'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

MickeyMouse10

MickeyMouse10

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TwilightZone said:
Princess and animals. Zootopia, Lady & the Tramp, Lilo & Stitch (to an extent). Massive money makers.
Though Pixar did make Wall E, and that did super well, so I guess sci fi animation could work if the story is really good and it starred a cute non human character.
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That's true, I didn't think of that. Animals are a big draw as well like The Lion King. I guess Disney just has to stay away from STRANGE stuff. Stuff that the masses don't want to see.
 
Phroobar

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Andrew C said:
Strange World...apparently this generation's Home on the Range

The ups and downs of Disney Animation is interesting. It's like they got a good decade in them before it falls apart.
1990s: Good
2000s: Bad
2010s: Good
2020s: Bad?
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Kind of like Star Trek movies. The even number movies are good. The odd number movies are bad.

1970s: Bad but we loved them anyway even without Walt.
1980s: Bad
1990s: Good
2000s: Bad
2010s: Good
2020s: Bad?
 
Heppenheimer

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TwilightZone said:
I think that one issue behind Strange Worlds & Lightyear is their locations. In most disney flicks, they either take place in one colorful and fun location or they travel across different unique locations.

Lightyear takes place in dull brown and grey planet, Strange World takes place in a divisive pepto bismol pink planet.

People would look at one trailer and think "wait that's it? that looks boring/gross, I don't want to see that" and move on with their day.
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That's one of the reasons I found Onward uninspiring. I get that part of the point of the film was that their fantasy world had become stale and boring. But that still doesn't mean I want to spend my spare time watching a world that looks like suburban Ohio.
 
Heppenheimer

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MickeyMouse10 said:
It goes with the Disney Formula (, but thankfully not Pixar). It's a weird cycle that is for some reason on repeat with Disney. The Disney Renaissance in the late 80's to mid 90's was started because they went back to their Bread and Butter.... Princesses. The thing that made Disney a household name and was adored by many. Over the years they've made lots of money with this subject matter. Then (every time) they start thinking their poop doesn't stink and they can make anything and be a success. So they begin experimenting with Non Princess stuff. .... And what happens??? Most of them of course end up failing and they have go back to their reliable Princesses.

Well the dark times are back.

How many times are they going to do a Sci Fi movie? They never do good, stick to what you do good.

Princess = $$$
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I would go more broadly... fairy tales and animals.

Has any animation studio really had consistent success with science fiction? It just seems like a genre that doesn't gel well with feature-length animation.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Heppenheimer said:
I would go more broadly... fairy tales and animals.

Has any animation studio really had consistent success with science fiction? It just seems like a genre that doesn't gel well with feature-length animation.
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There is some classic scifi animation out there. However it is mostly Japanese anime and usually not aimed at children.
However, Studio Ghibli has some great animated scifi and fantasy. They don't need princesses.
 
CaptainAmerica

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Phroobar said:
There is some classic scifi animation out there. However it is mostly Japanese anime and usually not aimed at children.
However, Studio Ghibli has some great animated scifi and fantasy. They don't need princesses.
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American audiences do not want Japanese content unless it's Mario.
 
Heppenheimer

Heppenheimer

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Phroobar said:
There is some classic scifi animation out there. However it is mostly Japanese anime and usually not aimed at children.
However, Studio Ghibli has some great animated scifi and fantasy. They don't need princesses.
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Even Studo Ghibli with am assist from Disney is still somewhat niche. Everyone knows The Little Mermaid, but how much name recognition is there for Spirited Away outside of anime fans?
 
networkpro

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Phroobar said:
There is some classic scifi animation out there. However it is mostly Japanese anime and usually not aimed at children.
However, Studio Ghibli has some great animated scifi and fantasy. They don't need princesses.
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Studio Ghibli is pretty weird (by American standards), and tells stories from a non-American traditional cultural perspective.

Now if Disney would replace what few trams remain with a Catbus....
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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Phroobar said:
That explains the lack of popularity for the Daiso stores, video games, Godzilla, Totoro and Hello Kitty. People hate sushi.
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I agree with cap to an extent. Most Japanese content isn't mainstream popular. That doesn't mean it isn't popular. It has its following for sure. But if you are looking for that mega blockbuster, it probably isn't coming from Japanese content like anime. Godzilla only did 200mil domestic and the sequel half of that. Ghost in the shell did like 40mil. Video games have the most success overall. Mario, Sonic, Final fantasy, Pokemon... All very successful. But like most video games, have struggled with the transition to film. Personally I think Mario will do well. Will it finally break the video game film trend? I hope so. But even a film based on Pokemon wasn't a barn burner. And I figured that would have killed it.
 
RobWDW1971

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As expected with the lowest CinemaScore in the history of Disney animation, the forecast for Strange World's second weekend looks bleak. This is why studios focus so strongly on the exit scores as they historically are a strong predictor of whether a film will have sustained legs or quickly disappear.

Even with no new family films entering the marketplace, Box Office Pro has a weekend on 4,000+ screens of only $5.9M or a drop of 50%+ off of its historically poor opening. Note that Box Office Pro has overestimated this film's performance at every stage to date as expectations for this film have no floor.

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Phroobar

Phroobar

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erasure fan1 said:
I agree with cap to an extent. Most Japanese content isn't mainstream popular. That doesn't mean it isn't popular. It has its following for sure. But if you are looking for that mega blockbuster, it probably isn't coming from Japanese content like anime. Godzilla only did 200mil domestic and the sequel half of that. Ghost in the shell did like 40mil. Video games have the most success overall. Mario, Sonic, Final fantasy, Pokemon... All very successful. But like most video games, have struggled with the transition to film. Personally I think Mario will do well. Will it finally break the video game film trend? I hope so. But even a film based on Pokemon wasn't a barn burner. And I figured that would have killed it.
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Sonic and Sonic 2 did really well. Both did better than every Disney/Pixar animated movie released in the last few years.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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RobWDW1971 said:
As expected with the lowest CinemaScore in the history of Disney animation, the forecast for Strange World's second weekend looks bleak. This is why studios focus so strongly on the exit scores as they historically are a strong predictor of whether a film will have sustained legs or quickly disappear.

Even with no new family films entering the marketplace, Box Office Pro has a weekend on 4,000+ screens of only $5.9M or a drop of 50%+ off of its historically poor opening. Note that Box Office Pro has overestimated this film's performance at every stage to date as expectations for this film have no floor.

www.boxofficepro.com

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This year's Thanksgiving slump will give way to an early December lull, but Violent Night hopes to provide a small spark of positivity for theaters.
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OMG! Violent Night looks fantastic!! It's like Die Hard with Santa. Now that I would go see.
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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Phroobar said:
Sonic and Sonic 2 did really well. Both did better than every Disney/Pixar animated movie released in the last few years.
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They did do well, I liked them a lot. But they still only did 148 and 190mil domestic respectively. Better than lightyear and strange world for sure. But not setting the states on fire. And again, that's not a bad thing. That's the main ish stream stuff, and its still not blockbuster status.
 

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