News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

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[PB Watermelon]

ELLIOTT
This is Greedo, and this is Hammerhead...

 

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[TROR]

 

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[Professortango1]

It's the difference between the theoretical approaches each land is taking that separates the two. The average park guest shouldn't be who the Imagineers cater to (that's how you end up with Pixar Pier).

Essentially being Discovery Bay, and actually being Discovery bay are two very different things.




As I said, it's very possible to rationalize it's existence inside Disneyland- but that doesn't mean it's a perfect fit. You're allowing yourself a lot of broad generalizations- stuff like "Does it fit in a studio park more? I guess thematically" and "It's essentially Discovery Bay" aren't comforting.

For starters- while the original lands drew heavy inspiration from the films of the 40s and 50s, they weren't approached with the intent of replicating those films. This allowed Frontierland, Adventureland, and Tomorrowland to change and adapt as future tastes changed.

Star Wars Land doesn't have this luxury- it's unlikely it will become timeless, I fear the "one IP land" is a 2010's fad that will die out as consumer tastes change. Even Star wars will continue to grow and evolve- but Batuu being mapped out from the beginning will have limited opportunity for growth or evolution.



It's not based on old tales- it's based on 2010's tales that Disney put out. It's not based on the original trilogy- which are arguably timeless and could potentially have a place in Disneyland (like an attraction or two, not a whole land), it's based on Disney's attempt at recreating those tales with their own characters. Disney has actively tried to move away from the iconic characters that defined Star Wars for generations- Luke, Leia, Han, Darth Vader, the original Storm Troopers.

And when the sequel trilogy ends with a lukewarm response from fans and Disney reimagines Star Wars again, the Battle Escape attraction will be using imagery that's neither iconic or beloved (TLJ had a very mixed reception, and each film Disney has put out has had less merchandise sales then what came before).

Aiming to impress the average guest is an acceptable goal. Aiming to appease the average guest is very different.

And the land is based on Star Wars as a whole, not just the new trilogy. It still has the Falcon, a rough space port, the evil Empire/First Order, and Rebels/Resistance fighters. The new Trilogy is almost a soft reboot of the original trilogy, the same concepts and ideas as present. Makes for mediocre film, but the good news is that the new land will reflect the most iconic things in Star Wars without riding any specific movie.

It fits the park just fine.

 

[Rich T]

The statue looks like something my neighbor's dog left on the sidewalk.

 

[Phroobar]

The statue looks like something my neighbor's dog left on the sidewalk.

I agree. It doesn't look like Hammerhead to me.

 

[Rich T]

I agree. It doesn't look like Hammerhead to me.

I can see Hammerhead saying "Shush" inside of it. The whole thing actually looks like my neighbor's dog swallowed a Hammerhead action figure whole and then later gave it back to the world in his own unique way.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I can see Hammerhead saying "Shush" inside of it. The whole thing actually looks like my neighbor's dog swallowed a Hammerhead action figure whole and then later gave it back to the world in his own unique way.

What's written on the statue explains its blobulous state.

 

[Phroobar]

I was kind of expecting this in scale.

 

[Rich T]

Walrus Man gets no statue love???

 

[Rich T]

If there is just one...*one*... reference to Dex and his diner anywhere in GE, I will be so happy I'll buy an overpriced T-shirt in the new land.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Hammerhead wasn't dressed in a bright blue one-piece swimsuit. In fact, I think that's a man, baby. What were they thinking with that toy?

 

[SuddenStorm]

Aiming to impress the average guest is an acceptable goal. Aiming to appease the average guest is very different.

And the land is based on Star Wars as a whole, not just the new trilogy.

It's based on the new trilogy, which was based on the original trilogy.

It still has the Falcon,

The sequel era falcon- it has the dish that is seen in the Force Awakens, not the OT era.

a rough space port,

Which IMO doesn't fit in Disneyland.

We're lucky they were smarter in the 60s and made New Orleans Square fit the feel of Disneyland- instead of trying to accurately recreate it with sleazy bars, an accurate Mardi Gras recreation, and walkaround characters that reek of alcohol.

the evil Empire/First Order, and Rebels/Resistance fighters.

It's based on the First Order/Resistance- the attractions aren't going to have the iconic imagery from the original trilogy- it's going to have the 2010's Disney era spin. Saying that it's the essentially the Empire and Rebels is disingenuous.

The original trilogy stormtrooper is iconic, nostalgic, and timeless- the First Order version is not. Darth Vader is timeless, Kylo Ren is not. Emperor Palpatine is iconic, Snoke is not.

If the new attraction was based on the actual original trilogy era, which are timeless classics and pure Americana, I could understand the justification. But Disney's trilogy just isn't as iconic and isn't as good.

The new Trilogy is almost a soft reboot of the original trilogy, the same concepts and ideas as present. Makes for mediocre film, but the good news is that the new land will reflect the most iconic things in Star Wars without riding any specific movie.

It fits the park just fine.

A lot of allowances and generalizations have to be made to say it fits "fine". Just because the Disney trilogy was modeled after the original, does not mean that they're comparable or interchangeable, especially in themed entertainment.

Imagine if they changed every depiction of Mickey to fit those god awful cartoons they've been putting out recently. Yes, it'd still be Mickey- but it wouldn't be the Mickey anyone cares about. It'd be incredibly disappointing and change the look and feel of the most iconic aspects of the park- the floral at the front and the character as seen in parades and shows.

Fortunately, the walk around characters will be able to fluctuate between the era's and adapt easily as consumer tastes change, but I worry that the Alcatraz attraction will age poorly and in a couple decades feel very 2010s- as opposed to being timeless like Big Thunder, Pirates, and the Haunted Mansion.

 

[Kram Sacul]

If there is just one...*one*... reference to Dex and his diner anywhere in GE, I will be so happy I'll buy an overpriced T-shirt in the new land.

There might be a dumpster out back. Would that count?

 

[Phroobar]

I was hoping Baron Papanoida would make an appearance.

 

[Rich T]

There might be a dumpster out back. Would that count?

No. No, that would NOT count, seeing as D. Jettster was the most interesting and genuinely fun character in the entire prequel trilogy!!! If "Solo" had been "Dex", we'd have had a true blockbuster on our hands! And where's the TV series???? The plush??? The official line of kitchen appliances and grilling utensils???

 

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No. No, that would NOT count, seeing as D. Jettster was the most interesting and genuinely fun character in the entire prequel trilogy!!! If "Solo" had been "Dex", we'd have had a true blockbuster on our hands! And where's the TV series???? The plush??? The official line of kitchen appliances and grilling utensils???

Closest we got was this

 

[Rich T]

Closest we got was this

I had it. I lost it.