stormalong bay policy

Phonedave

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yes... the pool is only for the beach and yacht club guests.



He means "Guests of guests"


In other words, he is staying there, and someone who is offsite comes to visit. Can they go to the pool as well.

The offical answer is no. You are supposed to have a KTTW card for each person using the pool.

-dave
 
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Kamikaze

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He means "Guests of guests"


In other words, he is staying there, and someone who is offsite comes to visit. Can they go to the pool as well.

The offical answer is no. You are supposed to have a KTTW card for each person using the pool.

-dave

And at Stormalong Bay, they actually do check.

Now, could someone who IS staying there let a friend use their card instead of them? Sure. But if there are 4 people in the room, only 4 are going in the pool.
 
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MichWolv

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And at Stormalong Bay, they actually do check.

Now, could someone who IS staying there let a friend use their card instead of them? Sure. But if there are 4 people in the room, only 4 are going in the pool.

Unless 4 go to the pool, 1 leaves with 3 cards, grabs two friends, and they all go back in. Or if a guest tells the front desk they "lost" their KTTW world card and gets a new one, allowing the old one to be handed to somebody else.

Obviously, it's a rule that is easy to get around in lots of ways. But to answer the OPs question, the rule is, those staying at the Yacht and Beach Club only.
 
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Spike-in-Berlin

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And at Stormalong Bay, they actually do check.

Now, could someone who IS staying there let a friend use their card instead of them? Sure. But if there are 4 people in the room, only 4 are going in the pool.

I hope so. At both Wilderness Lodge and Polynesian I had the impression that they do not check the pool area at any time. And after reading that there are quite a lot of "pool hoppers", some even off-property, I feel there is definitely a policy necessary to prevent non-resort guests from using amenities I pay a lot of money for. Especially if you take into consideration, that the Disney resorts, even the deluxe ones, have pools that are actually too small compared to the number of accomodated guests.
 
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starchasers

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The locals are always at Fort Wilderness pools when ever we stay there. You can usually hear them brag about how easy it is to come for the day and use the pool then leave and nothing is ever done about it. You are right we do pay a lot of money to stay at Disney and Disney could care less as long as they get the check they are happy, but a lot of guests are not. Looks like we need to do some major complaining while we are there maybe it will help.:brick::brick:
 
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MichWolv

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I hope so. At both Wilderness Lodge and Polynesian I had the impression that they do not check the pool area at any time. And after reading that there are quite a lot of "pool hoppers", some even off-property, I feel there is definitely a policy necessary to prevent non-resort guests from using amenities I pay a lot of money for. Especially if you take into consideration, that the Disney resorts, even the deluxe ones, have pools that are actually too small compared to the number of accomodated guests.

There is a policy. We all know what it is. Enforcement levels vary, but the policy does not. As for the size of the pools...I have never been at a WDW pool that felt annoyingly crowded, other than Typhoon Lagoon on a hot summer day, that is.

The locals are always at Fort Wilderness pools when ever we stay there. You can usually hear them brag about how easy it is to come for the day and use the pool then leave and nothing is ever done about it. You are right we do pay a lot of money to stay at Disney and Disney could care less as long as they get the check they are happy, but a lot of guests are not. Looks like we need to do some major complaining while we are there maybe it will help.:brick::brick:

Disney cares very much about whether guests are happy. But the grass is always greener on the other side.

I can tell you that one of the things guests at many fancy resorts around the world complain about is being forced to carry and pull out their stupid room key multiple times a day all over property because of security checks. I've seen arguments at places like the Bellagio in Vegas and Atlantis in the Bahamas that made me afraid for the safety of the hapless worker just doing his/her job asking to see room keys.

Like all other resort operators, Disney needs to balance the annoyance of making guests carry the key everywhere with the possibility that reduced key checks could allow policy violations.
 
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captainkidd

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Disney's pool security sucks. So many people pool hop and they do nothing about it. Such a simple solution - Upon check-in, everyone in the party is given a color coded rubber bracelet with the dates of their stay on it and the name of their resort. To get into the pool, you need to be wearing it.

Is their an expense to this for Disney? Sure. But it's minimal and would solve the problem.
 
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chwilson88

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Thanks all. That's what I thought. I plan on obeying the rules, as I agree we pay an inordinate amount of money to stay at deluxe resorts, but I simply wanted to verify.
 
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Pioneer Hall

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Disney's pool security sucks. So many people pool hop and they do nothing about it. Such a simple solution - Upon check-in, everyone in the party is given a color coded rubber bracelet with the dates of their stay on it and the name of their resort. To get into the pool, you need to be wearing it.

Is their an expense to this for Disney? Sure. But it's minimal and would solve the problem.

This is sort of what happens at the Yacht and Beach club. You need to show your key to get a wristband and towels from one of the lifeguards. The bracelet color changes everyday so they know that you were verified that day.
 
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Phonedave

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This is sort of what happens at the Yacht and Beach club. You need to show your key to get a wristband and towels from one of the lifeguards. The bracelet color changes everyday so they know that you were verified that day.

Right, but as was said, there are ways (pretty simple ways) to defeat that.

Part of the difficulty is that Stormalong Bay is a open area. Even if I am not a hotel guest, I can still walk through the area to get to Beaches and Cream, or to the Clambake. Maybe for some reason I want to eat at the outside pool bar (I forget the name of it). That is all OK to do even if you are not a guest.

If the pool area was in a fenced in area, with one gate, where a CM took your room card as you entered or somehow verified that you were not lending a card to another person, then it would work. But thats a little to scrity laden for my tastes.

-dave
 
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Phonedave

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I have never been at a WDW pool that felt annoyingly crowded, other than Typhoon Lagoon on a hot summer day, that is.



I have.

Only 2 or 3 times, but I have.

The last one I recall was the Uzima pool at AKL at around 2:00 PM on a blazing hot day. Wall to wall people.

-dave
 
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PhilharMagician

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Disney's pool security sucks. So many people pool hop and they do nothing about it. Such a simple solution - Upon check-in, everyone in the party is given a color coded rubber bracelet with the dates of their stay on it and the name of their resort. To get into the pool, you need to be wearing it.

Is their an expense to this for Disney? Sure. But it's minimal and would solve the problem.

Is this something new? Last time we stayed at BCV in 2008 you had to show your room card (KttW card) to the person handing out the towels and they would give you a bracelet that was good for that day only. If you went to the pool the next day, you would have to show your card again to get a bracelet for that day. The bracelets were basically the same temporary type used for EMH Evenings of holiday parties. You had to show your room key for each and every person in your party to get a bracelet. I have seen a quite a few times where people in the pool were asked to exit because of no bracelet.

If they hand out a bracelet a check-in that is good for the entire stay, that would be much easier. They would have to be a pliable rubber so that they could be removed and replaced.
 
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Phonedave

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Is this something new? Last time we stayed at BCV in 2008 you had to show your room card (KttW card) to the person handing out the towels and they would give you a bracelet that was good for that day only. If you went to the pool the next day, you would have to show your card again to get a bracelet for that day. The bracelets were basically the same temporary type used for EMH Evenings of holiday parties. You had to show your room key for each and every person in your party to get a bracelet. I have seen a quite a few times where people in the pool were asked to exit because of no bracelet.

If they hand out a bracelet a check-in that is good for the entire stay, that would be much easier. They would have to be a pliable rubber so that they could be removed and replaced.

That is still to easy for people to get around.

Check in, get your band, put it in your room.

Go to the front desk "Oh man, I am so stupid, I lost my band"

Get new band

Give one to your friend who is not staying there, keep one for yourself.

Security circumvented.

Unless they are checking photo ID's each time you enter to pool area (Which of course is not going to happen) you will always be able to get an unauthorized person in by stating you lost your band / braclet / tag / pass / whatever.

Either photo ID's, or they charge for lost tags. While that is how it works at the Jersey Shore, I don't think it is going to fly at WDW.

-dave
 
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R W B

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I've thought about this too, how do they prevent non resort guest from using that resorts pool since every Disney resort is pretty much open to anyone. Last trip my G/F and I checked out most resorts pools just to see what they looked like and we were discussing this. I didnt realize they do checks at some of them.
 
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PhilharMagician

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I've thought about this too, how do they prevent non resort guest from using that resorts pool since every Disney resort is pretty much open to anyone. Last trip my G/F and I checked out most resorts pools just to see what they looked like and we were discussing this. I didnt realize they do checks at some of them.

The only pool that I know that you cannot even walk around is at BLT. That pool is gated and you need to have a active BLT room card to open the gates to enter the pool area.

All other pools you are free to walk through and look around, but not to swim. Only DVC members are allowed to pool hop and there are a few that are off limits to them like the pools at AKL, YC/BC and BLT.
 
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ddbowdoin

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the concept of pool hopping makes no sense to me... you're at WDW, enjoy it. It's a hole with water in it, many of us even have them at home! I don't have Main Street USA, Pirates, SM, Splash... near me, so that is my main goal when I am at the world.
 
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PhilharMagician

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the concept of pool hopping makes no sense to me... you're at WDW, enjoy it. It's a hole with water in it, many of us even have them at home! I don't have Main Street USA, Pirates, SM, Splash... near me, so that is my main goal when I am at the world.

I'm with you on this. I do enjoy an occasional evening swim while at WDW, but have no intent to go pool hopping. It is just a perk to help draw people into DVC. I honestly do not think many people really end up using this perk and pool hop. The only pool that would really be worthy in my book is Stormalong Bay since it really is a mini water park and even then I would still find it tough to travel to use that pool unless I am staying at the resort.
 
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