BuddyThomas
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Uh....it wasn't even nominated for a Golden Globe, which should make y'all real happy, and Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio won the Best Animated Motion Picture trophy. I expect the same to happen at the Oscars.
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'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film
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erasure fan1
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100% agreed Klaus was by far a better movie.
RobWDW1971
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The global disparity between Disney and Universal's strategies for family animated films continues to grow.
Puss In Boots:TLW actually increased over previous week (the only holdover film to do that, which was not expanding theater count). The film increased 6% over prior week, expected to generate $19M over the four day and is currently at about $112M domestic. Even more impressive is that the film has been available to buy/rent in the home on premium VOD since January 6th, just sixteen days after release.
The story is even more significant internationally where PIBTLW has already grossed $141M+. To put a finer point on it, Strange World and Lightyear combined grossed $142M in their entire international runs.
Total global box office for Strange World and Lightyear combined was about $299M. PIBTLW is already at $250M and still has legs due to positive word of mouth globally.
A reported $90M Universal family friendly, entertaining film will end up grossing more globally than Disney's combined reported $380M recent tentpole animated films.
After burning through hundreds of millions of dollars in shareholder cash, Disney can sleep comfortably knowing they made "important" films (according to their DEI team). Meanwhile, Universal continues to build a brand trusted by parents and entertaining families all around the world.
Puss In Boots:TLW actually increased over previous week (the only holdover film to do that, which was not expanding theater count). The film increased 6% over prior week, expected to generate $19M over the four day and is currently at about $112M domestic. Even more impressive is that the film has been available to buy/rent in the home on premium VOD since January 6th, just sixteen days after release.
The story is even more significant internationally where PIBTLW has already grossed $141M+. To put a finer point on it, Strange World and Lightyear combined grossed $142M in their entire international runs.
Total global box office for Strange World and Lightyear combined was about $299M. PIBTLW is already at $250M and still has legs due to positive word of mouth globally.
A reported $90M Universal family friendly, entertaining film will end up grossing more globally than Disney's combined reported $380M recent tentpole animated films.
After burning through hundreds of millions of dollars in shareholder cash, Disney can sleep comfortably knowing they made "important" films (according to their DEI team). Meanwhile, Universal continues to build a brand trusted by parents and entertaining families all around the world.
LittleBuford
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I take it you still haven’t watched it?
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_caleb
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I think it's sad how many seem to view Disney's films and theme parks as mere commodities and cannot seem to understand or appreciate the artistic or social value of these things.
It's like those people who measure their time in the parks strictly in terms of the number of rides ridden.
We don't all determine the value of a thing in strictly economic terms when choosing what to spend our own time/money on.
It's like those people who measure their time in the parks strictly in terms of the number of rides ridden.
We don't all determine the value of a thing in strictly economic terms when choosing what to spend our own time/money on.
Figgy1
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Did you enjoy it or not?
BuddyThomas
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He hasn’t seen it. He keeps coming back to this thread for one reason and one reason only, and it’s not to discuss the quality of the film.
TP2000
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The Numbers are now out for this latest holiday weekend. Strange World actually increased it's total theater count for this holiday weekend up to 610 theaters, but it didn't help box office much at all. Here's where Strange World stands globally in comparison to Puss In Boots, which had a phenomenal weekend for a movie that's already a month old now.
This really shows that Strange World was an even bigger flop globally than it was here at home. Foreign audiences really, really disliked Strange World compared to Puss In Boots. By almost 5 to 1 at this point.
What will Disney's film strategy be going forward, especially for those overseas markets that noticeably avoided Strange World?
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This really shows that Strange World was an even bigger flop globally than it was here at home. Foreign audiences really, really disliked Strange World compared to Puss In Boots. By almost 5 to 1 at this point.
What will Disney's film strategy be going forward, especially for those overseas markets that noticeably avoided Strange World?
The Numbers - Daily Box Office Chart for Thursday November 21, 2024
Daily Domestic Box Office Chart for Thursday November 21, 2024
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Chi84
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Maybe they’ll do better than worrying about the overseas markets. Things change over time. It never hurts to be in front of things rather than behind.The Numbers are now out for this latest holiday weekend. Strange World actually increased it's total theater count for this holiday weekend up to 610 theaters, but it didn't help box office much at all. Here's where Strange World stands globally in comparison to Puss In Boots, which had a phenomenal weekend for a movie that's already a month old now.
This really shows that Strange World was an even bigger flop globally than it was here at home. Foreign audiences really, really disliked Strange World compared to Puss In Boots. By almost 5 to 1 at this point.
What will Disney's film strategy be going forward, especially for those overseas markets that noticeably avoided Strange World?
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The Numbers - Daily Box Office Chart for Thursday November 21, 2024
Daily Domestic Box Office Chart for Thursday November 21, 2024
TP2000
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You aren't the first one to say that, so don't mean to pick on you personally, but...
Burbank is trying to sell movie tickets and movie merchandise at Target in 2023. It's not trying to sell movie tickets and merchandise in 2040 right now. They'll worry about ticket sales and merchandise sales for 2040 in... wait for it... 2040. (Or maybe 2039 for the smartest cubicles.)
Any movie studio paying bills and making payroll today needs to sell tickets today, not create a future cult classic that will be popular in college dorms 20 years from now to pull in a tiny a fraction of today's profits.
BuddyThomas
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Look! You said Burbank again!!!!! Hurray!!!!!!
Chi84
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Ok. But Disney has always been a progressive company and it’s doing just fine. Minor hits don’t matter. You think all this is a big surprise to them?
TP2000
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I'm fairly confident they didn't get a production budget approved for $140 Million to only make make back $67 Million at the box office.
Chi84
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Playing the long game. The past dies off.I'm fairly confident they didn't get a production budget approved for $140 Million to only make make back $67 Million at the box office.
TP2000
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How do you meet payroll in the meantime while you wait for your failed 2022 film to become a cult classic in dorm rooms circa 2038?
_caleb
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No, Disney is changing its business and repositioning itself for the future. They’re actually NOT trying to sell movie tickets in 2023, they’re trying to pivot to streaming and rely less on box office. They’ve sad this for years, and they’re still in the middle of executing their plan.
Internationally, Disney’s strategy moving forward is to start charging (or serving commercials to) all the HotStar/Hulu subscribers who aren’t paying much at all just yet.
The plan, I’m sure you remember, was to spend tons of money to bulk up and diversify their content so that their streaming platforms had enough to attract and keep subscribers, establishing market share. And it’s working:I'm fairly confident they didn't get a production budget approved for $140 Million to only make make back $67 Million at the box office.
Obviously Disney is currently in the most vulnerable phase of the plan: lots invested, lots to lose, uncertain economy, impatient investors, and leadership changes, but you can’t say the plan isn’t working. Well, you can, but you’d be wrong.
What remains to be seen is whether or not they can reach profitability (they are on track to do just that, and sooner than planned) and ultimately, if the pivot to streaming was the right decision to future proof the business.
Theme parks and licensing.
Chi84
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Gee, maybe they never thought of that. But I doubt it.
Disney Irish
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Wait, wait, wait, so because of Strange World, and Lightyear because I know you'll throw that in there, didn't make back their budgets Disney can no longer meet payroll? That is what you're claiming? You're serious with this post?!?
I know you're trying to make a point in your normal hyperbolic way, but lets be real here. Disney is not in any risk of not being able to meet payroll as if they're insolvent. They can easily pay their employees as they have all the other films and other divisions that made money this year, plus $11.615B cash in reserve as of the last quarter, as well as the ability to borrow in order to fund the company if needed. So a couple films not making their budgets back isn't going to break the company, which if you know the history of the company is actually very common, and certainly isn't going to result in not meeting payroll.
So you can make all sorts of other claims here, but this one is very far from the reality and should never be in question.
Heppenheimer
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The issue isn't payroll, but if Strange World was financed like most films from major Hollywood studios, the bondholders who need to be paid when those corporate bonds mature. Disney does not want their bond rating downgraded, because this makes future films more expensive to finance, so because that money isn't coming from Strange World profits, it has to be pulled from elsewhere in the company. Like you said, probably from their cash reserves, but this just means now that some other projects gets their budgets cut or cancelled outright.
Disney Irish
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Except that wasn't the insinuation being made. It was that the failure of the last two movies would result Disney failing to make payroll, which is very far from being true.
We all know that budget cuts happen when movies don't make back their budgets, but the same goes for any Studio not just Disney.