Studios search lights missing?

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Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
Those trees and bushes make me wanna say somewhere near Epcot, but the industrial style of the lamp post makes me think HS. Both complete guesses though.
 

BrerJon

Well-Known Member
The planning for all of this started months ago - you have to realize, Disney and Universal don't work on short timelines. When something happens, the plans have been in the works for months or years.

That's no great claim considering the hat was standing for over a decade with nobody at Disney being the slightest bit bothered by it. Those plans should have been started ten years ago, not months ago.
 

articos

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Thats a cool story. It is now on my 'must do' list for our next trip. The little things like that excite us just as much as an E ticket.
Glad you appreciate. Was walking on property a few years back, walked past it, stopped and realized it's one of the 70s/80s era original lightposts. A little worse for the wear, but still there. One of those little things that reminds me of early MK/TTC/Epcot Center.
 

Sage of Time

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Everyone is still giving TCM too much credit as to decisions that they have no purview over. Turner's deal adds their brand to the existing attraction, essentially as an overlay with some updates. It's nowhere near what people around here are ascribing it to.
I think they'd have some say about how the brand of the GMR is regarded, though. For example, the exterior.
 

articos

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I think they'd have some say about how the brand of the GMR is regarded, though. For example, the exterior.
You'd think, but no. GMR is an existing well-regarded attraction. This is a fairly small sponsorship deal. TCM is adding their brand inside, and putting their name on it, but items like the spotlights and the look of the building are not something TCM has input on aside from being reassured the building will be getting a new coat of paint and will look good being at the end of the blvd again. If someone within TCM remembers there are spots up there, they can ask if they can be relit, but that's the extent of it. They get their value from adding their content inside and putting their name on the attraction. The spires were already planned to return. If they were putting a ton of cash into building something new, like GM/Chevy deciding they wanted to rebuild TT or a new sponsor coming in and redoing Imagination, then they would get input on the exterior, with Disney having final say. That's not what this is. In this case, with a well known building that is a marquee, a sponsor doesn't have that type of control. Would be similar to a sponsor asking to alter Spaceship Earth - not going to happen.
 
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wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
Glad you appreciate. Was walking on property a few years back, walked past it, stopped and realized it's one of the 70s/80s era original lightposts. A little worse for the wear, but still there. One of those little things that reminds me of early MK/TTC/Epcot Center.
Those 'little' things make a such a BIG impact on us (wife and I). Its like being frozen in time for a moment. To think about the people who installed that light decades ago and all the changes that have happened around it while the light post remained constant. I love just placing my hand on something like that and thinking about how some person or people placed it there once and now here I am over 40 years later standing in the same spot with it. Sounds silly, but I think objects can hold the energy of a time and era from when they came, not in some spiritual sense, just the energy to help you imagine what that scene looked liked all those years ago when it was installed. The different types of cars passing by, the sight lines, the sounds, the people and the clothing style. Good stuff, sir.
 

articos

Well-Known Member
Those 'little' things make a such a BIG impact on us (wife and I). Its like being frozen in time for a moment. To think about the people who installed that light decades ago and all the changes that have happened around it while the light post remained constant. I love just placing my hand on something like that and thinking about how some person or people placed it there once and now here I am over 40 years later standing in the same spot with it. Sounds silly, but I think objects can hold the energy of a time and era from when they came, not in some spiritual sense, just the energy to help you imagine what that scene looked liked all those years ago when it was installed. The different types of cars passing by, the sight lines, the sounds, the people and the clothing style. Good stuff, sir.
You, sir, are one of the good ones. :) And thanks.
 

kgaf99

Active Member
Everyone else is neck deep in conspracies so I will get on the ball too. I bet the lights are gone because they are being refurb'ed and they will make a grand return with the hideous hat disappears. It only makes sense right. :lookaroun

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That just made about as much sense as props from something defunct showing up in a back lot as a sign that it is returning. :ROFLOL:

i could care less about those stupid lights and more about where i can get a gem of a haircut like the guy in this pic!!!!!!!!! LMAO
 

BrerJon

Well-Known Member
That's not what this is. In this case, with a well known building that is a marquee, a sponsor doesn't have that type of control. Would be similar to a sponsor asking to alter Spaceship Earth - not going to happen.

I thought Siemens were the ones who asked for the wand to be removed, or is that just an urban legend?
 

articos

Well-Known Member
I thought Siemens were the ones who asked for the wand to be removed, or is that just an urban legend?
Not quite. So, when I say it would be similar to asking a sponsor to alter SE, I mean the geodesic dome/building. The Theatre is an icon at the end of the Blvd. You don't get to mess with that lightly, just like SE. The wand was not part of SE, as it was essentially a (tacky) decoration. It was not intended to be permanent no matter what Disney execs were quoted saying - it was another 15 month installation. The decision to build it was Disney, and the decision to take it down was Disney. Same thing - it was a temporary installation that overstayed its welcome. Siemens was not a fan of it and said so, but not their call. On the other hand, the fact they were enabling a redo of SE gave the company an excuse to make the decision, bring in the crane and dismantle the wand. So, inadvertently, yes, Siemens and the change of sponsorship contributed to the timing of the wand coming down, but it was not Siemens saying "we own this attraction, take the wand out".

Here's the other thing to think about with sponsorships - even though people think of it as a corporation, most of the time there's just some Director or Vice President level guy or gal at these corporations who have to run it up their chain, get the budget allocated, negotiate a contract between their in-house legal and Disney legal and Disney Corporate Alliances, then they have to manage that relationship. And they are responsible for the ROI on the millions of dollars they are putting their jobs on the line for by saying we should take this large amount of money and put it towards Disney. It's essentially one or two people in a corporate structure who sit in a room or get on the phone and they work out what works for both parties. Many of the people in these positions may have a decent knowledge of the attractions or the parks, or they may have no knowledge whatsoever. They say what they want to achieve with their sponsorship, then Disney goes away and provides options via WDI or other corporate synergy groups. Then it's all worked out together. In rare cases like Chevy, GM was more involved, but even there, that was a working partnership led by WDI as far as creative goes for the attraction, and GM knew the ropes from the history. So sponsors don't get to dictate. It's a working partnership. Make sense?
 
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Goofyernmost

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I was referring to the dozens of searchlights PI used to have.
Yes, I know... just saying that nothing about the place impressed me including the lights. To me it equaled massive overkill for such a "meh" place. I guess we all just see things differently. Like PoTC... Whatever floats one's boat! :)
 

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