Storyliving by Disney - a Disney-branded, master-planned home community

[Disney Irish]

I get that essentially this is the community reservoir, but all I see right now is: what a freaking waste of water. In the desert. In California. In wildifire season.

Unfortunately you can say the same about any water feature in the whole LA Basin. For that matter if you want to get real nit-picky, you could say the same about much of the west coast region, including places like Las Vegas that draws water from the Colorado river which has been drying up for decades. Instead of making a desert green for a bunch of gamblers they should use more of that water for the entire LA Basin.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Who really knows how much Disney is actually involved with these communities.

Maybe Disney Imagineers “consulted” with the actual owners/developers but I wager Disney is just collecting license fees.

I HOPE Disney is NOT consulting on how to install in ground lighting!!!!!

 

[chadwpalm]

The amount of water needed to keep that little lake full is a drop in the bucket compared to keeping the fairways of 124 golf courses in the area green.

 

[AJFireman]

Who really knows how much Disney is actually involved with these communities.

Maybe Disney Imagineers “consulted” with the actual owners/developers but I wager Disney is just collecting license fees.

I HOPE Disney is NOT consulting on how to install in ground lighting!!!!!

I did a deep dive when this was announced but never posted what I found but if i remember correctly this community at least for the developer was approved prior to COVID not sure if that is what stopped the build then. What I feel is it was halted because of that or at least delayed then it came back to life with the Disney brand in 2022.. Here is the developer website regarding Section 31

Section 31 - MSA Consulting, Inc.

Section 31 is a 618-acre undeveloped property in the heart of the Coachella Valley within the City of Rancho Mirage, California. Property owner, EC Rancho Mirage Holdings, Limited Partnership has partnered with master developer DMB Development LLC to develop Section 31. MSA prepared the Specific...

www.msaconsultinginc.com

Also found this 2018 article when they obtained the property.

https://www.builderonline.com/land/local-markets/rancho-mirage-holdings-partners-with-dmb-development-on-coachella-valley-mp_o

 

[TP2000]

The amount of water needed to keep that little lake full is a drop in the bucket compared to keeping the fairways of 124 golf courses in the area green.

The entire Coachella Valley should not exist as a home for humans. At its basic and non-technological state, t's just not hospitable for our species, nor is it normal.

Of course, with the invention and mass adoption 75 years ago of air conditioning and motorcars and the California State Water Project (Thanks, Governor Brown!), all of the Coachella Valley may now be populated by a half million or so humans. And growing.

It's not just the latest Disney development. The entire valley for 50 miles is awash in faux lakes and decadent greenery, all populated by an older and affluent demographic who really shouldn't be there except for modern inventions.

Disney didn't start this, they're just finally getting in on the market 60 years after it started....

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Toured the Coachella Valley Water District....... 8ish years ago. They are doing quite well and are an example for many water districts out in the world. The area actually runs on a surplus and sells water to other regions. The aquifer out there is doing quite well.

The upper desert though (Victorville, Barstow, etc.), they're doomed. They aint got no water nor the infrastructure needed for growth, sustainability.

 

[chadwpalm]

Toured the Coachella Valley Water District....... 8ish years ago. They are doing quite well and are an example for many water districts out in the world. The area actually runs on a surplus and sells water to other regions. The aquifer out there is doing quite well.

Yup. Between their impressive infrastructure of replenishing the aquifer and the 4000 wind turbines just west of them supplying them energy, the valley is neither hurting for water or power....which seems counterintuitive given it's a desert, but it works.

The entire Coachella Valley should not exist as a home for humans. At its basic and non-technological state, t's just not hospitable for our species, nor is it normal.

My older brother moved down there (Indio) in 1993, got married and has a family, and still lives there to this day. He enticed me in 1998 to move down there and I stayed for 6 years and that was all I could take. While you do acclimate to the heat, it just wasn't my gig, so I moved back up to the Bay Area.

 

[Phroobar]

Toured the Coachella Valley Water District....... 8ish years ago. They are doing quite well and are an example for many water districts out in the world. The area actually runs on a surplus and sells water to other regions. The aquifer out there is doing quite well.

The upper desert though (Victorville, Barstow, etc.), they're doomed. They aint got no water nor the infrastructure needed for growth, sustainability.

The poor are always doomed by the rich.

 

[truecoat]

The poor are always doomed by the rich.

It's becoming more and more evident these days.

 

[Disstevefan1]

It's becoming more and more evident these days.

I leave the rich alone. Needless to say the rich leaves me alone.

 

[Disney Irish]

I leave the rich alone. Needless to say the rich leaves me alone.

You are affected more by the rich than you realize.

 

[Phroobar]

Eat the rich

 

[DLR92]

The entire Coachella Valley should not exist as a home for humans. At its basic and non-technological state, t's just not hospitable for our species, nor is it normal.

Of course, with the invention and mass adoption 75 years ago of air conditioning and motorcars and the California State Water Project (Thanks, Governor Brown!), all of the Coachella Valley may now be populated by a half million or so humans. And growing.

It's not just the latest Disney development. The entire valley for 50 miles is awash in faux lakes and decadent greenery, all populated by an older and affluent demographic who really shouldn't be there except for modern inventions.

Disney didn't start this, they're just finally getting in on the market 60 years after it started....

We can say the same with Los Angeles receiving water from Owen’s Valley. The communities of Antelope Valley, actually much of Southern California.

 

[truecoat]

You are affected more by the rich than you realize.

Yep, the money funnel goes to the top, not the bottom.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yep, the money funnel goes to the top, not the bottom.

More like a vacuum than a funnel, but yep.

 

[Consumer]

You are affected more by the rich than you realize.

Yeah, they pay me my salary so I can put food on the table. God bless the rich.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yeah, they pay me my salary so I can put food on the table. God bless the rich.

Sure, because its not like you couldn't be paid your salary any other way.

 

[Agent H]

Eat the rich

but then Scrooge mcduck couldn’t save the world

 

[TP2000]

We can say the same with Los Angeles receiving water from Owen’s Valley. The communities of Antelope Valley, actually much of Southern California.

Well, true, when using a modern interpretation of what it takes for humans to survive.

I'm not an expert on the native tribes of the Southwest (more into the Pacific Northwest Indian cultures), but I do know that for a few thousand years there were humans living in small family tribes in the LA basin and along the California coast. Living in what is now Santa Monica was far more hospitable to the ancient people in America who were at least 1,000 years behind Europeans in technological advancement than it would have been to live in what is now Rancho Mirage.

Someone more up to speed on Indian culture could tell us if there were humans living in what is now Palm Springs or Rancho Mirage 500 years ago, in an area that routinely goes to 110 only gets a couple of inches of water per year.

 

[Phroobar]

but then Scrooge mcduck couldn’t save the world

That's Darkwing Duck's job.