News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[Disney Irish]

My take? The land was CLEARLY designed for disneyland. Form language sensitive to rivers of america, the curviture of the land around the roa, and the rock wall facade to battle escape is meant to block out mickey and friends. It answers to all of disneylands complex site conditions and none of walt disney worlds (nonexistent) conditions. Knowing the land was designed with disneyland in mind will always make me feel like it is more at-home there.

I set out to write about how Florida might have the advantage of some special sunset lighting but really they’re just position differently and will have different natural lighting, with no clear winner, though again, I think disneyland wins. Florida’s pro is that the entire land is basically built along its eastern edge (though it is tilted northwestern facing), which could pick up some really nice sunsets. USH’s potter is also north facing, but its facade opens to the west so hogwarts gets good direct light during the afternoon/sunset. I imagine battle escape over there will be a little like this, but falcoln will be in the dark at all times except morning, with some edge lighting on the right side of tallest peaks at sunset . Disneyland's is south-facing and will always be front-lit, with alternating highlghts and shadows. battle escape being in shadow at sunset and millennium falcoln picking up some golden sun on its interior/left side. The storefronts at disneyland and the falcoln etc will all be able to be appreciated in direct sunlight, while orlando’s wont. This means disneylands wil be way easier to photograph and appreciate the details and colors and textures in, while walt disney worlds will spend more peak daylight in shadows, creating hard contrasts that some might think are moody and cool.

My post was a joke not to be taken seriously, really to poke fun at the land vs land debate.

 

[mickEblu]

Unless its upcharge and fastpass/my magic +, so that every feature of the land has an operating income. Check out the way fantasmic’s viewing area went from free to organized and free to essentially half free and half reserved.

Good point. If they find away to monetize it then I can definitely see that level of immersion/ guest interaction sticking around.

 

[TP2000]

My take? The land was CLEARLY designed for disneyland. From language sensitive to rivers of america, the curviture of the land around the roa, and the rock wall facade to battle escape is meant to block out mickey and friends. It answers to all of disneylands complex site conditions and none of walt disney worlds (nonexistent) conditions. Knowing the land was designed with disneyland in mind will always make me feel like it is more at-home there.

I set out to write about how Florida might have the advantage of some special sunset lighting but really they’re just position differently and will have different natural lighting, with no clear winner, though again, I think disneyland wins. Florida’s pro is that the entire land is basically built along its eastern edge (though it is tilted northwestern facing), which could pick up some really nice sunsets. USH’s potter is also north facing, but its facade opens to the west so hogwarts gets good direct light during the afternoon/sunset. I imagine battle escape over there will be a little like this, but falcoln will be in the dark at all times except morning, with some edge lighting on the right side of tallest peaks at sunset . Disneyland's is south-facing and will always be front-lit, with alternating highlghts and shadows. battle escape being in shadow at sunset and millennium falcoln picking up some golden sun on its interior/left side. The storefronts at disneyland and the falcoln etc will all be able to be appreciated in direct sunlight, while orlando’s wont. This means disneylands wil be way easier to photograph and appreciate the details and colors and textures in, while walt disney worlds will spend more peak daylight in shadows, creating hard contrasts that some might think are moody and cool.

Fantastic explanation! I had been wondering how the opposite placement of each land would change things; south facing at Disneyland and north facing at DHS. Plus how the difference in light/humidity at each location would amplify the look of opposite placements of each land; golden sunlight in dry Southern California and whiter sunlight in humid Central Florida.

And yes, it's quite obvious the land layout was designed to fit Disneyland first, and then trimmed around the edges and plopped into DHS.

The Rivers of America at WDW's Magic Kingdom is in such a sad and sorry state now, I wonder if WDI ever considered putting Star Wars into the northern tier of Magic Kingdom Park and redoing their Rivers of America like Disneyland got? I know why they chose DHS (a dying park in desperate need of expansion and investment), but I just wonder if they ever gave a passing thought to duplicating the Disneyland Star Wars placement at Magic Kingdom in WDW?

 

[vancee]

I know this is off topic, but I'm pretty sure some of you here own cameras and like to take pictures. I'm going to Germany and London for 2 weeks next week and was looking for a camera.. Anyone have any recommendations? If not, I'll have to stick with my iPhone X (I haven't tested the camera quality yet).

 

[smile]

For years before EPCOT opened I had been salivating over this concept art, so you can imagine how excited I was to finally step foot in there a year or so after it finally opened.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Now, as Threepio once said, we should leave this dreadful place.

 

[Old Mouseketeer]

It was probably required that the doors to the outside be transparent for obvious reason of making it clear it was a doorway. The inner hydrolator doors were more futuristic.

No. Just no. Those glass outer doors are the ones installed AFTER the end of United Technologies' sponsorship. Did you not even bother to read the multiple responses in this thread?

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

I remember glass doors always being there. They've always been all over EPCOT. I guess I'm not old enough to remember The Living Seas without sliding glass doors, thank goodness.

 

[nevol]

Yes! The thought had crossed my mind but then I thought that I’m not sure a boat ride is the best way to the tell the Coco story but why not. It could / would work.

A psychedelic Golden Dreams!

 

[mickEblu]

A psychedelic Golden Dreams!

Lol. I thought they were going to save this theme for the new Tomorrowland ride they have cooked up... Moll-E

 

[nevol]

Lol. I thought they were going to save this theme for the new Tomorrowland ride they have cooked up... Moll-E

Wall-E 2: Wall-E Does Coachella

 

[TP2000]

I know this is off topic, but I'm pretty sure some of you here own cameras and like to take pictures. I'm going to Germany and London for 2 weeks next week and was looking for a camera.. Anyone have any recommendations? If not, I'll have to stick with my iPhone X (I haven't tested the camera quality yet).

I took my iPhone X to Singapore and Japan last year and it took fantastic photos and videos. Truly great!

Here's the very latest from Star Wars Land courtesy of our favorite lady blogger...

 

[Hattieboxghost110]

My take? The land was CLEARLY designed for disneyland. Form language sensitive to rivers of america, the curviture of the land around the roa, and the rock wall facade to battle escape is meant to block out mickey and friends. It answers to all of disneylands complex site conditions and none of walt disney worlds (nonexistent) conditions. Knowing the land was designed with disneyland in mind will always make me feel like it is more at-home there.

I set out to write about how Florida might have the advantage of some special sunset lighting but really they’re just position differently and will have different natural lighting, with no clear winner, though again, I think disneyland wins. Florida’s pro is that the entire land is basically built along its eastern edge (though it is tilted northwestern facing), which could pick up some really nice sunsets. USH’s potter is also north facing, but its facade opens to the west so hogwarts gets good direct light during the afternoon/sunset. I imagine battle escape over there will be a little like this, but falcoln will be in the dark at all times except morning, with some edge lighting on the right side of tallest peaks at sunset . Disneyland's is south-facing and will always be front-lit, with alternating highlghts and shadows. battle escape being in shadow at sunset and millennium falcoln picking up some golden sun on its interior/left side. The storefronts at disneyland and the falcoln etc will all be able to be appreciated in direct sunlight, while orlando’s wont. This means disneylands wil be way easier to photograph and appreciate the details and colors and textures in, while walt disney worlds will spend more peak daylight in shadows, creating hard contrasts that some might think are moody and cool.

Respect

 

[nevol]

Respect

I’ll take it

 

[BD-Anaheim]

Fantastic explanation! I had been wondering how the opposite placement of each land would change things; south facing at Disneyland and north facing at DHS. Plus how the difference in light/humidity at each location would amplify the look of opposite placements of each land; golden sunlight in dry Southern California and whiter sunlight in humid Central Florida.

And yes, it's quite obvious the land layout was designed to fit Disneyland first, and then trimmed around the edges and plopped into DHS.

The Rivers of America at WDW's Magic Kingdom is in such a sad and sorry state now, I wonder if WDI ever considered putting Star Wars into the northern tier of Magic Kingdom Park and redoing their Rivers of America like Disneyland got? I know why they chose DHS (a dying park in desperate need of expansion and investment), but I just wonder if they ever gave a passing thought to duplicating the Disneyland Star Wars placement at Magic Kingdom in WDW?

They didn't need to shove it into a castle park in Orlando, where it would be thematically incongruent with the rest of the park.

 

[nevol]

They didn't need to shove it into a castle park in Orlando, where it would be thematically incongruent with the rest of the park.

We already have NOS, critter country, toontown, and indiana jones adventure and star tours. taking all that into account, plus the decaying tomorrowland turned fantasyland, disneyland was already a magic kingdom meets studio park without a second gate, that eventually got a second gate. magic kingdom is more pure in that sense. i see this as an evolution of the tone of indiana jones and star tours, with a new orleans square level of exploratory marketplaces and adventureland's exoticism (at the scale of radiator springs). Imagine if radiator springs didn't only look incredible, but held your attention for half a day or more. rt66 just isnt that interesting. The more I get excited about this the less i can picture disneyland without it. There will be 2 new e-tickets around the rivers of america, and 2 new mountains there too. a full loop layout around ROA, lending more foot traffic to critter country. 40 years ago, discovery bay would have been really cool, blending a lot of different disneyland land styles that were more distinct and purely separated in the magic kingdom before that (it was like frontierland with victorian and some steampunk/space aesthetics). So there is precedence in all of the ways I already mentioned plus the notion that whatever goes here isn't pure aesthetically like core of the magic kingdom's lands, but a collage of styles. I am really excited to be able to go there and be blown away and then emerge back in disneyland's core along the ROA in my favorite place on earth.

Geyser mountain? cool, but a little simple for today's audiences and we already have a tower system at dca. lone ranger? No thanks. Mysterious mountain from tds? amazing but a volcano behind ROA doesn't work. There aren't many other things that could go there and work as well as this does. I'd like to see a wizard of oz, beauty and the beast, and mary poppins included in a fl expansion and tony baxter talked a lot about an oz indoor land and e-ticket they developed not long ago for behind critter country. Was it to go over where the tram loading is? Or battle escape? I don't know exactly. But near splash and not the discovery bay plot.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

It's complicated because while TMK is bigger than DL, it has a lot of dead space that can and should be developed and fewer attractions whereas DL is smaller and loaded to the brim with attractions and probably needs the expansion. SWL in TMK would be counterproductive, especially when two of the other parks are in pretty bad shape. WDW takes the extra space for granted. See new Fantasyland, which added more huge open areas of concrete and nothing particularly worthwhile. SWL will at least assuredly have some cool stuff to do.

While it's huge compared to the typical DL area, it looks like it was designed for DL. Two big E tickets, alleyways to explore, themed restaurants... it's NOS crossed with SW on steroids.

 

[JediMasterMatt]

While it's huge compared to the typical DL area, it looks like it was designed for DL. Two big E tickets, alleyways to explore, themed restaurants... it's NOS crossed with SW on steroids

Our resident contrarian is quite right, NOS was very much the intended vibe for SWL's conception. When it's all said and done, it should have a very similar feel and when accounting for the show buildings, takes up a similar footprint.

Still... should've been down the street; but, they did the best they could with the mandate that was given.

 

[Curious Constance]

Is anyone at all concerned with the run down look to a lot of the buildings/shops in Star Wars land?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Is anyone at all concerned with the run down look to a lot of the buildings/shops in Star Wars land?

No.

Almost all of Animal Kingdom is themed in a similar way and it has the most artistic integrity of any domestic theme park.