ToTBellHop
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It makes complete sense to have both given the popularity of the franchise and the state that the park will be in by next May. Special events and additional M&Gs will help float the park.
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Star Wars weekends going away?
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That Guy
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Season of the force is, at least to my knowledge, not going to feature autographs and presentations from actors from the Star Wars movies and TV shows. That aspect alone packs crowds into HS for Star Wars Weekends. Star Tours, Rockin', ToT, watching Frank Oz speak, getting an autograph from Ashley Ekstein capped off by Fantasmic is still a pretty awesome day no matter what is closed. The fireworks and character meet and greets are great, but Star Wars Weekends is a lot more than just what they seem to be offering in Season of the Force.
JohnD
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But they have a new seasonal event in a period where there wasn't one. It ends just before the Easter season which its own draw. Then F&G Festival begins. As it winds down, in previous years, SWW begins. As SWW ends, then the busy summer season arrives. Then fall/holiday, with F&W Festival, MNSSHP, MVMCP, Candlelight Processional, Christmas, New Year. Then the cycle starts over.
All this to say that WDW has something going on all year. I can't imagine their ending SWW because there would be no draw mid-May to mid-June.
AEfx
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That's not really true. Nor is pretty much everything else posted about this in the last page of this thread about the OT (not just picking on you, LOL - there is a lot of misinformation out there so it's no wonder folks are confused).
1) The O-Neg (which actually ran through the camera) was spliced to make the SE's, this is true. The sad, infuriating part is that the O-Neg (which when they cracked open the cans had deteriorated to such a degree they were not sure it could even be saved) was completely and thoroughly chemically restored to pristine condition before this happened.
2) He did not "have (it) destroyed" per se, but since digital technology wasn't very far along in the mid-90's to actually scan the entire film to work from, when he was doing this (much the problem with the SE's in general, the tech just wasn't good enough for what he was attempting), he chose to let them be cut up and the SE's were physically assembled from them. One frame on each side of each cut that was made has been lost due to how one must physically cut film.
3) In spite of the state of the O-Neg, with the exception of those missing frames, the cut portions were supposedly saved, meaning it would simply need to be spliced back together again.
4) Even without the O-Neg, Lucasfilm has the original IP's (interpositives) made from it, as well as several existing Technicolor prints and other sources, being easily available. This includes the print that the Library of Congress holds - which they famously would not allow Lucas to remove and replace with the bastardized versions. You can make an appointment at the LoC to view the print yourself, so certainly it could be accessed by Lucasfilm if it really was needed as a last ditch.
5) Lucas really doesn't give a crap anymore. He said as far back as 2010/2011 during the Blu-ray release that it could be done, it just would cost a few million dollars and he wasn't personally interested in doing it. He long ago gave up the rhetoric and hypocritical stances he previously held regarding it. It just wasn't going to be done on his dime.
All that said, there are pretty solid rumors that restoring the OT negatives was literally the first thing that Disney did upon purchasing Lucasfilm back in 2012, while they were figuring out what to do about the future films, using whatever option was best/available, and that it's been done for some time now. It's just a matter of when and how they decide to release them. I think a lot of us expected it to happen before TFA, but they may be saving them for a future box set - who knows.
I'm guessing there is also some discussion over how best to present them - because some work the SE's did (on matte lines, etc., particularly in space) really need to be done for it to look good in HD. Sure, when projected on a big screen the matte lines are more diffused and less apparent, but squeezing HD resolution into the size of a flat-screen TV highlights them tremendously. It's a fine line they will be walking when doing the actual transfer.
So not only is it possible, it's pretty likely already been done - it's just a matter of when Disney/Lucasfilm decides to drop them and how.
DisneyRoy
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Confirmed by a solid insider over in the Star Wars land thread that SWW is indeed going away.
AEfx
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I'm not sure why anyone finds that odd whatsoever. It really wouldn't make sense to continue them once Star Wars Land is open, this should have already been expected. Every weekend is going to be Star Wars Weekends. They plan on pushing that kind of merchandise 365 days a year.
That doesn't mean they won't still be doing "temporary" celebrations/etc. as always that may be Star Wars themed, but it makes no sense to focus on a few weekends a year once the park has a major full-time Star Wars presence. It also basically was like as series of mini-conventions, and between D23 and Celebration, they have that segment covered.
Animaniac93-98
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1080p resolution is still lower quality than 35mm film, let alone 70mm which some Star Wars prints were projected in. The idea that your TV has higher "resolution" than film is bogus. Resolution has nothing to do with it, but instead audience expectations that a movie from the 70s should somehow look like it was shot with digital cameras and have modern computer effects quality and matte work.
If and when the original Star Wars movies come to Blu-ray, I want them to look like they were shot on film and done with whatever techniques were used to create the final product. I realize that probably won't happen, but I can dream.
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AEfx
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I said absolutely nothing about a TV having higher resolution than film, that would be absurd as film doesn't have resolution.
However, your television screen has an exponentially smaller viewing area than 35mm film is typically projected at. The matte lines and such when projected over the larger area of the screen diffuse visually - they are spread out enough that the "line" is acceptably hidden visually even though it's actually larger.
What happens when you squeeze down the picture to the size of televisions, even at "inferior" HD "resolution" is that the matte lines become solid black and look like paper cut outs. That's why they had to do so much additional work on the Blu-rays. If you compare the Blu-rays to the HDTV prints that had previously been shown on cable, you will see this really clearly. It wasn't a problem in SD because the quality of the medium covered up for it, but once you get to HD resolution, it sticks out like a sore Bantha.
Well, that's exactly what digitally repairing those matte lines would do - because seeing them look like black Sharpie lines around everything is what would instantly make it look like video. If done properly, you wouldn't even know it was done.
As to what they end up doing, who knows...but I can tell you that if no work was done, you would be disappointed in what you got.
Animaniac93-98
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Sorry, the way you said "squeezing HD resolution into the size of a flat-screen TV" made it sound like you were referring to them as seperate things.
You mean like this scene from Logan's Run?
AEfx
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Got ya.
I could have been more clear - "squeezing" was referring to the higher resolution of HD vs. SD on smaller screens. Precisely, LOL. I have some digital recordings of the pre-Blu-ray HD versions that showed on cable and the matte lines (particularly in space) looked just like that. Like, the Lambda Shuttle landing on the Death Star literally looked like a paper cut out (ROTJ in general was the worst actually because of the massive amount of matte work done).
I agree, one definitely wants as little as possible to be done to any possible transfer of the OT - but some work is necessary on any film like this, just because of the different viewing formats.
But when? That was my main reason for starting this thread. I certainly wasn't expecting them to continue once Star Wars land opens, but the article I read made it seem like they would be stopping them immediately. Maybe I just read too much into the article.
tirian
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That's just clickbait. SWW is expected to last at least another year; the merch has already been created.
Thank you! That is exactly what I was wanting to know, as we are going next June and I really wanted my kids (and husband!) to get to experience it.
DisneyRoy
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The post in the other thread said 2016 or 2017. So another year or two.
PhotoDave219
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I trust Martin and he's always been spot on. Alas, there's conflicting info coming from other departments.
So at this point, I'm gonna consider this to be a fluctuating situation until something official comes out.
My gut says it's going to stay just because of the numbers ($$$$$ not attendance numbers) and this company is driven by numbers.
So at this point, I'm gonna consider this to be a fluctuating situation until something official comes out.
My gut says it's going to stay just because of the numbers ($$$$$ not attendance numbers) and this company is driven by numbers.
JohnD
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Not in 2016 anyway. Yes, this insider confirmed the same to me. All I can say is there is still nothing official.