THE 1HAPPY HAUNT
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The land was designed for Disneyland then they decided to out one in florida. They didnt "jam" it in, it was designed for Disneyland and made slight alterations so it would fit in florida also
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Star Wars Land vs Wizarding World
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THE 1HAPPY HAUNT
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Because it is. The anakin obi-wan fight has no emotion behind it and goes on forever. Go watch Red Letter Media's review of Revenge of the sith where they give a perfect and excellent breakdown why this fight is awfulI was a kid in 2005 when I saw the Anakin/Obi-Wan duel in Revenge of the Sith. After seeing that as a kid, how am I supposed to view the Vader/Luke duel as superior?
Beacon Joe
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Sums it up nicely. Instead, we get some town nobody has heard of, full of characters nobody cares about, and a contrived "ceremony" that will cost you $200 plus tax. And two new rides. One that people actually want to experience, and one that people will ride, well, just because it's an available Fast Pass.
rkleinlein
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As I read these very entertaining comments, there seem to be two main complaints:
1) That the beloved original trilogy is ignored, and
2) That the execution of Galaxy's Edge is lackluster.
Either one of those flaws on their own would likely be forgiven, at least, I think, by most.
There would still be grumblings but the absence of original characters could be forgiven if the Millennium Falcon ride was spectacular and the new cantina dazzled. (This may come to pass if the much hyped "game-changing" attraction really is a game-changer.)
There would still be grumblings but a lackluster execution could be forgiven if people felt they were getting just what they wanted and expected. I think the Fantasyland and Toy Story Land expansions are examples of this.
But Galaxy's Edge fails to give too many people what they want and expect in a Star Wars land, and it has failed, thus far, to give anything truly spectacular. It's really hard, I think, to forgive both flaws. Especially with a cultural phenomenon that is so beloved and in an expansion that was so hyped.
1) That the beloved original trilogy is ignored, and
2) That the execution of Galaxy's Edge is lackluster.
Either one of those flaws on their own would likely be forgiven, at least, I think, by most.
There would still be grumblings but the absence of original characters could be forgiven if the Millennium Falcon ride was spectacular and the new cantina dazzled. (This may come to pass if the much hyped "game-changing" attraction really is a game-changer.)
There would still be grumblings but a lackluster execution could be forgiven if people felt they were getting just what they wanted and expected. I think the Fantasyland and Toy Story Land expansions are examples of this.
But Galaxy's Edge fails to give too many people what they want and expect in a Star Wars land, and it has failed, thus far, to give anything truly spectacular. It's really hard, I think, to forgive both flaws. Especially with a cultural phenomenon that is so beloved and in an expansion that was so hyped.
General Mayhem
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bryanfze55
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“You were my brother Anakin! I loved you!” Gets me every time, Happy Haunt.
We need more Ewan McGregor. Any truth to the rumors that Disney is creating an Obi-Wan show on Disney+ starring him?
Except that the relationship between Obi and Anakin just never felt genuine. Just like Luke has more sparks with his sister than anything Anakin and Padme had.
Thus when they had the fight, it just sort of felt like it was following the script. Even the location was silly. Blame the script, blame the director, blame the actors....blame them all? When I think of those films I think of wooden performances, dull lifeless dialogue, and drawn out action sequences that seem to be there to show off the cgi, not move the plot along.
I will say one thing. Maybe one of the problems with the new movies is that they had too many ties to the OT. They are slowly severing them, and maybe that is hurting fans, but man I will take that any day over a reboot.
And can we all agree Rouge One was the best of the new movies? I think because the cast was the strongest and, ironicly, the story was one of the more Original(even if it was a dumb plot).
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MisterT800
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Not to be all negative on Disney. I do like the concept of the Star Wars hotel where you are immersed to feel like you are traveling on a starship. We will see how it works in execution. Also, it will probably be priced so high to stay there most fans won't be able to afford it. I think one issue is that Harry Potter has slowly raised the bar for immersion. We need more than cool rides and nice aesthetics. We want to escape the world we see around us with all the bitterness, hate, and partisanship. To do that, we want the immersive experience. I am not even a Harry Potter fan, but I really enjoy the experience of the WWoHP. It should be the same with the Star Wars Land at Disney. You shouldn't have to be a fan and have watched all the movies to enjoy being immersed in a fantastic world from long, long ago. With Disney, we have come to "expect" them to be the "best" when it comes to theme parks. They just haven't seemed to figure out how to outdo Universal with their WWoHP. It's not that they don't have the means nor the talent to do it. It is the executive leadership and corporate mentality that as long as they are making profits, why change the formula. All I can say is that we have gone from spending $3k per year on Disney trips every year to maybe planning a trip every 5 years. It depends on how much the prices keep going up. I've heard such good things about Tokyo DisneySea, that we have talked about visiting Japan to go see it. Why should I have to travel half way around the world to see a well thought out and executed Disney theme park addition?
erasure fan1
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Not really. The problem was they didn't slowly sever the OT. Give the OT characters their one last adventure and by the end of the 3rd movie the torch is past. Not ignore Luke completely, and barely use Leia, and kill Solo in your first movie. Fans understand that the OT characters needed to step aside, but Disney did it too abruptly and without respecting the history of the characters. And yes, Rouge one was the best of the Disney star wars.
rkleinlein
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Thanks for posting this. None of this sounds good. What a shame.
With all due respect. I don't know if Harrison Ford wanted to be in it beyond one film, the guy had been asking for a death scene since Empire, Carrie Fisher passes away....so what more could you expect there? I agree Luke was not used in a proper way and also seemed to be a totally different character than the one from the first 3 films.
OG Runner
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What do you base that on? I am pretty sure that for every reaction you reference there are others that absolutely love it.
On the other hand, I know there are other people that have the same two reactions for WWoHP. The overall reactions are
going to be determined by how much the person likes the source material. I am sure there are people that would go to
WWoHP constantly would not step foot in GE and vice versa.
erasure fan1
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That is the exact reason I really don't care or haven't paid any attention to the project. If the cost is what we all think it will be, Disney will be pricing out a lot of the fans. And that is a mistake.
Galaxys edge was made, not from a fan first mentality, but from a check off the different profit boxes mentality. Potter feels like it was made for the fans first. Not that Universal doesn't want profit, oh they very much do. But they were smart enough to realize that if you build the experience for the fans first, the money will come. I wonder what other guy who created his own theme park used this thought process? Hmmm
Completely agree. Gonna get laughed off this board, but Rouge One is actually my favorite Star Wars film, period.
And the Carrie Fisher scene where she floats off into space and comes back was so corny it almost ruined the whole movie for me... Other than that I didn't really mind episode viii
erasure fan1
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I agree I don't think Ford really wanted to be in more than one movie. But he also likes money, so I'm sure they could have got him for at least the 2nd movie. But regardless we never got the OT characters back together again even with them all involved in 7. Fisher died after she was done with her parts, that means they could have had 2 movies with the OT characters being relevant, and the 3rd be the transition to the new generation. It should have been a pretty simple thing but they fumbled the hand-off.
I think other than Leia, the other thing that was was kinda bad was to see that after all these years, Han and Luke really hadn't developed at all as characters. Heck I love the classic Han look but it just made his age more pronounced to be running around in the same get up after 30 some years.
bryanfze55
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The only actual good Star Wars movie is The Empire Strikes Back... yet I still enjoy them all.
Mark IV Fan
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Thanks for pointing out the obvious that no 2 people are exactly like.
I’m going on the basis that, so far at least, Potter has been a non stop home run money maker for Universal, whereas GE has opened to mixed reviews and smaller than expected crowds. Which is the exact same thing that Disney and Universal will base the success on.
If I say Coke is more beloved than RC Cola, just because someone will smugly say “Oh, yeah? What are you basing that on? I know people who love RC Cola” it doesn’t change the fact that Coke crushes it in pretty much every measurable metric.
Right now Potter is looking like Coke and GE is RC Cola. Feel free to play contrarian all you want and debt it.