Star Wars weekends going away?

FigmentJedi

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I would agree. Lucas did not respect what he did and only looked ahead. He treated his original trilogy like artwork posted on the refrigerator. He grew up and tweaked them until they were nearly unrecognizable. When he made the prequels he took control of things that he used hire the best and the brightest for in the past. The writing and direction suffered. Lucas is a hell of a mind and producer, but in terms of execution, he always did better working with others. It's a good thing he's not a musician/conductor or he would have screwed up the soundtrack too.

Disney realizes that it has gold here. I just don't want to see them over-saturate it.
Lucas wanted to get the band back together on the Prequels, including Kasdan and Kershner, or get his friends Spielberg, Zemeckis, and Columbus aboard, but everyone was either busy with their own projects or just told George he should be the one to do it himself. He found himself in a "If I don't get this done myself now, it's probably not gonna get done" position and we ended up with the clunky written movies we got.

Clone Wars was the success it was because it was George's ideas filtered through a group of talented people. And George's mentorship on Filoni and the rest ensure that Star Wars is in good hands.

And there's plenty of respect for George under the Disney administration, why do you think they're sticking to the Blu-Ray cuts of the OT from now on? If they were thinking like you were, they'd have buried those in favor of a re-release of the original cuts.
 

ctrlaltdel

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Lucas wanted to get the band back together on the Prequels, including Kasdan and Kershner, or get his friends Spielberg, Zemeckis, and Columbus aboard, but everyone was either busy with their own projects or just told George he should be the one to do it himself. He found himself in a "If I don't get this done myself now, it's probably not gonna get done" position and we ended up with the clunky written movies we got.

Clone Wars was the success it was because it was George's ideas filtered through a group of talented people. And George's mentorship on Filoni and the rest ensure that Star Wars is in good hands.

And there's plenty of respect for George under the Disney administration, why do you think they're sticking to the Blu-Ray cuts of the OT from now on? If they were thinking like you were, they'd have buried those in favor of a re-release of the original cuts.
I doubt they will release the original cuts as long as Lucas is alive. Remember, he is one of Disney's biggest individual shareholder. Disney is doing the right thing (like they did with Marvel) and not meddling too much with Lucasfilm, letting them essentially run their own company. Lucasfilm has hired a lot of talent (although I disagree with the hiring of Trevorrow to direct Ep. IX) to make the upcoming SW films, so I am hopeful for the future of the franchise. You can't say that Disney hasn't invested in the future of the property.
 

righttrack

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And there's plenty of respect for George under the Disney administration, why do you think they're sticking to the Blu-Ray cuts of the OT from now on? If they were thinking like you were, they'd have buried those in favor of a re-release of the original cuts.

The original cuts don't exist as a film master. Lucas had them destroyed. Only the non-anomorphic 1993 LaserDisc exists as a source and that wasn't good enough for Blu-Ray.

Lucas is an amazing creative person, I just think he got too wrapped up in his innovations which have of course changed the course of filmmaking history. He's a visionary, I just feel he should stick to his strengths.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
The original cuts don't exist as a film master. Lucas had them destroyed. Only the non-anomorphic 1993 LaserDisc exists as a source and that wasn't good enough for Blu-Ray.

Lucas is an amazing creative person, I just think he got too wrapped up in his innovations which have of course changed the course of filmmaking history. He's a visionary, I just feel he should stick to his strengths.

If they can use digital technology to put all the changes in, they can use it to take them out. :)
 

ctrlaltdel

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The original cuts don't exist as a film master. Lucas had them destroyed. Only the non-anomorphic 1993 LaserDisc exists as a source and that wasn't good enough for Blu-Ray.

Lucas is an amazing creative person, I just think he got too wrapped up in his innovations which have of course changed the course of filmmaking history. He's a visionary, I just feel he should stick to his strengths.
There is someone who put together an original cut for the trilogy online, which you can torrent. It may not be exactly the same as the originals but it's close. Can't quite remember the name. Anyways, the special editions aren't even that bad. Some of the things added are terrible (Jabba scene in ANH) some are great (Death Star attack in ANH) but most of the additions are unnecessary/you wouldn't really notice, and they are mostly the same films.
 

FigmentJedi

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There is someone who put together an original cut for the trilogy online, which you can torrent. It may not be exactly the same as the originals but it's close. Can't quite remember the name. Anyways, the special editions aren't even that bad. Some of the things added are terrible (Jabba scene in ANH) some are great (Death Star attack in ANH) but most of the additions are unnecessary/you wouldn't really notice, and they are mostly the same films.
Harmy's Despecialized Editions.

Additionally, there's prints of the originals in fandom hands that the fan preservation community has been digitizing and cleaning up for those purposes.
 

ctrlaltdel

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Harmy's Despecialized Editions.

Additionally, there's prints of the originals in fandom hands that the fan preservation community has been digitizing and cleaning up for those purposes.
That was it, thanks. I downloaded them onto my old computer but for whatever reason didn't transfer them over. They have the old school Lucasfilm logo and everything.
 

FigmentJedi

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Think of the theme park use. The elimination of Hyperspace Hoopla tells me they're looking to protect the integrity of the characters. Of course when it comes to merchandise, all bets are off.
It's a shame it had to go. The replacement end show just doesn't have any energy and is nothing but a curtain call for the day.

Would love to see Snig and Oopla turned into some sort of Holonet Morning Zoo show in the actual Star Wars continuity.
 
And there's plenty of respect for George under the Disney administration, why do you think they're sticking to the Blu-Ray cuts of the OT from now on? If they were thinking like you were, they'd have buried those in favor of a re-release of the original cuts.

I don't know if what he says is true, but John Landis seems to think Disney will be releasing the theatrical cuts soon:

 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
I was thinking about this rumor and wondering, with construction starting in the park next year if they decided that is was logistically impractical to do SWW until the major construction is complete.
 

Animaniac93-98

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I was thinking about this rumor and wondering, with construction starting in the park next year if they decided that is was logistically impractical to do SWW until the major construction is complete.

I'm sure it's nothing a few dozen pop up tents and folding card tables couldn't fix. ;)
 

ToTBellHop

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I was thinking about this rumor and wondering, with construction starting in the park next year if they decided that is was logistically impractical to do SWW until the major construction is complete.
It's Star Wars. If he has to, Bob Iger will personally build a 1/2 scale Millennium Falcon in the Tower of Terror queue if the rest of the park is closed to guests. And honestly, there is something very Twilight Zone about that.
 

djkidkaz

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I'm just gonna go ahead and say it, George Lucas is not that great. He made Original Star Wars which is great and Indiana Jones which is good but other than that, I wouldn't say he's some film genius. He's a guy who had a good idea and that was it. The fact that he continued to screw up the originals by adding CGI and then the prequels were terrible as was the latest Indiana jones, he doesn't sound like that great of a filmmaker to me. I think people continually give him a pass because he created Star Wars. Otherwise, what Lucas has contributed is minimal. I think the statement that was made in the beginning of that Walt PBS special was dead on. "Most people get maybe one thing right, Walt was a guy who got a lot of things right." And it's so true, Lucas got one thing right and that's it.
 

Animaniac93-98

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I'm just gonna go ahead and say it, George Lucas is not that great. He made Original Star Wars which is great and Indiana Jones which is good but other than that, I wouldn't say he's some film genius. He's a guy who had a good idea and that was it. The fact that he continued to screw up the originals by adding CGI and then the prequels were terrible as was the latest Indiana jones, he doesn't sound like that great of a filmmaker to me. I think people continually give him a pass because he created Star Wars. Otherwise, what Lucas has contributed is minimal. I think the statement that was made in the beginning of that Walt PBS special was dead on. "Most people get maybe one thing right, Walt was a guy who got a lot of things right." And it's so true, Lucas got one thing right and that's it.

Well...American Graffiti wasn't a bad movie either, but I agree that putting him in the same league as Spielberg or Scorsese is a stretch.
 

arko

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I'm just gonna go ahead and say it, George Lucas is not that great. He made Original Star Wars which is great and Indiana Jones which is good but other than that, I wouldn't say he's some film genius. He's a guy who had a good idea and that was it. The fact that he continued to screw up the originals by adding CGI and then the prequels were terrible as was the latest Indiana jones, he doesn't sound like that great of a filmmaker to me. I think people continually give him a pass because he created Star Wars. Otherwise, what Lucas has contributed is minimal. I think the statement that was made in the beginning of that Walt PBS special was dead on. "Most people get maybe one thing right, Walt was a guy who got a lot of things right." And it's so true, Lucas got one thing right and that's it.
Lucas is a great story teller, he is just not a great director or screen writer. But saying he got one thing right and thats it simply undercuts his tremendous contributiuon to cinema and media including ILM, Pixar, THX sound and LucasArts. Also like Disney he recognized the advantages of owning his own brand and rather than taking a high directors fee from Fox he got licensing and merchandising rights.
 

DisneyRoy

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No clue about SWW going away.

But, not sure if this has been discussed but the AP page on the WDW website says that Season of the Force is 1/8 - 3/20/16.

http://events.mydisneyresorts.com/apCal.html

No additional info is provided. While the other calendar items open up specific pages the SOTF item just opens up the same page in a new window.

Interesting....I have to believe with those dates that SWW are no more. Why have almost 3 months of Season of the Force, take a month and a half off only to then have SWW for 5 weeks again? Makes no sense. At least that's the way I see it...
 

YodaMan

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If Disneyland can start in November, I don't know if I believe that Studios will start two months later in January a solid three weeks after the film is already out.
 

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