State soliciting bids for I-Drive rail; closes at end of month; may go to Disney

PeterAlt

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State solicits bids for airport-to-convention monorail system, with future phases going to Lake Nona’s Medical City and the Disney area, closes at end of month

Friday, March 28, 2014, 8:30am EDT

Rail rumble: 2nd firm vying for airport-to-I-Drive train route
Anjali Fluker

Orlando Business Journal

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Rendering of the proposed Maglev rail, a magnetic-levitation train system

Central Florida’s mass-transit fans are gearing up for the May 1 launch of SunRail, but others — including some out-of-town companies — are looking to provide the next big rail link.

Local officials have been talking about the importance of future commuter rail spines connecting SunRail to Orlando International Airport and Medical City. But traffic woes on International Drive during last weekend’s MegaCon event at the Orange County Convention Center may have made that side of town a priority for the next rail system.

Georgia firm American Maglev Technology Inc. has proposed developing a privately funded $315 million airport-to-convention center magnetic-levitation train system, with future phases going to Lake Nona’s Medical City and the Disney area.

But American Maglev may have some competition, as the U.S. division of a Spanish transportation infrastructure firm is looking to put its name in the hat for that project.

The Florida Department of Transportation in February pushed a deadline into April to allow companies more time to submit proposals to lease right of ways along that airport-to-convention center route. That route would be used to develop and operate a fixed-guide transportation system, which could be a rail, trolley, monorail, cable car or other automated transportation system.

The transportation department delayed the deadline to April 15 after receiving a letter from Timothy Young, vice president of OHL Infrastructure Inc. in Rye, N.Y. OHL, a division of the Spanish company Obrascon Huarte Lain SA, requested for a 60-day delay to allow for the firm to prepare a more solid proposal given the “complexity of the transaction,” Young said in the letter.

Attempts to reach Young and OHL were unsuccessful.
 

PeterAlt

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My guess is that the Maglev is probably a long shot. Still, the article was interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Well, the state is being realistic by having companies bid on it. There may be other companies competing for it that we don't know about yet. In any case, one will be chosen at the end of the month. May the best bid win!
 

PeterAlt

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Isn't it funny how just a couple of years ago, certain people here fought me tooth and nail about alleged monorail expansion plans being true? Now we find out that not only were they real, but there was a concerted effort and a comprehensive plan for SunRail, an I-Drive APM, and a state-financed Disney monorail that extended all the way out to Cape Canaveral to all tie into Florida High Speed Rail Phase 1B.

The defunding of the project was all political. Sad, indeed.
 

unkadug

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Isn't it funny how just a couple of years ago, certain people here fought me tooth and nail about alleged monorail expansion plans being true? Now we find out that not only were they real, but there was a concerted effort and a comprehensive plan for SunRail, an I-Drive APM, and a state-financed Disney monorail that extended all the way out to Cape Canaveral to all tie into Florida High Speed Rail Phase 1B.

The defunding of the project was all political. Sad, indeed.
Mpnorail building in the Orlando area is certainly a far cry from monorail expansion at WDW.
 

PeterAlt

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Mpnorail building in the Orlando area is certainly a far cry from monorail expansion at WDW.
They are two separate things. The article has no connection to Disney's system but a future phase will go to the Disney area. Separately, the state wanted to extend Disney's monorail as part of FHSR Phase 1B.
 

unkadug

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They are two separate things. The article has no connection to Disney's system but a future phase will go to the Disney area. Separately, the state wanted to extend Disney's monorail as part of FHSR Phase 1B.
It will never happen until WDW becomes state owned and operated.
 

FerretAfros

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How long is the airport-convention center corridor? $315Million seems like a very low price, considering that most urban rail projects (light rail, Metro, etc) seem to be costing around $100M per mile these days. If they can actually do it for that price, that's great, but I have a hunch that bid will get thrown out because it's a complete lowball and would end up costing much more than that in reality
 

ryguy

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How long is the airport-convention center corridor? $315Million seems like a very low price, considering that most urban rail projects (light rail, Metro, etc) seem to be costing around $100M per mile these days. If they can actually do it for that price, that's great, but I have a hunch that bid will get thrown out because it's a complete lowball and would end up costing much more than that in reality
I don't think its more than 15 miles.
 

TimeTrip

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How long is the airport-convention center corridor? $315Million seems like a very low price, considering that most urban rail projects (light rail, Metro, etc) seem to be costing around $100M per mile these days. If they can actually do it for that price, that's great, but I have a hunch that bid will get thrown out because it's a complete lowball and would end up costing much more than that in reality
Especially since they're proposing maglev. Sounds like a setup to me.
 

FerretAfros

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I don't think its more than 15 miles.
So that would mean it should be somewhere in the $1.5billion ballpark, no? If they can actually build a reliable system for 1/5 of the cost of conventional systems, why haven't other municipalities jumped on the maglev bandwagon? Something's fishy here...
 

PeterAlt

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Especially since they're proposing maglev. Sounds like a setup to me.
Well, they are getting funding from a private source, not the state. That same funding source is laying out the capital to build managed toll lanes on I-95 for the state in Dade and Broward counties. That project is well under way.

Also, in my city, they converted a regular city road into an expressway running the same distance between I-Drive and OIA for $350 million. The idea is that the track for the maglev won't require the same supports as an elevated metro system because the trains have no weight since they will be floating on magnetic fields.
 

bhg469

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Well, they are getting funding from a private source, not the state. That same funding source is laying out the capital to build managed toll lanes on I-95 for the state in Dade and Broward counties. That project is well under way.

Also, in my city, they converted a regular city road into an expressway running the same distance between I-Drive and OIA for $350 million. The idea is that the track for the maglev won't require the same supports as an elevated metro system because the trains have no weight since they will be floating on magnetic fields.
The track still needs to be able to support a fully loaded train bud, failure of the system would mean the train would come to rest on the track.
 

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