Test Track issues

drew81

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Original Poster
Test Track was down for a significant amount of time tonight. Does anyone know what was going on? This left only 3 attractions in Future World that were open. The Seas closed at 6pm.
 

invader

Well-Known Member
Don't know about to today, but yesterday it was definitely closed for rain. Made the fast pass rush a living hell for anyone in The Land from 9-930.
 

donaldtoo

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All I wanna' know is, is there a "such-and-such issues" about attractions at Universal, Sea World, Busch Gardens, etc. thread around here anywhere...? o_O ;)
 

Kenan

Member
The computers cause a major overload to the circuit board. By computers i mean design center. If the deaign center shuts down, GM wants the entire ride shut down til the problem is fixed. From what I heard, it was written in the contract. So that coulda been the issue.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
There's still a multitude of legacy bugs from WDIs patching in 1998. Expect reprogramming and attempts at fixes to carry on well into this year, in both the RCS and the preshow systems.
 

aw14

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It seems daily common for TT to be down for long periods. At opening on New Year's Eve it was down 2 hours.
 

DDPGambit

Member
TT went down briefly yesterday right after opening as well. Oddly, we were only entering in the fast pass line, no one was able to use the stand by design stations.
 

RonAnnArbor

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T'T has ALWAYS had breakdown issues; nobody will know why because nobody will tell you. The ride has as many breakdowns as the computer system. I was at Epcot maybe 6 times in Dec and Jan and it was down for a period of time every single one of those 6 days. One morning in Dec it didn't even open until 3, and it was down again by 5. BUT, this is absolutely the same as pre-refurb. For the record, the only thing changed is the theming. The ride itself is identical in every way: track layout; swerves; hills; truck surprise; crash test...it's the mechanics of the ride itself that break down-- and that infrastructure was NOT refurbed.
 

TDF

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The computers cause a major overload to the circuit board. By computers i mean design center. If the deaign center shuts down, GM wants the entire ride shut down til the problem is fixed. From what I heard, it was written in the contract. So that coulda been the issue.

During NYE we went on the single riders line and it broke down causing an additional 10-15 minute additional wait time.
 

t3techcom18

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Test Track was down for a significant amount of time tonight. Does anyone know what was going on? This left only 3 attractions in Future World that were open. The Seas closed at 6pm.

TT had an issue with a few cars acting up all at the same time - a rare but possible occurence. We have a rule that says if said issue takes more than 15 minutes to fix, we WILL shut the ride down to get the guests out, so as to not make them too uncomfortable, especially if they're stuck on the exterior portions. That's exactly what happened yesterday.

Seas was closed for a special event.

The computers cause a major overload to the circuit board. By computers i mean design center. If the deaign center shuts down, GM wants the entire ride shut down til the problem is fixed. From what I heard, it was written in the contract. So that coulda been the issue.

Not necessarily in terms of the circuit board. If anything, most of the issues from the Design Studios have been stemming from programming, not necessarily hardware.

The bit about that part of the contract with GM is indeed true though.

It seems daily common for TT to be down for long periods. At opening on New Year's Eve it was down 2 hours.

TT being down on NYE was due to either the cold that morning or a mishap with some of the worklights refusing to turn off. Don't remember at the moment...

TT went down briefly yesterday right after opening as well. Oddly, we were only entering in the fast pass line, no one was able to use the stand by design stations.

That is because we clear out the guests in the Studios first and foremost (since they've spent the most time in one area), delay loading more of the Studios, and have giant FP pushes til we get the FP line under control.

It's normal....as for your first part of your comment, it leads me into this comment...

During NYE we went on the single riders line and it broke down causing an additional 10-15 minute additional wait time.
Many people are starting to confuse official downtimes with small issues that arise. This is something that bothers me personally...

When there's an issue with a car and it's something that the CM's there spiel that there is a delay that results in increased wait time, it is NOT, I repeat, NOT a downtime. A delay? Yes? Downtime? NO. Downtimes are ONLY when the attraction is COMPLETELY down and we force everyone out of the building. If you keep hearing delay spiels but no one has been removed from the building, there is just a minor delay, not a major downtime.

T'T has ALWAYS had breakdown issues; nobody will know why because nobody will tell you. The ride has as many breakdowns as the computer system. I was at Epcot maybe 6 times in Dec and Jan and it was down for a period of time every single one of those 6 days. One morning in Dec it didn't even open until 3, and it was down again by 5. BUT, this is absolutely the same as pre-refurb. For the record, the only thing changed is the theming. The ride itself is identical in every way: track layout; swerves; hills; truck surprise; crash test...it's the mechanics of the ride itself that break down-- and that infrastructure was NOT refurbed.

Boy do I got a lengthy answer for this one...The infrastructure WAS refurbed. The entire busbar system (what powers the cars, sends signals to the computer etc) was completely replaced. Every vehicle was completely redone (some cars using recycled pieces BUT nonetheless).

As for it being down....it's actually a LOT more reliable than it was before. Many people on here who have been over to TT will laugh when I say that but it's true. In the last few months of operation of TT 1.0, I've had more than 5 downtimes I've had to deal with personally. In the past month and a half that we've had guests? Once. Of the downtimes we HAVE had overall with 2.0, there's been only once or twice that it's the system bringing the attraction down, with a few more being issues with cars that took too long to fix in that 15 minute window. Otherwise, it's been weird issues that aren't related to mechanical issues, ie, too cold, weird electrical issues, and most prominently, issues with the Design Studios.
 

articos

Well-Known Member
TT had an issue with a few cars acting up all at the same time - a rare but possible occurence. We have a rule that says if said issue takes more than 15 minutes to fix, we WILL shut the ride down to get the guests out, so as to not make them too uncomfortable, especially if they're stuck on the exterior portions. That's exactly what happened yesterday.

Seas was closed for a special event.



Not necessarily in terms of the circuit board. If anything, most of the issues from the Design Studios have been stemming from programming, not necessarily hardware.

The bit about that part of the contract with GM is indeed true though.



TT being down on NYE was due to either the cold that morning or a mishap with some of the worklights refusing to turn off. Don't remember at the moment...



That is because we clear out the guests in the Studios first and foremost (since they've spent the most time in one area), delay loading more of the Studios, and have giant FP pushes til we get the FP line under control.

It's normal....as for your first part of your comment, it leads me into this comment...


Many people are starting to confuse official downtimes with small issues that arise. This is something that bothers me personally...

When there's an issue with a car and it's something that the CM's there spiel that there is a delay that results in increased wait time, it is NOT, I repeat, NOT a downtime. A delay? Yes? Downtime? NO. Downtimes are ONLY when the attraction is COMPLETELY down and we force everyone out of the building. If you keep hearing delay spiels but no one has been removed from the building, there is just a minor delay, not a major downtime.



Boy do I got a lengthy answer for this one...The infrastructure WAS refurbed. The entire busbar system (what powers the cars, sends signals to the computer etc) was completely replaced. Every vehicle was completely redone (some cars using recycled pieces BUT nonetheless).

As for it being down....it's actually a LOT more reliable than it was before. Many people on here who have been over to TT will laugh when I say that but it's true. In the last few months of operation of TT 1.0, I've had more than 5 downtimes I've had to deal with personally. In the past month and a half that we've had guests? Once. Of the downtimes we HAVE had overall with 2.0, there's been only once or twice that it's the system bringing the attraction down, with a few more being issues with cars that took too long to fix in that 15 minute window. Otherwise, it's been weird issues that aren't related to mechanical issues, ie, too cold, weird electrical issues, and most prominently, issues with the Design Studios.
It's interesting to me that as a corporate entity, GM actually looks at the attraction as a whole, inclusive of the design portion, hence the rename to the Design Center. Most corporations wouldn't care, but GM actually cared enough to protect the show - the entire show. If it were up to Ops, if there were issues with the design center, and there are, they'd open the doors and run it without. This way, it's not up to Ops or their guest count numbers. So, props to GM.

Most people don't realize how sensitive rides are to simple things like hot and cold weather. And regarding worklights, I insist on worklights being hardwired to a switch on a wall or in a panel, and every time I get questioned. It's ridiculous that worklights should be a problem, ever, but it happens more often than I care to count.
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
GM wants the entire ride shut down til the problem is fixed. From what I heard, it was written in the contract. So that coulda been the issue.
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Kudos to them for holding TDO to their own/former standards.
 

djlaosc

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It's interesting to me that as a corporate entity, GM actually looks at the attraction as a whole, inclusive of the design portion, hence the rename to the Design Center. Most corporations wouldn't care, but GM actually cared enough to protect the show - the entire show. If it were up to Ops, if there were issues with the design center, and there are, they'd open the doors and run it without. This way, it's not up to Ops or their guest count numbers. So, props to GM.

The question is, would guests rather get to ride the attraction, even if the design option wasn't available?

I know that me and my family would rather ride the attraction without the design cars showing up, than not ride the attraction at all - especially as there have been a lot of comments on here saying that the designs haven't been showing up anyway, and I'm sure that there'll be a lot of people that would agree with us.
 

bgraham34

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The question is, would guests rather get to ride the attraction, even if the design option wasn't available?

I know that me and my family would rather ride the attraction without the design cars showing up, than not ride the attraction at all - especially as there have been a lot of comments on here saying that the designs haven't been showing up anyway, and I'm sure that there'll be a lot of people that would agree with us.


I have yet to experience the new TT or the design portion and I could honestly care less about the design portion. It does not interest me one bit.
 

rsoxguy

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I went on this past week. It was shut down with no explanation until about 11:30 a.m. Ironically, the sky was looking gruesome while I waited in line, and they kept announcing that they might have to shut down due to inclement weather, but they never did shut down.
 

articos

Well-Known Member
The question is, would guests rather get to ride the attraction, even if the design option wasn't available?

I know that me and my family would rather ride the attraction without the design cars showing up, than not ride the attraction at all - especially as there have been a lot of comments on here saying that the designs haven't been showing up anyway, and I'm sure that there'll be a lot of people that would agree with us.
And the answer to that is "Absolutely." But GM seems to look at this as they spent a whole bunch of money to showcase automobile design, so by gosh, they are going to make sure the guest knows about design. The flip side to this is if people are only interested in the ride, and many could care less about the design studio, then was that wasted money that could have been used elsewhere? Just esoteric questions in new attraction design. That said, I'm glad GM put the contract clause in to prevent Ops from opening the doors - they are preserving the intent of the attraction, and the attraction's delays and downtimes will theoretically be less and less.

The integration is still being worked on, so the custom designs should start showing more and more in the coming months.
 

DDPGambit

Member
So I'm confused. On Saturday morning at a few minutes past 9, the standby line was closed and all guests were entering in the Fast Pass line, thereby bypassing the regular design center. We were of course invited to use the design stations in the fp que. Does this mean that as long as some of the design stations are open then the ride can be?
 

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