Are people remembering that people were saying the same thing about cratering attendance in both 2023 and 2024 and the TEA numbers showed that that was not the case?
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TEA Global Attendance Index is out
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Disney's capacity was strained pre-pandemic (their fault for not increasing capacity in the previous decades).
Disney doesn't want to return to pre-pandemic numbers until the investment in increased capacity is actualized.
Disney doesn't want to return to pre-pandemic numbers until the investment in increased capacity is actualized.
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How many days per year is that “starting at” price valid for.So, what you’re saying is that in 2026, I can pay as low as $139/ticket for one day at Magic Kingdom, but in 2019 the lowest was $109 plus a parking fee at the resort. And if I just have to have park hopping, it’ll be $197, an increase of $33 over 2019 ($164). And I’m supposed to be mad about this, especially given that the minimum wage at the resort increased by a higher percent than the minimum park hopping ticket price? I don’t think so.
However, I did recently pay $174 plus tax for a single park one-day ticket at Epic (cheapest ticket price is $139, same as MK). And my visit was plagued by the foul smell of the sewage treatment plant all day long.
Meanwhile, single day Disneyland tickets are going for as little as $104.
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I’ll wait. I bet you don’t even need to take off your shoes and socks to count it too.
Stripes
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The $104 ticket is good for at least 32 days through April 21st.
We’re almost three years past unprecedented demand, with billions of dollars of “activations” (god I hate that stupid term) that have come online since.
2024 was essentially flat from 2023 and that still is 15% off of peak. So yeah compared to 2019 it did crater. People were traveling, cruising, vacationing, but Disney didn’t reap that surge to the extent other leisure options did.
So yeah, since normal has returned Disney has underperformed. YOY they can claim a victory I guess, and with that sweet LL OI coming in they can cover it up pretty well…until they can’t. Then it burns down.
The lowest pricing for MK tickets is good only on 5 whole days.
Stripes
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And if saving $10/$20 a person is that critical, you can make it happen on one of those days, LOL! In my opinion, the parks are still a great value at those slightly higher rates. In any event, I don’t think very many people buy single day tickets to WDW. Most people buy multi-day tickets or vacation packages. At Disneyland, there’s much higher demand for single-day tickets, and they’ve kept the prices very reasonable for those guests.
Maybe Disney should follow OLC and sell only 1-day tickets for $70 and get rid of annual passes entirely? Or, maybe, Disney should just keep doing what they’re doing since attendance is increasing YoY and their attendance and operating income is growing faster than their primary competitor?
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Nubs70
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Is a gate click a gate click or is a regular gate click greater than a hard ticket gate click?
Years ago when I went to Epcot during the day then the hard ticket Christmas party at night, did my attendance for the day count as 1 click or 2 clicks?
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Please edit your previous comment as it is factually wrong. The lowest cost single day ticket at the Walt Disney World resort is $119 plus tax for the Animal Kingdom, which is only available for five days at the lowest pricing tier.
Your $104 plus tax single day ticket number refers to the Disneyland resort in California.
With regards to spending your own money, you do you. It does seem, however, that more and more people are making other decisions about their leisure travel, which do not include the Walt Disney World resort with price being a key factor.
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They did the great night-time experiment just prior to COVID. Closing it earlier again likely cut into the numbers somewhat...
Stripes
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And, again, that’s simply not true. Attendance is increasing YoY. To the extent that attendance is down versus 2019, that’s a good thing for guest satisfaction, and apparently it’s good for the company. Walt Disney World recently set a new Q3 revenue record.
You did not follow my prior conversation with Haunted Pirate, and I will not be editing anything as there is nothing contradictory about my posts and the ”facts” you provided. I made explicitly clear that the $104 refers to the Disneyland Resort. I also count 20 days at $119 for DAK in 2026, not 5.
However, you need to edit and correct your post, as it is factually incorrect. There is no tax charged on Disneyland tickets. See below.
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LSLS
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I really think Universal is following the pricing trend at Disney because it thinks people will pay, but the issue is they don't have nearly the nostalgia built up for it. We are going to go to Universal this year for 4-5 days and see everything. There is 0 chance we will be back any time soon, cause there is no chance it is worth the almost $5k it's going to cost. I have a feeling Universal will post gains this year, then drop even further in the 2027 (maybe even 2026) reports.
LSLS
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See, but that's what I keep pointing out. According to the wait time numbers, you wait LONGER now than in 2019. Who cares if there were more people, the metrics you would really notice (waiting in line for rides/food) are longer now than they were in 2019. And that doesn't include that you had the option to skip lines back then without paying an insane extra price.
How much is it down from peak levels?
We’re at roughly 2012 numbers right now. And please don’t go whining that it’s Covid.
And you’d be wrong
And in your quote, you did not reference to Disneyland since we were talking between you and me about Disney World.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to because there is at leastan 8.5%sales tax added to all ticket purchases at the Disneyland resort.
LittleBuford
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You can try it for yourself (I just did); there is no sales tax.
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Stripes
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Walt Disney World just set a new all-time record for Q3 revenue. Walt Disney World is currently at peak levels of financial performance.
I believe a major contributor to the decreased attendance at WDW (versus 2019) is the strength of the dollar versus other major currencies as well as other geopolitical factors, which has significantly reduced international visitation to the United States since 2019.
In your vague post (#123), you quoted my post (#102), where I specifically referred to Disneyland tickets being as low as $104. I assumed you’d be able to follow.
Your post (#123) was vague and simply asked: “How many days per year is that ‘starting at’ price valid for.” I assumed you meant the starting price for a U.S. Disney park. You only clarified that you meant MK in a later post (#126). You can’t blame me for responding to a vague question with an answer you didn’t want to hear.
Wrong again. See for yourself.
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el_super
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That is on purpose. No one wants a crowded park. They have literally been saying this for years now. Meanwhile revenue is up some 30% since 2019 and no one is worried about where attendance is, except those desperately clinging to any bad news they can find.
DisneyCane
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CR is a fantastic ride. The only issue for me is the motion sickness. The ride is so much fun that I try to ride once every two or three times I visit Epcot (I'm a passholder) and just deal with feeling like my head is spinning and my stomach is unsettled for 10 minutes or so afterwards.
jah4955
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Thanks for the warning. I'll make sure I go on an empty stomach (if I ever go). It's hard to think of a worse thing than motion sickness. Head to toe...want to say more but don't want to trigger the censors lol!