Beholder
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And at 52 I may be a little old for a sports car anyway.
Never! No such thing, my dad is in his early 70's and up until about 6 years ago was driving a 69' corvette that he built.
And at 52 I may be a little old for a sports car anyway.
I hope I'll be driving a sports car when I'm in my 50's (or a Harley )Never! No such thing, my dad is in his early 70's and up until about 6 years ago was driving a 69' corvette that he built.
Kid number 3 made either a mini-van of a big SUV a necessity. A Saturn SL2 and a 4 seater sports car was not going to cut it. I looked at both options and wanted neither. The minivan came it at a much lower cost than an SUV with better fuel economy to boot so I took the hit for the team. Truth be told, the minivan has been a pretty good purchase. I can yank all the seats out which gives me a huge covered and lockable cargo area and it gave me a good bit of space between my kids on road trips (since you don't have kids, space avoids the "She is on my side!" argument) The only bad thing is the brakes and bearings were not really designed for the weight of the vehicle. I replace all the wheel bearings every 100K because if the fail, which they have, a $200 repair turns into a $1200 one, and I have yet to get more than 40k out of a set of front brakes.With no kids, we never drove a mini van, but I do feel your pain. When I was younger I had a Plymouth Duster 360 that was wicked fast, and my wife had a Firebird Formula...a long way from today's practical and reliable Toyota. I do have a fairly new Chevy Silverado to pull the camper with, and a VTX 1300 to try to hang on to a little bit of youth, and to blow by old dudes in mini vans!
on a side note...one of the Big 3 had their sedan (Impala) rated #1 for the first time in two decades...Detroit's on the rise? (and by detroit...I mean American car companies...not the city)Well, considering that my household has never bought American made cars, probably not. I mean, I can't just look at a car and just buy it. I need to research it, google car reviews to make sure if it's a worthy buy or not. There wasn't anything really at the TT postshow that made me say, "I must have that car" but rather, "okay, it looks nice but I need to google it and see how it is and get perspectives from someone who isn't a spokesman for GM or Chevy."
Have you tried full ceramic pads? Wagner makes a nice set....granted I'm partial to hawk brake pads I don't know if they make them for your van....if so there great too.Kid number 3 made either a mini-van of a big SUV a necessity. A Saturn SL2 and a 4 seater sports car was not going to cut it. I looked at both options and wanted neither. The minivan came it at a much lower cost than an SUV with better fuel economy to boot so I took the hit for the team. Truth be told, the minivan has been a pretty good purchase. I can yank all the seats out which gives me a huge covered and lockable cargo area and it gave me a good bit of space between my kids on road trips (since you don't have kids, space avoids the "She is on my side!" argument) The only bad thing is the brakes and bearings were not really designed for the weight of the vehicle. I replace all the wheel bearings every 100K because if the fail, which they have, a $200 repair turns into a $1200 one, and I have yet to get more than 40k out of a set of front brakes.
Yep. The last set I put on were Hawx SUV pads with cross drilled and slotted rotors. Between the rotors, hardware and the pads I spent $300 on parts alone. I got 40k on that set up. The last brake job I did I turned the drilled and slotted rotors and used Wagner thermoQuiet pads. We shall see how long they last.Have you
Have you tried full ceramic pads? Wagner makes a nice set....granted I'm partial to hawk brake pads I don't know if they make them for your van....if so there great too.
I'd expect to see the electric one down there within the year. I was talking to the dealer and they are slowly rolling them starting with places where people experience traffic etc. more often (i.e. NYC, LA, etc.).OP- I LOVE the Spark! We are a one car family as well (which REALLY sucks sometimes) and are looking for a small second car- wish they has the electric version in FL though- that would be perfect.
If they ever get an electric car down to a reasonable price, I will be on board big time. Right now, a Volt would be perfect for me. My daily driving is well inside its range and the size would be just fine as well now that I am down to one kid. The idea of having to fill up one or twice a year is very appealing to me. Paying $40k for a mid size sedan, not so much.I'd expect to see the electric one down there within the year. I was talking to the dealer and they are slowly rolling them starting with places where people experience traffic etc. more often (i.e. NYC, LA, etc.).
I couldn't agree more! In fact I think the older you get the more you deserve a hot car!Never! No such thing, my dad is in his early 70's and up until about 6 years ago was driving a 69' corvette that he built.
Yeah I couldn't believe the sticker on the Volt when we were at the Chevy dealer. I had no clue they were so much. Sure you save by not having to spend anything in gas but your electric bill is gonna go up. I think... if I remember right... the Chevy Spark EV (electric version) was basing around $17? I could be wrong. I had no interest in it so I didn't spend much time reading about it.If they ever get an electric car down to a reasonable price, I will be on board big time. Right now, a Volt would be perfect for me. My daily driving is well inside its range and the size would be just fine as well now that I am down to one kid. The idea of having to fill up one or twice a year is very appealing to me. Paying $40k for a mid size sedan, not so much.
From what I have read, the rise in your electric bill was somewhere in the neighborhood of $20 a month. I spend almost 4 times that a week in gas.Yeah I couldn't believe the sticker on the Volt when we were at the Chevy dealer. I had no clue they were so much. Sure you save by not having to spend anything in gas but your electric bill is gonna go up. I think... if I remember right... the Chevy Spark EV (electric version) was basing around $17? I could be wrong. I had no interest in it so I didn't spend much time reading about it.
I couldn't agree more! In fact I think the older you get the more you deserve a hot car!
Oh wow really? I have never really looked into it much... probably because, as I mentioned in the original post, we had zero intentions of buying a new car any time soon. This was a completely unexpected thing and honestly once I realized the Spark was the cheapest in it's class, and read reviews on the others, I didn't go any further than planning my trip to the Chevy dealer. LOLFrom what I have read, the rise in your electric bill was somewhere in the neighborhood of $20 a month. I spend almost 4 times that a week in gas.
Wait, you wouldn't want a car that transforms into a robot version of Jar Jar Binks?1. I like my Mustang.
2. Your driving experience is forever ruined by Michael Bay.
Yep. The last set I put on were Hawx SUV pads with cross drilled and slotted rotors. Between the rotors, hardware and the pads I spent $300 on parts alone. I got 40k on that set up. The last brake job I did I turned the drilled and slotted rotors and used Wagner thermoQuiet pads. We shall see how long they last.
The big problem is the brakes are way undersized for the weight of the vehicle. The size of the brakes on this 5000+ lb van are almost identical to the brakes on your average 2500 lb compact sedan. IMHO they should have uses a 17" rim and upped the brake size accordingly. Sadly, there are no aftermarket kits available that would let me do this.
Yep. The last set I put on were Hawx SUV pads with cross drilled and slotted rotors. Between the rotors, hardware and the pads I spent $300 on parts alone. I got 40k on that set up. The last brake job I did I turned the drilled and slotted rotors and used Wagner thermoQuiet pads. We shall see how long they last.
The big problem is the brakes are way undersized for the weight of the vehicle. The size of the brakes on this 5000+ lb van are almost identical to the brakes on your average 2500 lb compact sedan. IMHO they should have uses a 17" rim and upped the brake size accordingly. Sadly, there are no aftermarket kits available that would let me do this.
I have been looking for options since about 2004. The only thing similar is the Ford Windstar and the components are not any better. When it comes to better models, I bought top of the line already so there is no where to go but down.what you might be able to look into if there are no kits is to see if there was ever a higher tier of brakes from the factory...sometimes grand touring and or "sportier" trims can have larger brakes..i cant imagine that that frame/axle setup was only used on the one minivan. im sure you know all this but i am just beating that horse...with a 5 iron.
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