
Nice proposal, as said before and you said it well Tiki, it's a learning curve, but each round everyone improves and gets more familiar with the requirements. I enjoyed the set up to the Oceans show, but I have a few questions mostly about how it is a 360 degree theater space. How does that change the layout of the space? Because (I've never been on Turtle Talk) but isn't it just a screen in front of people either sitting on the floor or (mostly parents) standing in the back? It's an awesome show, I'm just having trouble visualizing how it fits and how you enter it if the floor to ceiling screen wraps all around you. But the show itself was nice.
Awesome concept art for the ride! I was really impressed at the detail and design of it. I hope to see more stuff like that in the future! As for the rest...well, there wasn't anything, so that's something to work on in the future. Getting together and knocking stuff out early in a challenge so that it's not all last minute. The way you do that is to pick a topic and run with it. The less time (and this is advice for all teams) but the less time you spend debating on what topic you want, the better off your project will be. Trust me.
Team MonorailRed
Overall, a neat concept! I think the main factor that has been apparent with all teams is not only adjusting to the coach/player relationship, but also time-management and decision making. I liked the overall theme with Poseidon that you went with, I think it's an interesting twist on the Pavilion that has been converted from Science-oceanography based, to cartoon/fantasy, to now possibly mythical fantasy. Do I think a more science based aquatic pavilion fits better in future world? Yea, kinda...but that's not to say this can't be pulled off and pulled off well.
Concept art looks great and out of all the projects I think this is the most complete. Complete in the sense that it followed the instructions (25 sentence limit, no IPs, etc) and had descriptions for both a ride and a show. I do think some of the sentences could have been shaved off the introduction or the backstory to give more subtance to the ride/show, but it was a nice project and this team has a lot of potential going forward.
Team englanddg
Unfortunately, there wasn't anything to submit, but on the bright side, we got to see some awesome concept art! I would not hold your head down because if this team can hit their stride early, with this type of art, watch out in the future.
Congrats to Team @MonorailRed on winning yet again. Your all around complete proposal is what gave you the win. Red, you will be able to help your team again this round.
Originally, we were planning on having one person eliminated from the losing team, but the circumstances have changed. Due to an unprecedented level of inactivity on Team @Sam4D23, his team is being disbanded. The only two active members, @DisneyPrincess1993 and @GMR710 will be saved, with them going to Team @englanddg and Team @TheOriginalTiki, respectively. The remainder, @Simon Sulk, @Twilight_Roxas and @brb1006 are all eliminated. If for some reason an advisor wants to save one of them, let me know within the next 24 hours. Also, @Tony the Tigger of Team Englanddg decided to leave the competition on good terms. @Sam4D23 will become a co-advisor with Team @englanddg effective immediately. Challenge 3 will be up shortly.
Originally, we were planning on having one person eliminated from the losing team, but the circumstances have changed. Due to an unprecedented level of inactivity on Team @Sam4D23, his team is being disbanded. The only two active members, @DisneyPrincess1993 and @GMR710 will be saved, with them going to Team @englanddg and Team @TheOriginalTiki, respectively. The remainder, @Simon Sulk, @Twilight_Roxas and @brb1006 are all eliminated. If for some reason an advisor wants to save one of them, let me know within the next 24 hours. Also, @Tony the Tigger of Team Englanddg decided to leave the competition on good terms. @Sam4D23 will become a co-advisor with Team @englanddg effective immediately. Challenge 3 will be up shortly.
Challenge 3
A Universal Overhaul
This challenge we will be going someplace different, traveling to thesunny skies of southern California deep within the San Fernando Valley to visit Universal Studios: Hollywood.
First opened as a movie studio in 1915 and then as a theme park in 1964, Universal Studios: Hollywood is one of the most unique theme parks in the country. It has some high points such as the hour long Studio Tour, but also has some lows, most notable of which may be the lack of attractions, or to some people, the fact that the park is actually on two levels separated by steep escalators.
Over the last few years however, the park has expanded to include Transformers: The Ride, Despicable Me, The Simpsons, and soon The Wizarding World of Harry Potter in 2016.
Your job is to continue the expansion and renovation.
In your teams, your task is to design a 5 year expansion plan for the park and surrounding area.
Here's some tips to help:
- Start your 5 year plan after the completion of Harry Potter in 2016.
- Focus not only on new attractions, but also the layout, design, overall theme, etc. Keep City-Walk or not? Change the parking structure? Escalators or not? Everything about the location is up for grabs to change if you wish.
- There are no limits to the attractions, shops, restaurants, and so on that you wish to add or replace, but your proposal must include detailed descriptions of two new additions. The rest can be listed in your 5 year plan with a brief overview of each.
- If you're not familiar with the park, it might be good to do some research on it to familiarize yourself, but you really don't need much. This should help get you started http://www.universalstudioshollywood.com/park-map/
Project is due Saturday October 3rd at 8PM EST. Allow me 5 minutes to start PM's.
DinoInstitute
Well-Known Member
Can you post the new teams? (There was a lot going on in that post and I'm a bit confused
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spacemt354
Chili's
Yep! New TeamsCan you post the new teams? (There was a lot going on in that post and I'm a bit confused
Team englanddg/Sam
MCParradox
orlando678-
mickeyfan5534
David2319
DisneyPrincess1993
Team MonorailRed
IDInstitute
RMichael21
Flippin'Flounder
Perry2x2
Brer Panther
Team Tiki
ScorpionX
mharrington
Doodlyday
ctxak98
GMR710
DSquared
spacemt354
Chili's
There's a little less than 24 hours till the due date
A few quick suggestions for the teams, if you're finding it tough to divide up work or to narrow down your ideas with so many possibilities...pick two ideas and run with them.
The challenge prompt says you need "detailed descriptions of two new additions." The rest can be simply listed. There's no limit to how much detail you put into those extra items, the more the merrier, but the challenge only asks for details of two items.
Good Luck with the rest of the challenge!
A few quick suggestions for the teams, if you're finding it tough to divide up work or to narrow down your ideas with so many possibilities...pick two ideas and run with them.
The challenge prompt says you need "detailed descriptions of two new additions." The rest can be simply listed. There's no limit to how much detail you put into those extra items, the more the merrier, but the challenge only asks for details of two items.
Good Luck with the rest of the challenge!
TheOriginalTiki
Well-Known Member
Team Tiki's Five Year Plan
2017: Seussville and Geisel Park
This brand new land at Universal Studio Hollywood will be located at the edge of the upper lot next to Minion Mayhem. This will be one of the most comprehensive areas in the park and will feature three distinct areas..."Mulberry Street" which is themed to the iconic Seuss book and will play host to the wacky suburban house in which the Cat in the Hat dark ride takes place; Geisel Park in which guests can find a relaxed yet still zany atmosphere complete with several calm family flat rides, and WhoVille which is home to the Mount Crumpet Bobsleds...the tentpole "E Ticket" of this new expansion.
Located in the Whoville subsection at the back of Seussville, this mountain is the home of the Grinch! This actually a spoof of Disneyland's Matterhorn, complete with bad Swiss music and even worse yodeling heard as you approach the mountain. Also, if you look really hard, you can see Whos scaling the mountain. The queue takes you through Whoville en route to the mountain, similar to Expedition Everest, which similarly takes you through structures en route to the mountain.
Once at the load area, you climb into a ramshackle bobsled for a thrilling trip through the Grinch's lair.
The ride starts with the Grinch on his way down into Whoville to steal Christmas as you climb up the mountain. As you climb the lift hill, you spot some of the monsters from the Grinch's Paraphernalia Wagon (from "Halloween Is Grinch Night"):
Once at the top of the lift hill, you go through the ride where the Grinch makes ready to go down to Whoville to steal Christmas. Along the way, you get some views of his lair/blueprints for evil inventions, plans etc., including at least one or two shout-outs to "The Grinch Grinches the Cat In the Hat". And, in a further parody of the Matterhorn, the Grinch substitutes for the Abominable Snowman, trying to scare you off. At another point, another parody of the Matterhorn is spotted during the ride: the Grinch's crashed sleigh substituting for the Wells Expedition gear.
For the climax, you reach the very top of the mountain, where you again meet up with the Grinch as he's having his "heart grew three sizes" moment, complete with a physical heart monitor, like so:
As that happens, the Grinch, with "the strength of ten Grinches, plus two", lifts his sleigh in the air in a climactic moment...
...after which you speed down the mountain and join him in Whoville for the finale, involving the Whos' feast, where "he... HE HIMSELF...! The Grinch carved the roast beast!"
At the end of Mulberry Street is the house of the kids from "The Cat In the Hat". This is where the Cat In the Hat ride will take place, not in a tent adorned with a giant hat, as in Florida.
Also located at the end of Mulberry Street are Sylvester McMonkey McBean's Very Unusual Driving Machines. You ride in silly, Seussian cars for a crazy car ride through the world of Dr. Seuss. At one point, you travel across the highway that passes over the two Zax who are left standing unbudged in their tracks. At another point, you drive onto a tree branch which is also holding up the car from "Green Eggs and Ham" ("You may like them. You will see. You may like them in a tree!" and "I would not, could not in a tree. Not in a car! You let me be.").
Being as it is themed to a character from "The Sneetches", you also travel through the wacky Star-On and -Off machines, similar to the Sneetches cartoon (sample of the Star-Off machine can be found here, from 7:53 to 8:36):
The climax of the ride takes you into space, along the Hoober-Bloob Highway. A sample of this can be found in the commercial below (starting at 0:30):
Geisel Park will have iconic trees such as truffulas (from "The Lorax") and zinniga-zannigas (from "The Rabbit, the Bear and the Zinniga-Zanniga"). For those of you who don't know about that story, it can be found in a newer book called "The Bippolo Seed and Other Lost Stories". Here's the story for that:
Here's a brief rundown of Seussville,, plus a few new additions, to make the area more complete:
ATTRACTIONS:
- Caro-Seuss-el: Located in Geisel Park, this is a double-decker carousel with a twist - the animals are all Seussian animals.
- The Cat In The Hat: Located at the end of Mulberry Street, a dark ride through the story of "The Cat In The Hat".
- Horton's Elephant Birds: Located in the Seussville park, in this Dumbo-type flying attraction, ride in giant elephant birds from "Horton Hatches the Egg".
- Mount Crumpet Bobsleds: Located in the Whoville subsection, travel on ramshackle bobsleds through the Grinch's mountain lair, but watch out for the Grinch!
- Sylvester McMonkey McBean's Very Unusual Driving Machines: Located on Mulberry Street, a racing ride along the roads and highways of Dr. Seuss, through the Star-On and Star-Off Machines and culminating in a race in the stratosphere, along the Hoober-Bloob Highway.
- Tweetle Beetle Paddle Battle: Located in the Seussville park, based on arguably the most iconic part of "Fox In Socks", spin about in giant Tweetle Beetles, but be careful - they wield giant paddles and know how to use them! (Don't worry, they miss!)
- The Wocket In My Pocket Fun House: Located at the end of Mulberry Street, a fun house themed to "There's a Wocket In My Pocket".
- Casa Casatta: The restaurant from "The Grinch Grinches the Cat In the Hat" comes to life.
- Sam-I-Am's: A fast food spot that serves - you guessed it! - Green Eggs and Ham.
- Hop On Pop Ice Cream Shop: An ice cream parlor and soda fountain.
- Mulberry Street Emporium: The biggest store in Seussville, located at the start of Mulberry Street, obviously, selling all manner of merchandise from the world of Dr. Seuss.
- Cats 'n' Hats 'n' Things: A clothing store themed to "The Cat In The Hat".
- Whoville Mercantile: Located in the Whoville subsection, after your ride on the Mount Crumpet Bobselds. One whole section of the store sells Christmas items - ornaments, stockings, toys and more, all with a Seussian twist.
2018: Jurassic World Lower Lot Expansion
In the second year of our massive universal expansion we will be opening up a major new land to coincide with the release of Jurassic World 2. This new land will give you a more immersive feel that the old ride could never have done.
As you descend from the escalator you will be greeted by the above gate welcoming you to the new land. Crossing through the gate on the left side of the land you will see that during the expansion the mummy ride has been demolished. In its place rises the Jurassic World Welcome center.
Room 1:
Room 2 and 3: Cyro Labs
Room 4: Control Center
Attractions:
Jurassic World River Adventure:
The original attraction will get a major overhaul as well as some new construction and scenes to really bring the story to life. Some elements will remain others will be taken out completely and we will open with a whole new experience. The story begins as you will be going on one of Jurassic Worlds newest attraction. You enter through a more lush queue as though you are walking through the jungles of costa rica. You will get on boats which will be repainted to reflect the new theme of the land. Bryce Dallas Howard will be your guide and doing the voice over work during the attraction.
You will go up the the first lift to the first scene that will get a major upgrade. All the dinosaurs will be taken out an replaced with stay of the art dinosaurs that could almost pass for being real. Next you will hear the voice of Bryce telling you that you be passing there newest attraction the Indominus Rex. As you pass the paddock the Rex will charge out and appear to start charging at your boat. This will cause your boat to crash through a new gate and throw you off course. As you get through the gate you will get whooshed up the hill.
This is a complete redesign as the hill will be moved over to where the boat where the floating Mickey ears were. There will no longer be a building look to it but more of the jungle feel. Now you go up the new hill upon arriving at the top you will see the crushed gryosphere and then you pass the military van. Just as it seems to quit the Rex pops out on the side on the jungle and comes almost close enough to touch the boat and your boat goes down the Waterfall just like in the film this is also where you picture will get taken.
Once at the bottom you see the river goes through this old looking building. As you enter you will see that this is the old welcome center of the original Jurassic Park. You will come face to face with the I. Rex one last time. As you leave the building you hear Bryce come over the speaker telling you they found a path here to get you back on track. You go through another gate where as you head to the exit you pass a few more of the new dinosaurs. As you exit you hear Bryce telling you not to worry they have everything under control and enjoy the rest of Jurassic World.
So you see that we will be keeping some of the original scenes but there will be some major reconstruction of the ride for the new scenes and the old scenes will get major upgrades. So it will feel like a completely new attraction.
Below are some pictures of the last scene of the old welcome center:
Our final two attractions for this land will be going to the back of the river adventure and to the side of the Terminator attraction this is a new piece of land that will be expanding the park as well. This will give this corner a little more for guests to do.
Jurassic Petting Zoo:
In between the new indoor coaster and the river adventure we will be having a small area for the kids. Here they will be able to pet dinos as well as ride a few like above. This will be all new state or the art animatronics that will have the kids believing that the actually saw a dinosaur.
Gyrosphere coaster:
Also getting added and is the final piece to our Jurassic World land will be the Gyrosphere coaster. This ride will focus more on the newer films and will be able to adjust depending on the future of the series. Since we are taking out the new 3-d Kong in the studio tour I thought the technology would greatly help in this ride.
The queue will be set up like the one in the film where it is outside and you our one the plain of the area. There will be five gyrospheres connected together so 10 people can get on the coaster at one time. You will put on you 3-D glasses and just like in the film you tour guide will be that of Chris Pratt. You will enter the ride building and the screens will already be playing the great valley area where you see the herbivore dinosaurs. Everything seems to be going well the dinosaurs are walking so close and even over your. You then hear Prat say something is wrong the invisible force field is down. This is where the coaster takes on the more thrilling aspect. As your cars get hit by clubtails you spin out of control when you finally see where you are at your cars smash through the glass the aviary. He they flying dinosaurs start to attack to Pratt takes controls from the booth. He is able to get you out of there but you are so far off course he thinks that he has found the road but you end up right in front of the water arena where the Mosasaurus jumps up and tries to get at you. Pratt is finally able to get you back in control and you got down a steep drop back to the valley where you finish up the ride before docking back at the end.
The Park is Open 2018
2019: Overhauled Studio Tour
Part of Universal Hollywood's 5 year expansion will be an update to the world famous studio tour.
The queue will be themed to something like a Universal museum. It features many props from movies not in the tour. These include some of the classic Universal Monsters, Despicable Me, Ted, Gladiator, Apollo 13, and 2 whole sections dedicated to the Fast and the Furious, and Jurassic park franchises.
There are many new additions to the studio tour that optimize the experience and build upon the rich history of Universal Studios. Some of these additions include:
- New pyrotechnics to the Jaws scene, as well as a new audio animtronic Jaws that strikes fear into guests,and even inches up to the tour trams!
- An upgrade to the classic Bates Motel features a shadow of Norma in a window, as well as shrieks and the faint sound of running water in a room. These additions add a new immersive element to this scene in the tram tour.
- The Mummy set gets some new updates, as well as some new lighting effects. These updates are basic, but still add a new immersion since the Mummy ride will be removed.
- The Earthquake set will be replaced with a much more iconic one... E.T.! The new set is themed to the final half of the movie. Like the classic bike chase, the trams make many run-ins with cop cars through the neighborhood. Overhead is a projection of the moon with the iconic scene with E.T. and Elliot flying on the bike. The set ends with a spaceship, and E.T. saying goodbye.
- The speed tunnel for new attractions has been scrapped in favor of one of the most iconic Universal franchises... King Kong! Much like the classic Kong soundstage that burned down over a decade ago this set is themed to a city being wrecked by Kong. At the end, Kong rampages and grabs the tram complete with much more realistic simulated movement in the return of this beloved character!
Due to the limited space at Universal Studios Hollywood, a full blown second park complete with an expansion to The Wizarding World of Harry Potter is simply out of the question. With that said, we at Team Tiki still wanted to give Hollywood guests a taste of the more complete experience over at Orlando that includes the famous Hogwarts Express as a legit mode of transportation outside the main park to a new Potter themed land.
With that in mind, we decided to open up a full blown Diagon Alley expansion to Universal CityWalk. Expanded back from the far end of the shopping/dining complex and using Kings Cross as a transitioning point, Diagon Alley will recreate all the same shops and dining experiences guests can find at the Universal Orlando counterpart including Weasley's Wizard Wheezes joke shop and Florean Fortescue's Ice Cream Parlour.
While it would be a logistical nightmare to put a full blown E Ticket attraction into a CityWalk, guests of this Diagon Alley can still get a tour of the world famous Gringotts Bank. Every hour a tour guide will take groups of guests down into the vaults of the bank, complete with a more elaborate and spread out version of the Escape From Gringotts queue (including the impressive elevator effect) as well as an extended walk through tour of the Gringotts mine with an AA dragon waiting for you at the end. Speaking of dragons, the one famously perched on the Gringotts building in Orlando will be recreated for this Diagon Alley...only this time the dragon will come complete with realistic wing, neck, and mouth movements as well as sound effects of roars and the familiar pyrotechnic fire breath.
While this expansion isn't quiet as grand scale as the Orlando counterpart, we hope it's a good substitute considering the limited space in Hollywood, and makes the Potter experience more complete. We'd also like to encourage potential Imagineers looking to expand the Potter land inside the park to take queues from other parts of the Potter lore so that the need for an Escape from Gringotts clone doesn't exist.
2021: The Return of Back to the Future
For the final phase of our five year plan we decided to create a brand new E Ticket attraction out of the much loved and missed Back to the Future franchise. As time has gone on since the original ride's closure the fanbase around the original trilogy has only grown stronger and stronger (plus, current Adult Swim show "Rick and Morty" has brought a new attention to the characters by presented a twisted parody of Doc and Marty's relationship...) While it'd be impossible to revert The Simpsons back into Doc Brown Labs due to the Springfield expansion, we figured the franchise needed something bigger and better in the first place.
With that in mind we set our sites on the Water World stadium as well as some surrounding area. While Water World has been a shockingly popular show for many years in spite of the turkey of a movie it's based on, we all agreed that most people would take a new Back to the Future ride over a decades old show based on a forgotten movie any day of the week. Using all new technology which combines projection mapping with Peter Pan's Flight style model fly-overs, and a brand new inverted Enhanced Motion Vehicle to simulate the bumpy flight of the DeLoreon, were please to present our trip back...To the Future!
Upon getting in line for the new Back to the Future: The Ride!, guests see the facade is a replica of Doc Brown's house from the first movie. Once guests enter the house, they go through a museum dedicated to Doc Brown's life and inventions. In the living room is an AA Einstein fast asleep on the couch.
Down the stairs they go into a secret garage filled with dozens of makeshift time machines, among them the famous DeLorean, the train from the third movie, a vessel with a resemblance to a Chinese junk, and a gyrocopter with a flux capacitor. It is here that the pre-show begins.
On the overhead monitors, a found-footage-type video plays explaining how the Institute of Future Technology went bankrupt, so Doc Brown had to fund future time travel adventures himself and move the essential facilities to his home. The video is buzzed out, and the frizzy black-and-white screen from older TVs are seen.
The screens go back to normal, but we see Biff telling us how he discovered the garage, and is "takin' a little joyride" with one of the DeLoreans. It's now up to us to stop him. Each ride vehicle is a mix of an inverted coaster with slow sections that let you take in the scenery Peter Pan's Flight-style. They accelerate during the more thrilling scenes.
Some of the scenes are as follows:
-A chase scene through futuristic Hill Valley including the floating freeway and the 3D Jaws projection. And AAs on hoverboards...Mix of practical effects and projections (for the cars on the highway...). On the ride vehicles, the date will be shown as 30 years from the present. So, if you were to ride in 2019, the date would be shown as 2049.
-The alternate 1985 Hill Valley in a large room with a giant model of Biff's Casino. Below are AAs gambling at poker tables, slot machines, and the like. In one corner a Vegas-style cabaret is being performed. Sure enough, at the casino's front entrance, Biff's henchmen are kicking someone out "the hard way". This could be done Peter Pan's Flight-style.
-1955 Hill Valley, Enchantment Under the Sea dance. Lots of AAs dancing about, giving a similar visual to the ballroom scene in the Haunted Mansion. Clearly visible "future Marty" is sneaking around as current Marty is playing guitar on stage. If you look closely, you can see Doc Brown freaking out through a window.
-Another chase scene in 1955, ending in a collision with Biff's car and a manure truck in a freeway tunnel. Biff can be heard screaming, "I hate manure!"
-Wild West Hill Valley. Another Peter Pan's Flight style overview of a model, this scene depicts the night festival from the third movie. As the western version of "Double Back" is heard, Buford's gang can be seen causing trouble. Ride ends with the DeLorean Train taking us back to the present.
And with that we conclude our five year expansion plan for Universal Studios Hollywood. While the park might still have a long way to go and might never really feel like a full blown all day theme park like its Florida counterpart due to the naturally cumbersome layout, we hope these expansions go a long way towards making USH a true destination in its own right.
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Thank you very much to Team Tiki for submitting on time with a very nice proposal!
Matt is currently away, so reviews, results, and the new challenge will be coming from @Voxel and myself tonight.
For the rest of the teams, please try to assemble what you have and submit as soon as you can.
Thank you!
Thank you very much to Team Tiki for submitting on time with a very nice proposal!
Matt is currently away, so reviews, results, and the new challenge will be coming from @Voxel and myself tonight.
For the rest of the teams, please try to assemble what you have and submit as soon as you can.
Thank you!