SW Land Size: DLR vs DHS

[Raineman]

I'd like to preface this post by first saying none of what is in this post is official-all fan-based speculation, but it definitely seems as if SW Land at DHS might have much more space than SW Land at DLR, if the areas that are proposed in the pics are where the new additions are built.

The first pic shows the approximated area that SW Land at DLR will go, mostly based on the renderings recently released. The second pic shows where SW Land may go (only based on the assumption that it will be built directly behind the Star Tours area). Both pics are set to the same scale.
Thoughts? Will SW Land at DHS have more space to work with, and have more, larger scale attractions than DLR? Am I way off base on where these lands will go?

 

[dizda]

At DL, I believe that SWL will also include the currently backstage areas north of the area that you outlined in red.

 

[danlb_2000]

I'd like to preface this post by first saying none of what is in this post is official-all fan-based speculation, but it definitely seems as if SW Land at DHS might have much more space than SW Land at DLR, if the areas that are proposed in the pics are where the new additions are built.
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The first pic shows the approximated area that SW Land at DLR will go, mostly based on the renderings recently released. The second pic shows where SW Land may go (only based on the assumption that it will be built directly behind the Star Tours area). Both pics are set to the same scale.
Thoughts? Will SW Land at DHS have more space to work with, and have more, larger scale attractions than DLR? Am I way off base on where these lands will go?

That is not where SWL is going at DHS, permits have indicated that that most of that land is going to become parking. It's very unlikely that there will be different rides between the two parks.

 

[marni1971]

Don't believe either of those plots.

 

[WDWVolFan]

It's time for WDW to have something better than DL...sick and tired of the west coast getting all of the best and WDW getting the leftovers.

 

[Raineman]

Don't believe either of those plots.

The DLR plot is pretty much entirely based on the just-released renderings for the new RoA/Disneyland RR. The renderings are fairly vague, but it seems to be the general consensus that that is the corner of DL where SW Land will be built. Doesn't mean it's right, though. And I would be very curious to find out where SW Land at DHS will be built, if not in that area.

 

[marni1971]

The DLR plot is pretty much entirely based on the just-released renderings for the new RoA/Disneyland RR. The renderings are fairly vague, but it seems to be the general consensus that that is the corner of DL where SW Land will be built. Doesn't mean it's right, though. And I would be very curious to find out where SW Land at DHS will be built, if not in that area.

Take the DLR area and carry on pushing north into the backstage area.

 

[Mystic]

Your area for Star Wars land at Disneyland isn't big enough and it's not actually taking over the River area. They have to shut the River down and the other attractions in that area so that they can get the construction area organized. Here is a more recent picture of where Star Wars Land is slated to be at DL.

 

[marni1971]

Your area for Star Wars land at Disneyland isn't big enough and it's not actually taking over the River area. They have to shut the River down and the other attractions in that area so that they can get the construction area organized. Here is a more recent picture of where Star Wars Land is slated to be at DL.

SWL in DL is sadly taking some of ROA with it. The river will be reduced.

 

[danyoung56]

It's time for WDW to have something better than DL...sick and tired of the west coast getting all of the best and WDW getting the leftovers.

New Fantasyland? Seven Dwarfs Mine Train? A totally retooled Downtown Disney? AvatarLand? Seems like WDW is getting some pretty good stuff.

 

[marni1971]

New Fantasyland? Seven Dwarfs Mine Train? A totally retooled Downtown Disney? AvatarLand? Seems like WDW is getting some pretty good stuff.

Depends on your definition of style vs substance. Avland could be a turning point. DAK needs it to be.

 

[Raineman]

Depends on your definition of style vs substance. Avland could be a turning point. DAK needs it to be.

Avatar Land is definitely important for DAK, but I think SW Land & Toys Land are more important and more crucial to DHS' future. Without Pandora, DAK is still a good park. Without SW or Toys Land, DHS would be dying a slow death. Sad to see, given what the park was like in the early 90s.

 

[TP2000]

Since there's a real dearth of info from Disney and insiders on the location/size of Star Wars Land at DHS, we'll need to keep using Disneyland as the example here and extrapolate what it may mean for DHS.

Using the official WDI concept art that Disney released on Monday for the re-routed Rivers of America and Disneyland Railroad, forum member @phruby took that artwork and the rumblings from several solid insiders and created this fantastic overview of the Star Wars Land impact on Disneyland. @phruby posted this in the Disneyland section, but it works here too.

Map by @phruby

The Mark Twain and riverbank at the middle of that image was taken from the official WDI artwork released Monday. The Rivers of America and Disneyland Railroad closed on Monday for two years while demolition and construction on this new riverbank and re-routed railroad begins.

Although some CM insiders have now said that all of the backstage buildings to the left of the blue shaded box are also being demolished this week and the construction footprint extends all the way to Disneyland Drive on the west, so this image is a bit conservative in its size.

What would be interesting is if someone could take the similar sized area, minus the Rivers of America southern periphery, and translate it to where that might work in DHS.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The two lands are intended to be identical.

 

[Jon81uk]

The two lands are intended to be identical.

Although Star Tours will at least be adjacent to WDWs whereas at DLR Star Tours will remain in Tommorowland?

 

[Christian Fronckowiak]

Although Star Tours will at least be adjacent to WDWs whereas at DLR Star Tours will remain in Tommorowland?

Either that, or the rumor of the Iron Man Experience from HKDL replacing it.

 

[truecoat]

This is quite rough but shows an approx representation of the new train path and Tom Sawyer Island reduction.

 

[TP2000]

The two lands are intended to be identical.

True. But there appear to be some major differences that will dictate changes for DHS. It's a safe bet that Star Tours will remain in DHS and be included in Star Wars Land there, perhaps receiving a makeover to fit better into the storyline of a "distant planet outpost". That alone should trigger some decent changes.

And then the footprint of the land itself. The Disneyland footprint is becoming quite clear in the past few weeks, and we even have WDI artwork now of how the southern periphery plugs into the rest of Disneyland. The Disneyland footprint can be seen by the southern periphery of the river, the eastern periphery of Toontown and Circle D property, and western periphery of the tram route along Disneyland Drive.

I can't imagine they'll literally cut and paste that footprint for DHS, can you?

 

[WondersOfLife]

It's time for WDW to have something better than DL...sick and tired of the west coast getting all of the best and WDW getting the leftovers.

Well our better duplicates of DL are Splash Mountain, Little Mermaid ride (exterior. Attraction is the same), An operational Peoplemover, tower of terror, and I guess The Haunted Mansion.

But Disney World has a LOT more attractions that Disneyland doesn't have, so WDW has that going for em.

 

[TP2000]

But Disney World has a LOT more attractions that Disneyland doesn't have, so WDW has that going for em.

That's a common misperception. There are currently 55 rides at Disneyland in the two parks combined, and there are 46 rides at WDW in the four parks combined.

Then there's the non-ride "attractions", like the shopping/dining plazas that make up the various World Showcase pavilions without rides (Japan, Italy, Germany, UK, Morocco, etc.), the various stage shows or theater attractions, walk-thru exhibits, etc. The tally including "attractions", even if you count every World Showcase pavilion as one attraction even if its just gift shops and a restaurant, is remarkably close.

There are currently 22 non-ride attractions at Disneyland in the two parks combined, and there are 39 non-ride attractions at WDW in the four parks combined.

The total of all ride and non-ride attractions is 77 Attractions at Disneyland Resort's two parks, and 86 Attractions at Walt Disney World's four parks.