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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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THE 1HAPPY HAUNT said:
then why didn't they go see 'SOLO'? I rest my case your honor. DISNEY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND STAR WARS AT ALL
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While I can't explain the entire fandom and all their individual opinions, here is my take.

Solo is a purely a nostalgia film for nostalgia sake. It didn't appeal to new SW fans looking for more on Rey, Poe, Finn, Kylo and their story. And it didn't appeal to old school fans who only wanted to see Harrison playing the character.

I personally didn't think it was a bad film. I thought it was a passable backstory movie. This was Lucas/Disney trying something, swinging for the fences and missing. It happens, in time it may be seen as a better film than the box office showed. Not every SW film is going to knock it out of the park at the box office. Especially when you go off and tell additional stories away from the core saga. Which is why I think a lot of those non-core saga stories should be on Disney+, which it looks like is happening.

Nostalgia is a funny thing. Start messing with it too much and people get upset. Its why there was uproar when Lucas himself put out the prequels. I remember hearing a lot of similar things about the prequels that are being said now, Lucas doesn't understand fans, blah blah blah....

However that doesn't apply to everything SW related. For example not all SW fans, just like yourself, accept the EU books (some even created with Lucas) that were produced prior to Disney. Those told stories away from the main Skywalker saga, some fans like them others didn't. But there wasn't some big uproar saying that Lucas didn't understand fans.

So you never can tell what will be a hit with fans and what won't be. But in my opinion SW and the fandom will be fine. Older generations of fans will either move on or pass on (sorry to say) and the new generations will grow up with the new SW stories being told and end up being nostalgic for them as time passes. That is the way this stuff works, the next generation has different likes and dislikes than the generation before them.
 
THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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Disney Irish said:
While I can't explain the entire fandom and all their individual opinions, here is my take.

Solo is a purely a nostalgia film for nostalgia sake. It didn't appeal to new SW fans looking for more on Rey, Poe, Finn, Kylo and their story. And it didn't appeal to old school fans who only wanted to see Harrison playing the character.

I personally didn't think it was a bad film. I thought it was a passable backstory movie. This was Lucas/Disney trying something, swinging for the fences and missing. It happens, in time it may be seen as a better film than the box office showed. Not every SW film is going to knock it out of the park at the box office. Especially when you go off and tell additional stories away from the core saga. Which is why I think a lot of those non-core saga stories should be on Disney+, which it looks like is happening.

Nostalgia is a funny thing. Start messing with it too much and people get upset. Its why there was uproar when Lucas himself put out the prequels. I remember hearing a lot of similar things about the prequels that are being said now, Lucas doesn't understand fans, blah blah blah....

However that doesn't apply to everything SW related. For example not all SW fans, just like yourself, accept the EU books (some even created with Lucas) that were produced prior to Disney. Those told stories away from the main Skywalker saga, some fans like them others didn't. But there wasn't some big uproar saying that Lucas didn't understand fans.

So you never can tell what will be a hit with fans and what won't be. But in my opinion SW and the fandom will be fine. Older generations of fans will either move on or pass on (sorry to say) and the new generations will grow up with the new SW stories being told and end up being nostalgic for them as time passes. That is the way this stuff works, the next generation has different likes and dislikes than the generation before them.
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I don't agree with your opinion. but i respect your stance.
 
TROR

TROR

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THE 1HAPPY HAUNT said:
Actually it wouldn't. I understand what star wars is about. it's not about "bad ***" lightsaber fights with everyone doing flips and force pushes and such. It's always been about the emotion of who is fighting and why they are fighting that made the fights compelling. Its not about rebels or empire. sure they were factors but they were all for the most part ,except for a few stand out characthers like Wedge,ACKBAR, etc, just generic background bad guys and good guys used to tell the story. I mean the only time we even see the rebellion in EMPIRE is at the start and end. same with the empire in that film, we just get vader, the emperor, some named generals and a ton of storm troopers and generic people working on the star destroyer. EMPIRE demonstrates its not about the space dog fights, or the color of the lightsabers, that stuff is always just the background for telling a compelling characther story. that is why we love the original STAR WARS. we enjoy the lived in world but mainly the characthers we are introduced to. Hell, we meet Han about half way in or so and by the end we are cheering for him when he comes to save Luke. we get half a movie to know all we need to know about him to know we like him. it has always been about the characther arcs and emotions they go through. the trials they go through. good vs evil and good winning even though it faces moral delimeas and temptations all set against a space background. that is why disney's star wars has failed. They don't have characthers they have types of people they want in the film to bring in a certain demographic to watch the films. so yes, my film would be good.
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Write me a screenplay.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Disney Irish said:
I don't agree. I honestly think its the internet that is making it divided and worse. But I digress....
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True. It's not Disney. Fandom is a pretty scary place. There are a few vocal nutcases that make everyone look bad.

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Minthorne

Minthorne

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Did the one going for $499 sell on eBay?

I just checked - there are 7 there for bid. One has 9 bids and up to $505. So nuts...
 
Minthorne

Minthorne

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truecoat said:
How hard is it to get one of these?
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Well you have to be able to get into SW:GE The black crystal is a random replacement in the red crystal packaging. So you then need to hope one of the red crystals in stock is actually a black one. I've heard they limit the number of them put out each day. Thanks to the internet (and Al Gore by proxy) people know you can use a phone's light to shine through the package to see if it is red or black. So by those limiting factors I am guessing they are still pretty rare.
 
SSG

SSG

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I don't think the price point of these blades is too bad. They aren't the higher end stuff you could get at Ultrasaber or Saberforge, but you'd pay $300 or more for those. Savi's blades look comparable to the Black Series models that Disney has been selling for years for $150 to $200. They look to have decent--if basic--light and sound and seem solidly built. They seem OK to swing around as you get your Star Wars nerd on.

The main problem is the Gatherers. They are the weak point. They have to sell the experience and most of them don't have the acting chops to pull it off. Disney will make a lot of money off this and can afford to get real performers into this role.
 
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