Team Cap: SYWTBAI Season 14, Project Four Open Brainstorming

Pi on my Cake

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-World's Fair Walkthrough from Cap. America the First Avenger
kmb

That's so funny! I was just thinking here at work that a world's fair type walkthrough could be cool! Sorta like a turn of the century innoventions.

I have two concerns with captain America though.
1: rights issues with Universal. This would hurt out realism a lot since Disney legally can't use Marvel (other than a few select properties) on the east coast.
2: wrong time period. Main Street is very early 1900s (think between 1895 and 1905). Captain America is world war 2 era 1940s. We can fudge the timeline a bit since it's a side street, but we have to be careful with that.


I definitely really like the world's fair angle though. I think its really creative and clever. It just might be tough to use Captain America.
 

kmbmw777

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That's so funny! I was just thinking here at work that a world's fair type walkthrough could be cool! Sorta like a turn of the century innoventions.

I have two concerns with captain America though.
1: rights issues with Universal. This would hurt out realism a lot since Disney legally can't use Marvel (other than a few select properties) on the east coast.
2: wrong time period. Main Street is very early 1900s (think between 1895 and 1905). Captain America is world war 2 era 1940s. We can fudge the timeline a bit since it's a side street, but we have to be careful with that.


I definitely really like the world's fair angle though. I think its really creative and clever. It just might be tough to use Captain America.
I didn't even think of the universal rights issue! I feel silly lol. I'm trying to think of a replacement IP. The intro to Tommowland could be cool but idk. That should probably go in tomorrowland and that's way more of a time gap. I'll think on it. We could always go no IP as well
 

Pi on my Cake

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I didn't even think of the universal rights issue! I feel silly lol. I'm trying to think of a replacement IP. The intro to Tommowland could be cool but idk. That should probably go in tomorrowland and that's way more of a time gap. I'll think on it. We could always go no IP as well

Hmmmm... I think I'd vote no IP. But I'm not against IP of its the right one. I just can't think of any good fits.

Maybe we could make original characters! Like, each of us on the team is in charge of making one inventor and whatever they're presenting at the fictional 1901 World Expo
 

TrevorA

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Hi team! Good to be working with you all. I'm sorry I've been gone; there was something wrong with my account and I was prohibited from posting until I changed the email address. Fixed though!

I'm on my way home now, so I'll try to read and catch up on the brainstorming here.


---TrevorA
 

Pi on my Cake

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Hi team! Good to be working with you all. I'm sorry I've been gone; there was something wrong with my account and I was prohibited from posting until I changed the email address. Fixed though!

I'm on my way home now, so I'll try to read and catch up on the brainstorming here.


---TrevorA
So, any thoughts? We only have a few days and we need get to writing and all soon. I'd love to hear you're input before moving forward to much though.

You too @David2319 once you're back online
 

kmbmw777

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So, any thoughts? We only have a few days and we need get to writing and all soon. I'd love to hear you're input before moving forward to much though.

You too @David2319 once you're back online
Okay. I made an extremely rough draft based on ideas Pi and I seemed to like.

Rough Draft of MS.png

Green is the World Fair
Brown is the moon trip dark ride
Blue in a Tommorowland expansion
 

kmbmw777

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A-Ticket
-Main Street Citizenship award
Pi, kmb
-horse drawn carriages in park addition

B-Ticket
-Carousel in park addition
-Magic Show
-World's Fair Walkthrough
kmb, Pi

C-Ticket
-Magic Show
-Trip to the Moon Dark Ride
Pi, kmb


(@Pionmycake correct me if I am wrong :)
 

kmbmw777

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Thank you. I shall do this later. :)

A-Ticket
-Main Street Citizenship award
Pi, kmb
-horse drawn carriages in park addition

B-Ticket
-Carousel in park addition
-Magic Show
-World's Fair Walkthrough
kmb, Pi

C-Ticket
-Magic Show
-Trip to the Moon Dark Ride
Pi, kmb


(@Pionmycake correct me if I am wrong :)
Since David is taking a break 2 votes means majority so I think we should continue.
 

Pi on my Cake

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Okay. I made an extremely rough draft based on ideas Pi and I seemed to like.

View attachment 191901
Green is the World Fair
Brown is the moon trip dark ride
Blue in a Tommorowland expansion
I like this layout, only thing of change is make the world's fair to up along the main street bypass instead of out. That will give us more room for Trip to the Moon and allow us to keep the bypass.

What part do you want to write up? I agree we should start working on this now, we seem to have a pretty good A, B, and C
 

kmbmw777

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I like this layout, only thing of change is make the world's fair to up along the main street bypass instead of out. That will give us more room for Trip to the Moon and allow us to keep the bypass.

What part do you want to write up? I agree we should start working on this now, we seem to have a pretty good A, B, and C
I can do the people and the fair if you would like to do the trip to the moon. Also I'm making a website.
 

TrevorA

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A-Ticket
-Main Street Citizenship award
Pi, kmb
-horse drawn carriages in park addition

B-Ticket
-Carousel in park addition
-Magic Show
-World's Fair Walkthrough
kmb, Pi

C-Ticket
-Magic Show
-Trip to the Moon Dark Ride
Pi, kmb


(@Pionmycake correct me if I am wrong :)

Back for good now. So are we picking one of each out of this list?


---TrevorA
 

TrevorA

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I really like the Trip to the Moon idea! I would have never thought of something like that myself, but it super works for Magic Kingdom. They've always had attractions based on classic adventure novels*, and this only seems like a half-step removed from that.


---TrevorA

*technically only novels that WDS has adapted into movies, but whatever it's still good.
 

TrevorA

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For the A and B ticket, I think I'm getting that the idea is to implement a park section of Main Street, and have carriages through it and a carousel maybe? Magic Kingdom already has a large city park area on Main Street and they operate horse drawn carriages through it every day. I figured you two were going for something different, so help me understand this one!


---TrevorA
 

TrevorA

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Last comment for now:

Is the magic show completely off the table? Because I see a lot of potential in that idea!


---TrevorA
 

TrevorA

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I thought of one more thing. What we could do for the Trip to the Moon attractions footprint is replace the Tomorrowland Terrace restaurant completely and add it there. Three reasons why I stand by this idea:

1. At any given point in the year, TLT is either closed or open and nobody is eating there. It doesn't alleviate the crowding at Casey's Corner or Lunching Pad or Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe. The only milage TDO gets out of it is for Wishes Dessert Parties. If we build an outdoor rooftop balcony on top of the new show building or something pretty on the water for dessert parties, we solve that problem.

2. The architectural transition from Main Street to Tomorrowland is nonexistent. There appears to have been little effort made there to blend the lands, compared to more effective areas like the gorgeous Liberty Square/Fantasyland crossover. We have a good opportunity to build something like a Jules Verne-looking show building with all the ornate brass fixtures that simultaneously complements the Plaza Restaurant's vibe next door to the south and works as a piece of connecting tissue to the Tomorrowland Expo Center next door to the east. We'd almost be building a little theater district.

3. The issue that comes up now is, why have an attraction based around a movie and not use the existing facades of the Main Street Exposition Hall or the Main Street Cinema as entry point, since both places have shown movies over Magic Kingdom's lifetime. We might be able to still use the Expo Hall or Cinema for the entrance and still have the show building at TLT like I suggested. I imagine a revival of the old Penny Arcade on a grander scale over near the transition between Main Street and Tomorrowland. It can function as:

a) a way to conceal the ride
b) an exit area for the ride
c) a meaningful transition to Tomorrowland that works architecturally and thematically
d) a dedicated location for the fireworks dessert parties
e) a fulfillment of our A-ticket requirement for this assignment

I don't want to step on anyone's toes, so we absolutely don't have to do this. I just have a fair amount of insight when it comes to MK and the idea just came to me. I'm coming late to the project so @Pionmycake and @kmbmw777 , your ideas take precedence over mine! No hard feelings :)


---TrevorA
 

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