Terrifying WEDWAY (TTA) experience

WEDisney

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Yes you read the post right. This past August my family and I were heading to one of our favorite attractions, WEDWAY. We got on the conveyor belt that takes you to the top of the platform where you board. When we reached the platform there was a blockage. Something happened on the platform that caused the queue to stop but the conveyor belt continued to pour people up into the mob on the platform. People started screaming for the ride operator to stop the conveyor belt but both workers looked like a deer in headlights. I was holding my 8 month old daughter when I saw two little arms lying under a pile of adults. I still don’t know how I did it but I reached down (still holding my 8 month old) and pulled the kids (who had to be 3 and 5) out from under the pile of adults. They were crying and visibly shaking but seemed unhurt. The conveyor continued to pour people up onto the platform as parents and kids screamed and cried. My brother and I were pulling kids out of the pile left and right and giving them to people behind us who were placing them out of harms way. It was like something out of a disaster film. All this while the workers stood there not knowing what to do. Once it was over the mother (of the children I pulled out) came to me crying and hugged me. There was a language barrier so I don’t know what she actually said.

After this happened we demanded to see a manager because if this happens again the cast members HAVE to know what to do. We spoke with a manager who apologized and told us to head to city hall to log a report. At City Hall the nice woman behind the desk tried to handle the situation by offering us fast passes. We informed her that we were not doing this to receive something but because there was a failure of the system. She kept using the term a “potential threat” and finally we demanded another manager because there was nothing “potential” about it. It happened. It was a threat. Maybe because no one was seriously injured or died they considered it a “potential threat”. We waited about 10 minutes and the senior manager in charge of all the attractions came to meet with us. He took down all the information and was very helpful. We assured him that we wanted nothing out of this and that our main concern was that it didn’t happen again. He assured us that steps would be taken but because of unions and rules he was not allowed to approach the cast members directly but will be allowed to once the incident was logged. We talked to him for over an hour as calls came across his radio that he ignored. We have no idea if anything was done or safeguards were put in place but I was a little upset about the way Disney handled it all. Until we got the senior manager we were being bought off as if that’s all the people want (unfortunately most do). In the end the manager seemed like he was on the ball and even offered to take us around the park as his guests the next day. We declined.

Has anyone seen anything like this? We are annual pass holders for the past 15 years and I have been to Disney World over 100 times (not bad for living in NY) and this was the first time I feel like they really dropped the ball. I was there on Sept. 11th and I was so amazed at how calmly they handled everything and I even found out about the safeguards they had in place in case it they were a target (room for every guest and cast member in the utilidors if needed, not sure if it could be done but I bet they would try). Something like this one of the most tame rides in the park was overwhelming. I have to say that it took me a couple of days to recover from the fear and adrenaline rush. We did ride WEDWAY during the trip again and the ride went off without a hitch. It is still one my favorite rides but I will never forget the screams of the parents as their kids were being squashed.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
There has been issues with the ascent belt and load belt in the past; I recall this being reported here before. I can`t recall if the ascent belt has E-stop buttons - if not then the entire system should have been E Stopped. In busy times there is usually a greeter at the entrance to regulate guests entering the ramp. It looks like the system failed big time. Some CMs (a very few I`m glad to say) need better training or need to be more alert. Not nearly on the same level, but showing inexperienced CMs at load, I rode Gran Fiesta with the work lights on in July. I told this to the dispatcher and she just looked at me and went "oh.... I didn`t know...." - if this was someone who didn`t know their attraction was floodlit, it dosn`t give much hope there arn`t others who can`t handle a rapidly developing situation like your TTA incident.
 

ZapperZ

Well-Known Member
That is really strange that the cast members either did not know of the emergency stop to the conveyor belt, or were not allowed to stop it. Considering that they can either slow down or stop certain attractions to accommodate disabled guests to get on or off those attractions, one would think that stopping a moving belt would be something that they were trained to do.

I haven't at anything like that happening, luckily. The closest to something similar was on an escalator going down while I was in Vegas many years ago. Some group of people decided that they were going to figure out where they would want to go just as soon as they got off the escalator. So they just stood there while they looked around, ignoring the fact that there's an escalator full of people behind them about to crash into them. And I was the first. I got off the escalator, and the people behind me started piling up and pushing me into them and you can see a bunch of people suddenly falling over other people. Luckily, we all managed to get out of the way pretty fast. Other than a few people getting yelled at for being stupid, we all moved on...

BTW, did you ever find out on what caused the back up in the first place?

Zz.
 

SpongeScott

Well-Known Member
That is really strange that the cast members either did not know of the emergency stop to the conveyor belt, or were not allowed to stop it. Considering that they can either slow down or stop certain attractions to accommodate disabled guests to get on or off those attractions, one would think that stopping a moving belt would be something that they were trained to do.

I haven't at anything like that happening, luckily. The closest to something similar was on an escalator going down while I was in Vegas many years ago. Some group of people decided that they were going to figure out where they would want to go just as soon as they got off the escalator. So they just stood there while they looked around, ignoring the fact that there's an escalator full of people behind them about to crash into them. And I was the first. I got off the escalator, and the people behind me started piling up and pushing me into them and you can see a bunch of people suddenly falling over other people. Luckily, we all managed to get out of the way pretty fast. Other than a few people getting yelled at for being stupid, we all moved on...

BTW, did you ever find out on what caused the back up in the first place?

Zz.
And you have touched on one of my WDW pet peeves--groups of people who stop in the middle of intended walkways to chat or decide what to do next. All it takes is moving to the side for said discussion, not where all the people are trying to transport through.
 

dvitali

Active Member
And you have touched on one of my WDW pet peeves--groups of people who stop in the middle of intended walkways to chat or decide what to do next. All it takes is moving to the side for said discussion, not where all the people are trying to transport through.
That also one my pet peeves everywhere in the world. Just got back from a day trip to NYC and people was stopping fast in the middle of intersection just to talk or decide where to go with car turning into the intersection. Also People please take your talking or deciding away from the entrance of the stores so other people behind you whould like to go in also.
 

Kelsybelle

Active Member
I was holding my 8 month old daughter when I saw two little arms lying under a pile of adults. I still don’t know how I did it but I reached down (still holding my 8 month old) and pulled the kids (who had to be 3 and 5) out from under the pile of adults. They were crying and visibly shaking but seemed unhurt. The conveyor continued to pour people up onto the platform as parents and kids screamed and cried. My brother and I were pulling kids out of the pile left and right and giving them to people behind us who were placing them out of harms way. It was like something out of a disaster film. All this while the workers stood there not knowing what to do.

Thank goodness you and your brother were there! That is an absolutely terrifying thing to have happen and I'm surprised that the workers didn't do anything...:shrug:
 

Amber

6+4+3=2
Premium Member
The same thing happened once when I was there. Not a lot of people were involved, maybe 15 tops, and there was no screaming or anything like that. We were all laughing about how when we are all at Disney World we are all family, and sometimes we have to be pretty close. None of the CMs seemed to have any idea what was going on, and since I'm a trainer myself I definitely saw it as a training opportunity. No one really saw it as any sort of emergency though. :shrug:
 

wdwmagic

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Premium Member
I've personally seen this happen in the last year. It didnt get to the point where people were curshed, but it was getting pretty close.
 

smk

Well-Known Member
And you have touched on one of my WDW pet peeves--groups of people who stop in the middle of intended walkways to chat or decide what to do next. All it takes is moving to the side for said discussion, not where all the people are trying to transport through.
Sad to say the my DH is often guilty of this exact thing. I always pull him aside and out of the right of way to look at a map or discuss our next ride etc...I am mindful of the right of way and appreciate others doing the same thing.

To the OP, good job helping others! I know that I would have been very grateful to anyone who helped me in that situation.
 

Space Mountain

Well-Known Member
Time to give answers :)


The greeter cast member at the entrance of TTA is responsible for keeping the load belt clear. They are supposed to stop groups from entering when the load platform backs up. They do not actually turn off the belt however. Load 1, who lets you get into your car is resposible for turning off the belt if needed. There is a small switch along the queue rail to turn off the belt. There is also an E-Stop on the control panel but that it not usually the method used to stop the belt.

When in August did you visit? There is a new batch of ICP and CP cast members that come in and chances are they were recently trained and did not remember the procedure for stopping the belt.


So please know there are procedures in place and they have been in place for a long time. The problem is making sure the CM is always paying attention to the queue and not daydreaming.
 

PolyneisanAlex

New Member
Was this at night because i was there August 25th-31 it might of been on the TTA 30th when this happened i was wondering why it had a hold up we were at the bottom of it i hope it was the same time because that would mean it happened twice
 

Glasgow

Well-Known Member
That is scary. You'd think that the number one thing, numero uno, for any worker dealing with the general public would be safety. How can the e-stop button or what to do in an emergency situation not be obvious, even to the most inexperienced CM? That is ridiculous.
 

MissM

Well-Known Member
I've seen it happen a couple of times in the last few years also.
Yeah I was going to say the same thing. Not often, but I have seen it happen. I've been squished into people before because of it happening. And yeah, the CM at the bottom normally breaks up the intake flow to ensure there's not too many people on the ramp but it definitely doesn't always work that way.
 

Disney05

Well-Known Member
And you have touched on one of my WDW pet peeves--groups of people who stop in the middle of intended walkways to chat or decide what to do next. All it takes is moving to the side for said discussion, not where all the people are trying to transport through.
Wow, we just got back this past week and we were discussing the same thing! Drove us nuts. The crowds were huge so it made it that much worse.
 

coasterphil

Well-Known Member
Time to give answers :)


The greeter cast member at the entrance of TTA is responsible for keeping the load belt clear. They are supposed to stop groups from entering when the load platform backs up. They do not actually turn off the belt however. Load 1, who lets you get into your car is resposible for turning off the belt if needed. There is a small switch along the queue rail to turn off the belt. There is also an E-Stop on the control panel but that it not usually the method used to stop the belt.

When in August did you visit? There is a new batch of ICP and CP cast members that come in and chances are they were recently trained and did not remember the procedure for stopping the belt.


So please know there are procedures in place and they have been in place for a long time. The problem is making sure the CM is always paying attention to the queue and not daydreaming.


Are they ever warned to not stop the belt unless absolutely necessary due to the grade of the incline? Just wondering, because it seems like if CMs are told to act with any reservations that they become terrified to hit an E-Stop/System Stop/etc. when a situation arises.
 

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