Or the same 2 1/2 people agreeing with each other over and over how everything is a failure? So not fatiguing.
Or the middle road...acknowledging the good things about the place while acknowledging it hasn’t been a smash hit on any level.
We continue to now have the revisionist stance that nobody here expected mobs.
Just LOOK at the threads 1,2,3 years ago...this stance folds like toilet paper.
Discussing a lukewarm reception won’t get Disney to revoke your vacation club or AP (If you were dumb enough to pay the current prices)...so its ok to discuss the possibilities.
It's appealing to a lot of people here. That invalidates your statement on its face.
You are trying to disprove an opinion with completely “impossible to prove” evidence. Attendance has been light at both parks...we can see it and Disney has even acknowledged it. Let’s see how it plays out.
It's appealing to Disney fans. The same people who keep going to the parks on a regular basis. I'll give you that. But don't expect a boost in attendance. It won't happen!
There's a reason AP holders saw a nearly 20% price increase last year, why a 'lightsaber' cost $200, and why some alcoholic beverages are near $75 in SWGE. Got to milk the same cow.
Agree...and the fact there isn’t a larger crowd with the total captive wdw audience is again a “problem”...I don’t think anyone in Disney ops will dispute that.
I've been a star wars fan long before I've been a Disney/Parks fan. And I highly enjoy the new Trilogy. I know I'm not alone in that.
Not alone...but is that sequence doing enough?
You can always find people to like it...but Disney parks and Star Wars are both mass market products. How has the franchise been trending? I can only imagine how much box office loss rian johnson has caused for Episode 9 already?? I bet Disney has an idea though.
I do. My two brothers do. A bunch of my Star Wars nerd friends do. A bunch of our kids do.
And according to this recent article on upcoming films' social media engagement it's likely that a bunch of people online do.
Star Wars is Star Wars. A Stormtrooper is a Stormtrooper, an X-Wing is an X-Wing. The core elements and design language are all there. The land being set in the ST vs the OT has zero impact on the average park goers impression of the land.
Based on wait times park attendance is down across the board. That's indicative of a problem outside of the scope of Galaxy's Edge.
It’s not all the same...and i notice you are prequel age.
Nobody argues it’s “all the same”. There are highlights and lowlights, good and bad. With anything in life.
It is what it is. Opinions vary. I don’t think the argument can be made the new movies are resonating anywhere near the originals. Things change.
They had a box office flop and sales of Star Wars stuff is down big time. Adult collectors appear to be keeping them Afloat.
It doesn’t matter if you don’t believe there is a problem...Disney does
I don't quite get the people who are so vehemently against the new Star Wars trilogy.
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Do I personally think it's good? Not really, no... it's not that it's BAD, it's just sort of boring. I think I'm a huge outlier, though, in that I believe Force Awakens was the problem rather than the Last Jedi. From a film making standpoint the whole Canto Bight scene was a huge misfire that felt like it belonged in a separate movie, but generally the movie was fine for what it was. I wasn't a fan of most of the plot decisions made by Rian Johnson, but almost all of those issues are directly a result of the Force Awakens plot and he at least tried to shake things up. JJ Abrams put the galaxy in the worst possible place; almost anything would have been more interesting than his choice to reset everything back to a small rebellion against a big evil menace.
Regardless, I don't understand why people trash it everywhere. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean it's objectively bad or that other people are wrong to like it.
You posed your entire question in the first sentence. Simple answer: the “trilogy” has been a reboot...followed by nonsense...killing the old characters while tinkering with canon not needed to be tinkering with and flat, unmemorable characters.
Much closer to prequel than OT.
Star Wars fans will defend the honor of their emotional attachment. It’s what created the entire franchise...to be succinct.
Try 15 Minutes, with everything else in the park 5. I love your enthusiasm for SWGE, but in its current form the launch has been a bomb. Not as bad as DLR, but no where near expectations. This wasn’t supposed to happen. Boarding groups were expected to be in place till the end of September, they lasted less than 10 hours. Hotel bookings were to be sold out through 2020, they aren’t, all those price increases they expected people to suck up aren’t being tolerated. And all I hear is excuses and apologies for why SWGE underperforming.
My ire is not directed at SW, it’s directed at incompetent leadership at P&R. Their missteps never wind up hurting anyone but guests through cuts and price increases and now they are reaping the rewards of their incompetence.
Things may get better or they may not, but whatever winds up happening with SWGE doesn’t change where it is now.
Just don’t go around towing the Disney line that everything is awesome (sorry wrong brand) because it’s STAR WARS! This failure should be a mechanism to clear out execs in P&R and WDI complacent with mediocrity and stupidity.
I don’t decree the land a failure by any stretch. But the Launch still has been a bomb. Iger has all but admitted it. I am surprised they didn’t get an uptick in Florida...even in September. I think the market is in correction...finally
