Californian Elitist
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Marvel would have made been a better fit in Disneyland and Star Wars would have fit better in DCA.
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Star Wars themed land announced for Disneyland
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captainmoch
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Honestly, I disagree.
Disneyland is a kingdom of the worlds of yesterday, tomorrow, and fantasy. Star Wars pretty much strikes all three of these chords. Not to mention it already has had a presence there for nearly 30 years. Marvel is a loose fit into DCA, but they could work it in if it is themed like Stark Expo, which is 1) an even that took place in Malibu in Iron Man 2 and 2) fits with California being a state involved with a lot of technological innovation. A World Expo type thing in DCA makes sense IMO.
Is there any timeline you have heard on this? Will they wait until Star Wars is finished or will the projects overlap like MiceChat implied?
Californian Elitist
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I'll give you fantasy for Star Wars...today is a stretch, and tomorrow is a definite no.
Something themed to Stark Expo would have been a nice fit where Innoventions is, and with the right plans, could have stuck with Tomorrowland's original concept, REALISTIC futurism, in this case the future of technology.
Star Wars fits neither Disneyland nor California Adventure, which is already a pretty far cry from its original concept and look, but I'm DCA, they could have re-created Endor, with California Redwoods surrounding the area. That's a stretch as well, but Star Wars doesn't fit Disneyland at all.
Based on both my comment and your comment, it's pretty obvious both Star Wars and Marvel would have been better in their own park.
captainmoch
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Yeah, I'll give you that. In fact, shove Frozen in there too. Disney's We-Won't-Have-to-Shove-These-in-Other-Parks-Now Land.
TP2000
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I'd bet two churros that major new Marvel attractions will arrive in Disneyland within five to seven years. Star Tours will obviously have to be re-themed or bulldozed, and if it gets re-themed it can be the Iron Man ride that Hong Kong is getting using Star Tours simulators.
Once Star Wars Land opens they will have no choice but to turn their attention to Tomorrowland, and Marvel will be a big part of that.
That's not to say that a Captain America ride can't be built simultaneously behind Tower of Terror. There's plenty of Marvel themes that can fit in either park, just as there are plenty of Disney or Pixar themes that fit in both parks.
Californian Elitist
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I always forget about Captain America. The 40's theme would be nice for Hollywood Land.
GiveMeTheMusic
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I don't have a firm date, but I was told they would overlap.
Good to know. Thanks
lazyboy97o
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The love for Stark Expo in Tomorrowland saddens me. A total admission that themed entertainment is a weak, incapable medium not worthy of consideration on its own. What other medium is so lowly considered by its biggest fans?
Californian Elitist
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We've got lots of fans who are in favor of completely letting go of Tomorrowland's original point and theme, which I find sad. Stark Expo is a better choice in comparison to Star Wars. If I had it my way, neither would have a presence in Tomorrowland.
Old Mouseketeer
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Tomorrowland's original point and theme are dead. There is no "great big beautiful tomorrow" of plastics and petrochemicals and corporate benevolence. In the documentary on the 1964 World's Fair narrated by Judd Hirsch, he says that the Fair was obsolete before it opened and the "new" Tomorrowland at Disneyland in 1967 even more so. "Miracles from Molecules"? Seriously? "And that's our GE nuclear power plant over there." By 1974, the mini-Expo's theme was "Celebrating Tomorrow's Fresh New Environment".
The original ethos of Tomorrowland only exits at Tokyo Disneyland. And it's getting its footprint cut in half.
So what should Tomorrowland be? I submit that anything other than what it is would be better.
truecoat
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There is no possible way for there to be a "Tomorrowland" anymore. In the last 15 years, we created the same amount of technology as the previous 100 years. It will take about 6 years to do that again. Tomorrowland cannot exist the way it did before. The best you could do is some sort of retro-future style but that's not really Tomorrowland.
Californian Elitist
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For now, maybe, but we don't know the future of Tomorrowland.
This is not true. The future is never the same. I can think of multiple topics that that can be tackled in regards to their future.
George Lucas on a Bench
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How's that? They have the waterfalls and classic architecture, but looks like the same kind of junk you'd find at the other Tomorrowlands: Buzz Lightyear, Stitch, Monsters, Inc. etc.
lazyboy97o
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Theme/spirit and specific topics are not the same.
The explosion of technology is exactly what would make Tomorrowland exciting. It is also not the only subject that needs to be discussed. There are other topics that are on longer time frames, such as space exploration or sustainable practices in areas such as building. Disney loves to talk about being 'green' but have they ever built in such a manner? Even the centerpiece of their brand new land that is appropriate because of its conservation message is a massive air conditioned box.
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Deleted member 107043
This.
To be honest Marvel seems like a better fit for DL since that park has fewer restrictions on thematic storytelling than DCA does. Of the popular Marvel comic characters the only one that I can think of that makes sense in a park themed to California from the 1920s through the 1950s is Captain America.
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True, but the real question is are those topics things that resonate with modern guests the way that Star Wars or Marvel does. There are a lot of areas where WDI excels. Telling the future is not one of them, and it never has been.
Californian Elitist
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First, I want to say I completely disagree in regards to your last sentence. Completely. Well, I disagree with your entire post, but the last sentence stuck out the most.
Neither you nor I know what guests will and won't like. If Disney actually cared about Tomorrowland's original concept and came up with something, maybe we'd find out. But, as long as we have people out there who don't care and settle for things that don't fit like Star Wars and Marvel, Disney will continue to not care.
lazyboy97o
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Disney's California Adventure is not at all limited to the 1920s - 1950s.