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Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

flynnibus

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Are you trying to tell me that Disney won't turn a profit with all of the overpriced food and made-in-china merchandise that they drastically mark up including the increases in ticket and hotel prices every year, plus all of the additional charges they are add on to visits
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I'm saying that 'success' does not equal returns. It's basic business principles that go ignored by people that just whine as customers.

Not only must I generate interest, I must generate a return that eventually EXCEEDS my costs. Hence what I spend matters... so throwing around completely unrelated numbers as if they have money to burn suggests you think spending doesn't matter.. because success will win out. Well... what you spend STILL MATTERS.

Successful businesses close all the time because people didn't know how to manage the business to be a self-sustaining or profitable one.
 

WildernessLodge

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AttractionMovieHow old was the IP
Sleeping Beauty Castle (1955)*Sleeping Beauty (1959)-4
Mr. Toads Wild Ride (1955)*The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad (1949)6
Alice in Wonderland (1958)*Alice in Wonderland (1951)7
Peter Pan's Flight (1955)*Peter Pan (1953)2
Mad Tea Party (1955)*Alice in Wonderland (1951)4
Roger Rabit Cartoon Spin (1994)*Roger Rabbit (1988)6
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1999)*Bought the IP in 2001-2
Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin (1998)Toy Story 2 (1999)-1
Magic Carpets of Aladdin (2001)Aladdin (1992)9
Stitch's Great Escape! (2004)Lilo and Stitch (2002)2
And many more
Disney bought Star Wars ~6.5 years ago in October of 2012. As weird as this sounds here are some things that Disney opened in less time after acquiring or creating as an IP:

*Denotes outside IP bought or used by Disney
My post wasn't so much about the timing though it was about the actual IP and it's placement within the park. And to my knowledge no other non-Disney IP has it's own land except Pandora, right? Yes, I know Star Wars is Disney now lol.
 

wdwmagic

Administrator
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VIDEO - On-board the Millennium Falcon in Star Wars Galaxy's Edge

Guide to all the characters, creatures and droids that you will find at Star Wars Galaxy's Edge

The ships, speeders and transport that you'll find in Star Wars Galaxy's Edge

VIDEO - Spectacular drone flight through Star Wars Galaxy's Edge at Disneyland
 

mikejs78

Premium Member
and generally doesn't see that kind of density unless you look at entire new parks.
And even then, the last two parks Disney opened in Orlando had 2 and 3 rides *in the whole park* respectively.

And that's my problem. Disney is doing just what they can do to satiate the masses just enough to get us into the gates. Then they raise the prices. But nothing has really been amazing for a very long time.
You keep tying something being amazing to ride quantity. Name me the lands in Disney World that opened with more than two or three rides in the first year? I'll give you a hint: there's only two. Let's go down the list.

MK
Main Street: 1
Adventureland: 1
Frontierland: 1
Liberty Square: 1
Fantasyland: 9
Tomorrowland: 1

Epcot
Future World: 6
World Showcase: 1

DHS:
Hollywood Blvd: 1
Sunset Blvd: 1
Echo Lake: 0
Studio Backlot: 1
Toy Story Land: 3(2)
Galaxy's Edge: 2

DAK
Africa: 1
Dinoland: 1
Asia: 1
Pandora: 2

So when exactly was this golden age where Disney would build these large lands with many rides? In 50 years of WDW, no land has has more than 3 rides opening year except Fantasyland in MK and Future World in Epcot.

If anything, they seem to be increasing their initial ride count. Historically, almost all lands opened with one ride only. Now we have 3 new lands in the last few years, each with two new rides.

Also, when was the last time we got three new lands in 4 years?
 

Darth Snips

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Hey @sedati, you might have the answer to your questions about that mystery building next to the garage:

Looks like it’s used to put on a little stunt show. I remember them talking about having action sequences break out on rooftops at Star Wars Celebration 2017. Some of this fight choreography even looks like the test footage they showed.

Of course, this could just be for the media preview tonight. It does look like it’s what that space was designed for though, so hopefully it’s here for the long term.
 
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Rich Brownn

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And even then, the last two parks Disney opened in Orlando had 2 and 3 rides *in the whole park* respectively.


You keep tying something being amazing to ride quantity. Name me the lands in Disney World that opened with more than two or three rides in the first year? I'll give you a hint: there's only two. Let's go down the list.

MK
Main Street: 1
Adventureland: 1
Frontierland: 1
Liberty Square: 1
Fantasyland: 9
Tomorrowland: 1

Epcot
Future World: 6
World Showcase: 1

DHS:
Hollywood Blvd: 1
Sunset Blvd: 1
Echo Lake: 0
Studio Backlot: 1
Toy Story Land: 3(2)
Galaxy's Edge: 2

DAK
Africa: 1
Dinoland: 1
Asia: 1
Pandora: 2

So when exactly was this golden age where Disney would build these large lands with many rides? In 50 years of WDW, no land has has more than 3 rides opening year except Fantasyland in MK and Future World in Epcot.

If anything, they seem to be increasing their initial ride count. Historically, almost all lands opened with one ride only. Now we have 3 new lands in the last few years, each with two new rides.

Also, when was the last time we got three new lands in 4 years?
All of the MK lands opened with more than two attractions though, unlike TSL or SWL. Main Street had train, vehicles, cinema. Adventureland Junge;, Treehouse, Tiki; LQ had Mansion, Presidents, Diamond Horshoe, Riverboat....
 

DoubleJ21

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So any idea when DL's version of ROTR will open? They say: "later this year," which doesn't sound too optimistic but I suspect they just don't want anybody putting off their vacations anymore.
 

peter11435

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All of the MK lands opened with more than two attractions though, unlike TSL or SWL. Main Street had train, vehicles, cinema. Adventureland Junge;, Treehouse, Tiki; LQ had Mansion, Presidents, Diamond Horshoe, Riverboat....
How many did Frontierland have though?
 
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mikejs78

Premium Member
All of the MK lands opened with more than two attractions though, unlike TSL or SWL. Main Street had train, vehicles, cinema. Adventureland Junge;, Treehouse, Tiki; LQ had Mansion, Presidents, Diamond Horshoe, Riverboat....
First the claim made was specifically about rides, not attractions. So I was responding to that.

Second, one could argue that the interactivity of the land is an attraction, and a pretty big one.

Third, even looking at Main Street, Adventure Land, etc, that brings the count up to 3 for those - one more than the recent lands.

How many did Frontierland have though?
Or Tomorrowland?
 

drod1985

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Cross posting from the DL review thread.

Great overview of the entire land. Gets more in depth on dining and merch after Trowbridge.

 

Phicinfan

Well-Known Member
Why did Marvel make Endgame? They didn't need to make that massive 3 hour movie and tied the MCU together into the film for 10 years prior. They did so because they wanted to, and for the sake of the story and the fans, it was important to them.

Believe me, Disney is going to make plenty of money and would have made more even if they made Star Wars an entire fifth park.
Well, that's an apples and oranges comparison isn't it.
Point blank, they could put in spinners in every park for the next three years at a rate of a spinner a month and they would still make money.

But... we are not talking about just any amount of money. They have to continue to increase attendance to keep money flowing.

Some of these rides are costing Millions of dollars. Even if they are just clones.

I would argue on the 5th park issue. I wonder when they hit that limit and at some point attendance drops and they have to find a different way to do things.
 

Tavernacle12

Well-Known Member
I found it ironic that they decided to base the land in the time of Poe, Rey and Kylo, yet for the dedication of the land they only have three of the oldest characters, Luke, Han and Lando on stage. No Rey, No Poe, No Kylo, None of the newer characters!
I think:
A. They might be saving the newer cast for the Resistance ride’s premiere since they’re a part of it.
B. The old cast lives much closer to Anaheim so getting them there for a quick PR thing would be easier.
 
So any idea when DL's version of ROTR will open? They say: "later this year," which doesn't sound too optimistic but I suspect they just don't want anybody putting off their vacations anymore.
I’m holding out hope it will be August when I’m there for D23.
I don’t know whether we’ve had any word as to how far away they are from the finish line now in DL?
 

Jones14

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All of the MK lands opened with more than two attractions though, unlike TSL or SWL. Main Street had train, vehicles, cinema. Adventureland Junge;, Treehouse, Tiki; LQ had Mansion, Presidents, Diamond Horshoe, Riverboat....
Toy Story Land opened with the Green Army Man show, though, and we’re still not fully aware of how substantial the mini shows with the characters throughout SWL will be. Somebody else mentioned the interactive elements, too.
 
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