rowrbazzle
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Essential, shmessential. It's an arbitrary designation. If Universal could continue construction, then why exactly couldn't Disney perform repairs?
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News Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance opening reports and using Boarding Groups at Disney's Hollywood Studios
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Twirlnhurl
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I agree. Certainly Spaceship Earth in 1982 had just as much demand as Rise has today. Heck, SSE is the first thing you see when you enter Epcot, and it is the icon of the park. While I imagine a sizable minority of DHS guests don't even realize that Rise exists and think the big ride is Millennium Falcon.
Twirlnhurl
Active Member
In hindsight, Universal was probably right to continue construction, as their risk management strategies during the pandemic have been far more consistent throughout than Disney's. However, in mid-March, it was far from obvious what the correct move should be.
donsullivan
Premium Member
Disney chose a very conservative approach to the safety of its employees back in March in every single part of the company. Those rules prevented anyone from entering any building during the shutdown except roles deemed essential such as security. That included all of the attraction buildings, construction sites, all of their office buildings around the US, etc.. In fact, most of the office space is still under those restrictions. Those constraints didn't start to loosen until June when they were preparing the construction and installation of all the distancing equipment thoughout the property in advance of the re-opening. Most of the Imagineering and construction teams were not back to work at that time and only started coming back in August.
rowrbazzle
Well-Known Member
The right move regarding new or ongoing projects (delayed vs cancelled, etc) is one thing. The right move regarding the most popular ride in the park that was plagued by reliability issues seems pretty simple to me.
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
Can you clarify what you mean by this?
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
Nothing has been as bad as Flight of Passage while remaining open.
donsullivan
Premium Member
Nothing has been anywhere the level of complexity either.
I don’t ever debate, or necessarily fault, the need for a lengthy test and adjust. It goes with the territory.
I have two major issues with Rise.
First is an imagineering one: the capacity is massively under designed considering its broad appeal and intended headliner ‘mega-E’ status. Even in the best case scenario, only a fraction of the daily attendance of HS can ride.
Second is operationally. The boarding group system is a flawed execution of a problematic concept with a massive bias towards repeat visitors and the technologically literate. If it’s going to come down to a lottery, make it fair and open access. Don’t require your guests to have to interpret your own rules... which require arrival prior to the published park opening time, essentially require smartphone and app integration, and being aware of and hitting the right button within an 8 second window. Then, you still might spend all day waiting to ride. That’s literally insanity. How can that possibly be defended as a positive guest experience? Even FoP in its days of high demand FP and 180 minute standby lines still was always accessible.
FeelsSoGoodToBeBad
Well-Known Member
And now I'm yet again VERY grateful that I am a member of these forums or I would be just like every other ignorant guest, trying to score the near-impossible ticket on luck and connection speed.
They asked for more time.
Magic Feather
Premium Member
And (to an extent) they got it.
Not enough obviously. They wanted another 4-6 weeks. Minimum.
The real blame lies with those who green lit such an ambitious attraction with a highly attractive IP to have such a low OHRC. Rise had the most B modes of any attraction to date. They knew it would be problematic if opened as it was. But higher ups okayed it.
EPCOT-O.G.
Well-Known Member
I don’t think it has.
EPCOT-O.G.
Well-Known Member
I saw this happen firsthand back in January. Nice elderly couple, wearing matching tennis type outfits, meandered over to the ride entrance. They were clearly interested in the experience and tried talking to the CM about riding. She couldn’t help, obviously, and tried explaining the reservation system. I could tell they were confused and disappointed but not emotionally so. I feel for people that just want to experience the parks and don’t have the tech savviness or the desire to keep up with the “rat race” aspect of things.
orky8
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Given the state of the BG frenzy, I think a few things need to change. First, it shouldn't be fastest fingers/connections gets the BG. It should be a random lottery. Second, I think they need to pre-assign the lottery process so you know before showing up at DHS whether you will get a ride. Perhaps by say 5PM the day before, you have to enter your party in the lottery and you'll be notified if you receive a BG and what BG you received by say 6PM the day before. Third, for those staying onsite, perhaps with at least an 3-4 night stay, you are should be guaranteed a BG and you can sorta list your days of preference in advance and Disney will assign one to you. This way, you know when you go to DHS, that you will get a ride.
Or just scrap the whole concept altogether and go stand-by only and how long you are willing to wait determines who rides. The problem here is how to prevent people from continually showing up earlier and earlier. I will say, though, as someone with young children, I do not favor this alternative, but at least you can't argue with the equity of such a system.
Or just scrap the whole concept altogether and go stand-by only and how long you are willing to wait determines who rides. The problem here is how to prevent people from continually showing up earlier and earlier. I will say, though, as someone with young children, I do not favor this alternative, but at least you can't argue with the equity of such a system.
BlackCauldron
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major issues this morning. Everyone around me was getting errors saying they weren’t in the park. I kept refreshing and got group 26. Doesn’t look like anything is boarding yet though. Fingers crossed again.