The Brickers' Holi-Disney Christmas Vacation 2010 Pre-Trip Report

Planning for this trip began two days before we left for our honeymoon, when my parents informed Sarah and me that their wedding gift to us would be a trip with them to Walt Disney World at Christmas. Sarah and I had already figured we’d take a short trip down in early December, so this gave us the perfect excuse to make it official--and longer.

For those unfamiliar with us, we got engaged during Christmas Wishes! on the Beach of the Polynesian in 2007 and [url=”http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=616344”] went on our “Disneymoon” this summer following our wedding.[/url]. Between our engagement and Disneymoon, we took four additional trips to WDW in August 2008,
November/December 2008, August 2009 and October 2009. Since our Disneymoon, we took our [url=http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=647439] first trip to Disneyland![/url]

Phew, that’s a lot of trips.

The planning began almost immediately after we returned from that Disneymoon trip (actually, some of it was before we returned, as we began thinking about the Christmas trip on our last day to soften the blow of leaving).

Christmas is our favorite time of the year at Disney, and we hadn’t been at Christmas since 2008. I know that’s only one Christmas season missed, but it feels like forever ago. Here is a photo of us there from Christmas 2008:
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I don’t have any recent photos of my parents at Disney, so this will have to suffice. I’m sure they’ll be thrilled if/when they see these:
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Shortly after getting back from the Disneymoon, we made our ADRs. After eating far too many table service meals for our liking on the Disneymoon trip, we decided that we would not be doing the Disney Dining Plan. I think ultimately the Tables in Wonderland card will work better for us anyway, as it will allow us to eat what we want without regard to attempting to get as much value for our money as possible. While I love food, the DDP was just too much, and too expensive.

The next question was where would we stay? My father is a retired CW4/Blackhawk instructor pilot, so Shades of Green was the obvious first option. It has been a long time since I stayed there, but I remember it being incredibly nice and having a great location. I’ve heard it has since been renovated, so hopefully it’s even nicer. My mom also experienced an interest in Fort Wilderness Cabins, but I couldn’t find a good AP rate on those, so Shades of Green it would be.

Sarah and I were excited to stay in this resort, but were a little disappointed not to be able to take Disney’s Magical Express from the airport. We also would not be participating in little of WDWToday Reunion since it’s a family trip, so we began thinking of adding a day. When we found discount that gave us a room in a Value for ~$50, that sealed the deal. Given shuttle costs, it would have been foolish not to book the extra day for the two of us, right?!

Then, we discovered that D23’s Magic & Merriment would be occurring while we were down there. I remembered hearing accounts of this last year, and being incredibly jealous. However, I saw that we would have to add an extra day to the rear end of our trip to accommodate doing this event. Since tickets sold out instantaneously last year, I didn’t hold out much stock in getting them, figuring we’d make the change to our flight if we somehow got them.

However, the next day, when Sarah called DME to add our flight information, she discovered something. We booked our flights such that we were departing Orlando for Indianapolis, and then returning from Indianapolis to Orlando. I have no idea how we booked our flight like this, but we did. What’s even worse, after reviewing the flight multiple times on TripIt, neither of us had caught the mistake. That’s taking incompetence to the next level, right there!

To add insult to injury, when I attempted to rebook on Southwest so that, you know, we’d actually arrive in Orlando and not our hometown, the price for the return flight was double what we had originally paid. I knew I had to rebook to avoid running the risk of the flight increasing further, but I didn’t want to pay that price only to get a refund in credit (that I may or may not eventually receive, as our next flight will be free and there are time limits on using the credit), so I took a look at the Monday flights. The flight we’d want on Monday was significantly cheaper. Although I’m not superstitious, part of me didn’t want to book it for some odd reason. For lack of a more logical reason, I didn’t want to “jinx” it. Logic won out, and booking the more expensive day with the prospect of not being able to use the credit just didn’t make sense, so I booked Monday. We’d know in a week whether we’d have to book Sunday instead, so it wasn’t that big of a deal.

The rest of the week and the first part of the following week went by slowly as we anticipated 1 p.m. on Tuesday. For those unfamiliar with what this event entails, and why we were so excited, here’s the event page. Quite the slate of events. Sarah and I had a plan and strategy ready, and we both took our lunches at work so that we would not be interrupted when attempting to purchase the tickets. At 12:50 p.m., we both started constantly refreshing the on which the link to purchase tickets would appear. The link appeared for me about 20 seconds before it appeared for Sarah, and I sped through the purchase-process. By the time the link appeared for Sarah and she clicked it, she received an “Event Sold Out” message. I was able to complete the checkout, and just sat there in half shock.

I honestly never expected to get the tickets after hearing accounts of how quickly other D23 events sell out. I reviewed my email receipt information multiple times, making sure I hadn’t made any mistakes that would cause my order to fail, printed off multiple copies of the receipt and order confirmation screen, saved the screen-caps, etc. At $235 per ticket, this event will be our Christmas gift to one another. Even with the steep price, and our normally frugal nature, there was no hesitation in purchasing these tickets. While we are keen on purchasing a house in the near future, making the most of our time together before having children is actually more important to us. I don’t anticipate the housing market making a comeback in the near future, whereas these years are fleeting. At least, that’s how we justify it to ourselves. :)

The bad part about booking this additional day was that we had already booked that other additional day on the front end of the trip (and I was reluctant to even do this), and now the trip had bloated to 12 days. Given that I had just started working full time (although I worked summers and part time at the same location through law school), after the California trip, these additional days were a lot to seek in just five months of full-time employment on the year. C’est la vie, I suppose. It’s tough to look at the downside of additional days at Disney. Especially during the Christmas season.

With the tickets purchased, we became really pumped for the trip. We decided to make our countdown calendar when we returned home, which is always a milestone as it indicates that the trip is actually upon us! Here is the end result:
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Next step was booking another night at the end of our trip. Thanks to a Cast Member friend of ours, we were able to secure a night in a Value for a good price. Due to this, we’ll be staying in three different resorts for the trip: a former Deluxe (back when it was the Disney Inn/Golf Resort) in Shades of Green bookended by two different Values. Should be interesting. I’m not looking forward to those resort changes, but it should be worth it. (By the way, anyone know if Disney and/or Shades of Green will move our luggage for us? I know Disney does going from Disney resort to Disney resort, but will they in this circumstance?)

With these additional details set, we decided it was time to go online and cancel a good number of our dining reservations as we had made too many, not knowing our schedule. Much to our shock and dismay, all but three of our ADRs had already been canceled! Apparently, sometimes CMs go in and flag double-booked ADRs and will cancel them. The majority of these were not double-booked, yet they were canceled anyway. A little irritating, as we always cancel these ourselves and, so far as I know, there is no policy against doing this nor is there warning that the reservations will be canceled by Disney (just warning that you’re double booked, and a request that you cancel yourself). As this is a contentious issue, I’m sure many of you think we got what was coming to us, but that’s how we book our dining. We cancel the unnecessary reservations far before our trip, so it’s not as if there are any “empty” tables because of us. Anyway, moral discussion of Disney reservations aside, we rebooked some of the ADRs that we wanted without issue (luckily we didn’t have any “good” ADRs otherwise I would have been extremely agitated). I plan on consulting our schedule further on Monday and rebooking additional reservations as necessary. (I’ll also post the dining plans and daily schedule then.)

That’s where we stand thus far. Next weekend we’ll probably begin decorating for Christmas (yeah, I know, I know, but we love Christmas and won’t be around to enjoy the decorations for as long so we’re starting a tad early). Once we get those up, I’ll post some photos. I

 

WDWFigment

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Tom- you will love shades of green....we have stayed there on our last four trips to disney and it has been wonderful. We will actually be at disney toward the end of your trip (we will be at WDW Dec 10-16) This is actually our first time NOT staying at Shades, we will be at the Polynesian! we are super excited! It will be my little girl's first trip/4th bday at WDW. We are super excited we will be at MVMCP on Dec12th. ANy back to SOG......the resprt is beautiful (especially at xmas) and the staff is super friendly. The rooms are very large and always super quiet (a plus when tired) THere is also a wide variety or wildlife roaming......we have has turkeys on our patio and when we had a view of the pond we actually saw a few gators!!!!!! They were small though.....you will have a ton of photo ops at SOG!!!!!! Enjoy it.....maybe we will see you around WDW (or at the poly at sunrise) dont be suprised if you hear someone jumping up and down trying to get your attention!!!!!!

That’s awesome about the turkeys and gators. I can’t say I ever recall seeing any when I was younger. I believe we stayed at Shades of Green around 5 times prior to the refurbishment.

Kona for breakfast is one of my favorites but I'm also influenced by the coffee. ((BTW, Starbucks has tea!)) I've not yet had Kona for dinner but will in about 2 weeks. I've heard great things about that meal.

The only time I've eaten at the Brown Derby was when my sweetheart & I had the Lunch w/an Imagineer there. We both ordered the Cobb salad with our meals (I think they gave us soup and salad before the entree & desert). I could eat the portion we had of the salad as a lighter yet satisfying lunch. I'm not sure if that was a smaller than standard size or what but it was still quite big. In fact, I crave it these days. I think I might ditch my family & sneak away as soon as the Derby opens to indulge in the Cobb salad followed by the grapefruit cake.

We enjoy Whispering Canyon a lot. We're strange folks who live & breathe on humor so the cast member antics ends up being just our thing. The food is our kinda grub. Love the ribs and the cornbread. Good stuff.

The Wave. Not done it before but it's on the agenda for the very near future. I don't recall reading a bad review of the food there. In fact, more than once I've seen "best meal of the trip". I'm in. Will let ya know.

I like Sci-Fi for lunch but not dinner. If I had to go for dinner I would but I'd ask for the burger which isn't on the dinner menu. It just feels weird to sit in a car at the drive-in and not eat a cheeseburger with fries & a shake. May just be me.

Tea is similarly disgusting, so still no reason for me to go to Starbucks! I don’t really need the wake-me-up (who gets tired at WDW?!), but I never drink cola/pop/whatever at any other time, so I always like to grab multiple 32 ounce Cokes throughout the day. That’s probably actually why I never get tired at WDW, because I’m all jacked up on Coke (it’s a wonder I can keep my hands steady to hold the camera).

We’re looking forward to breakfast at Kona. We did dinner on our honeymoon and it was awesome. We’re considering doing lunch or dinner again, but we shall see whether that happens. Sarah also wants to do ‘Ohana, and I’m betting we only do one or the other.

I made a new ADR for Whispering Canyon yesterday and cancelled our old one, so now we have a lunch ADR. I am hoping we’ll utilize this while on our mini “resort tour” prior to MVMCP. It sounds like a good place, and who doesn’t love Wilderness Lodge at Christmas (we have actually never seen it in person!).

I wonder if they’ll have a problem with us ordering burgers at dinner? The plan with Sci-Fi was to do a relatively cheap meal there to take in the ambience. That plan is sort of hijacked by going at dinner. Definitely not doing the ribs there, as they supposedly taste like sweaty belly-button.

Hi from another WDWMagic member who will be down there for a part of your trip. Dec 8-12 Beach Club. If I see you I sure will recognize you from all of your pictures in your great TR's.

I loved Whispering Canyon when we stayed at WL last Easter week. DW was not so impressed. I liked the food more than she did, IIRC I had the steak and really liked it. I also loved the hijinks more than she did, my kids loved it. I'd recommend it.

As for Kona for Dinner, I can tell you that if you have an ADR for around when the crowd gather in the lobby for the Luau show, it can get mall food court crazy. you have the Luau guests, the people going into and out of Ohana, and patrons at the bar as well as a usually crowded Kona Cafe all occupying what is essentially the same spece. Don't get me wrong the food is lovely, I'd just take the time to make an ADR which did not overlap with the Luau shows.

As for Kona for breakfast, I'll let you know, we're trying it for a late breakfast on the ninth.

Good to know on Whispering Canyon. All of the sentiment here is definitely making me want to lean towards doing it.

We’ll beat you on Kona breakfast by a couple days!

Tom, I have been following your guys journey since I became a lurker here at WDWMagic a few years ago. I always look forward to your trip reports. My family and I will be looking for you on your December trip. We will be there until the 5th. We hope to see you there.

We recommend the Kona Cafe for dinner. It has been one of our favorites for years. Enjoy your Disney holiday!!

Jim

Glad you’ve enjoyed the trip reports. Say hello if you see us!

We have some overlapping days as well! I will keep my eyes open for you & Sarah. I have enjoyed reading all of your trip reports- and LOVE the photos. I never knew that you could stay past park closing to take photos. Thanks for sharing- that's definitely something I'm going to try to do at least once. (Even though my photography skills aren't nearly as amazing as yours lol) Happy planning & have a great trip- can't wait for the post-trip report!

Have a great trip as well–hopefully I’ll get the trip report posted quickly this time!
 

Tiggerish

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To be fair, the first trip was our honeymoon, and everyone takes a honeymoon. The second trip was due to me being in a friend’s wedding, which was “required.” The third trip is a wedding gift. So, depending on how you look at it, we aren’t actually taking any “vacations” this year.

First, gotta say that has to be the single greatest example of rationalization I've ever seen, and likely foreshadows some fancy legal footwork from you in years to come...:lol:


The pics of mom and dad--wow, you still look the same!

I hope you'll keep your reservation at the Wave. I think it's a really nice dining experience (and the food is excellent!)
 

sweetpee_1993

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I wonder if they’ll have a problem with us ordering burgers at dinner? The plan with Sci-Fi was to do a relatively cheap meal there to take in the ambience. That plan is sort of hijacked by going at dinner. Definitely not doing the ribs there, as they supposedly taste like sweaty belly-button.


I don't think I want to know who made the discovery of what a sweaty belly-button tastes like or how they came upon the decision to try it. :cool:

I don't think you'll have a problem ordering burgers at Sci-Fi for dinner. I've read (somewhere but can't remember exactly where) that it's pretty common. If you want to go cheap on the meal but still get dessert split the burger then each have an ice cream sundae for dessert. Mmmmm... :slurp:
 

tirian

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Definitely a great gift--and it has been a busy year for us. I love watching Christmas movies and TV specials, so this report will likely end up being shorter than the Disneymoon one.

:lol: I love Christmas movies too, and usually watch a different one the full 25 days leading up to Christmas day.

Booked:
Trail’s End - Dinner
The Wave - Dinner
Kona Café - Dinner
Kona Café - Breakfast
Sci Fi Dine-In - Lunch
Sci Fi Dine-In - Dinner
Brown Derby - Lunch
The Plaza - Dinner
Via Napolia - Lunch

Whispering Canyon - Dinner

We’ll probably end up doing 2-3 other table service meals besides Via Napoli and the Plaza.
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Any other suggestions?

Yachtsman's Steakhouse, La Hacienda de San Angel (the outdoor full service restaurant), Teppan Edo, the Wave, the Biergarten.

Plan to share pizzas at Via Napoli, because they're much too large to eat alone.
 

tirian

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Enjoy it.....maybe we will see you around WDW (or at the poly at sunrise) dont be suprised if you hear someone jumping up and down trying to get your attention!!!!!!:wave:

I once walked straight past him and his wife (fiancé at the time) at Epcot, and realized it about five minutes too late. He's pretty easy to spot; just look for the guy with the tricked-out camera gear! :lol:
 

the1nonlysinger

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Ok, so I was at Barnes and Noble earlier tonight and I was checking out the WDW books just to scope out if I needed to add any into my collection... And I'm flipping through The Unofficial Guide: The Color Companion to Walt Disney World. I see a photo that I recognize- hey, that's Tom & Sarah! I just saw that photo on one of their previous trip reports! And then, wait- that's another one! lol I even had to call my husband over to show him.

This is probably ancient news around the boards, but it was awesome to see your photography in there! It's like when some of my actor friends have appeared on tv shows or commercials- I get so excited! :)
 

deb4him40

Member
Are you going to see the Candlelight Processional? We did the dinner package with reserved seating for it last year, first week of Dec. It was great. Steven Curtis Chapman read the Christmas story the night we were there. I would recommend the dinner package though, some people in the stand by line didn't get in. Have a great trip and can't wait for the trip report!
 

mickey2008.1

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well it looks as if we will see you there somewhere, probably at Kona cafe. And if we do cross pathes, you will be taking our picture, because it will be the only one that comes out amazing!:ROFLOL:Anyway, have a great time! and if our pathes cross, so be it, but if there is a picture of you in our trip report, don't press charges lawyer.:ROFLOL:
 

Sonny Eclipse

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Tom, your trip reports are awesome as are your photos. I am arriving on the 8th with my daughter and will hopefully run into you. I am going to try and talk my daughter into coming with me to at least part of the WDWphotography meet on the 9th.

Look forward to your next trip report
 

WDWFigment

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First, gotta say that has to be the single greatest example of rationalization I've ever seen, and likely foreshadows some fancy legal footwork from you in years to come...


The pics of mom and dad--wow, you still look the same!

I hope you'll keep your reservation at the Wave. I think it's a really nice dining experience (and the food is excellent!)

Well, when you spend nearly a month in Disney Parks in a six-month span, you have to find a way to rationalize it somehow. Now that I think about it, it really seems like we haven’t gone enough. I mean, we took a short honeymoon because of the bar, we only spent three days in Disneyland, and this Christmas trip...okay...I can’t really justify why it would be necessary to spend more than 12 days in WDW around Christmas, but I am sure there is some excellent reason!

We’re on the fence with the Wave. It’s been a “potential candidate” for the last two trips, and got cut on both occasions. I think it might be getting cut again. Maybe next Spring?

I don't think I want to know who made the discovery of what a sweaty belly-button tastes like or how they came upon the decision to try it.

I don't think you'll have a problem ordering burgers at Sci-Fi for dinner. I've read (somewhere but can't remember exactly where) that it's pretty common. If you want to go cheap on the meal but still get dessert split the burger then each have an ice cream sundae for dessert. Mmmmm...

Sarah and I split a burger at Beaches and Cream (originally we weren’t going to order any food), so we wouldn’t be too full for the Kitchen Sink, and it was probably one of the worst decisions of my life. Splitting meals is a terrible idea!

I love Christmas movies too, and usually watch a different one the full 25 days leading up to Christmas day.



Yachtsman's Steakhouse, La Hacienda de San Angel (the outdoor full service restaurant), Teppan Edo, the Wave, the Biergarten.

Plan to share pizzas at Via Napoli, because they're much too large to eat alone.

We’ve been avoiding Yachtsman thus far because of some mediocre reviews. Probably won’t make it there this trip, either. I am intrigued by the outdoor San Angel and Teppan Edo, as well. We did Biergarten for our honeymoon.

I once walked straight past him and his wife (fiancé at the time) at Epcot, and realized it about five minutes too late. He's pretty easy to spot; just look for the guy with the tricked-out camera gear!

If anything is a dead giveaway, it’s the various vintage Disney camera straps. A lot of people have nice cameras these days!

Ok, so I was at Barnes and Noble earlier tonight and I was checking out the WDW books just to scope out if I needed to add any into my collection... And I'm flipping through The Unofficial Guide: The Color Companion to Walt Disney World. I see a photo that I recognize- hey, that's Tom & Sarah! I just saw that photo on one of their previous trip reports! And then, wait- that's another one! lol I even had to call my husband over to show him.

This is probably ancient news around the boards, but it was awesome to see your photography in there! It's like when some of my actor friends have appeared on tv shows or commercials- I get so excited!

Yep, that’s us. I have around 25 photos in that book, some being of Sarah and/or myself. I also am the photographer for the website of the Unofficial Guide, TouringPlans.com. My biggest project thus far has been creating unique banners for each different land, attraction, etc., for the top of each page on the Disneyland and WDW sites. The rest of the guys have been hard at work overhauling the site in recent months, and the project is going really well, in my opinion. If you haven’t been to the site recently, it’s worth checking out!

Are you going to see the Candlelight Processional? We did the dinner package with reserved seating for it last year, first week of Dec. It was great. Steven Curtis Chapman read the Christmas story the night we were there. I would recommend the dinner package though, some people in the stand by line didn't get in. Have a great trip and can't wait for the trip report!

We’ll probably attend two Candlelight Processionals–one with my parents and one with Magic & Merriment.

well it looks as if we will see you there somewhere, probably at Kona cafe. And if we do cross pathes, you will be taking our picture, because it will be the only one that comes out amazing!Anyway, have a great time! and if our pathes cross, so be it, but if there is a picture of you in our trip report, don't press charges lawyer.

Haha, say hello if you see me. I’ll gladly take your photo!

I don't think I want to know who made the discovery of what a sweaty belly-button tastes like or how they came upon the decision to try it. <-----that would be blacktidot. He has an awsome food report from his last trip!
The words “awesome” and “blackthidot” should never be so close to one another. Well, unless there is some nefarious act also in close proximity to those words.

Tom, your trip reports are awesome as are your photos. I am arriving on the 8th with my daughter and will hopefully run into you. I am going to try and talk my daughter into coming with me to at least part of the WDWphotography meet on the 9th.

Look forward to your next trip report

I’m not yet sure whether we’ll be making it to any of the daytime WDWPhotography meets. We probably will meet up later at night after my parents leave. The middle of the trip, when the WDWPhotography events occur, is family-time.
 

tirian

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^^ Yeah, the super-awesome, old-school EPCOT Center strap is exactly what caught my attention.

I've never had a bad meal at the Yachtsman Steakhouse, but I never had a bad meal at Alfredo's, either. I think I simply get lucky with restaurants. (On the other hand, Yak and Yeti and the indoor Mexican restaurant are some of the worst places I've eaten in my life.)

The Wave has become a personal favorite; its menu comprises delicious and healthy options, two terms that aren't necessarily exclusive of one another.
 

popsicletrees

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Well my mom already beat me to it, but we will be up there for some of the same days. I have a good idea of what the two of you look like considering that I've read all of your trip reports. So, if I see you two in as non-creepily of a way as possible I'll say "hi."
 

plaz10

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I love a good WDWFigment trip report! The wedding pics of you and Sarah are absolutely gorgeous! Normally on PTR I find myself saying "take lots of pics of this or that" but telling you that just seems unnecessary. haha! Have a great time!

I am intrigued by the outdoor San Angel and Teppan Edo, as well. We did Biergarten for our honeymoon.

I highly recommend Teppan Edo. It is basic hibachi that you will get at any Benihana but it is in the parks and it is always delicious. And who doesn't love a little show with their meal.
 

Computer Magic

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I've never had a bad meal at the Yachtsman Steakhouse, but I never had a bad meal at Alfredo's, either. I think I simply get lucky with restaurants. (On the other hand, Yak and Yeti and the indoor Mexican restaurant are some of the worst places I've eaten in my life.)

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I agree, I would make not my choice solely on reviews. I never had a bad meal at Yachtsman's and we have been there 5 times. It does take two credit which makes it expensive. Now I'm sure some people don't like Yachtsman. YOu can't please everyone.
Now I have had bad Mexican at San Angel.
 
Your reports and pictures are fantastic. It certainly makes the time between trips that much more bearable. (I look forward to your trips almost as much as ours now.)
 

WDW 3

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Can't wait to see your report and photos of SOG. Stayed they several times (last time just last October) but don't get many pictures. Love the resort. Small by disney standards and relaxing:) Don't let the bus schedule work against you. That is a common complaint, the buses. Use them with all the disney transportation and it's great!
 

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