News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[britain]

When one thinks about how some of the vehicles in Mystic Manor split off from one another and go on slightly different paths... I wonder if some of this large square footage will be used to bring a little of the "random-location" magic of Star Tours 2.0 to a fully realized physical dark ride.

What if instead of pretending to build three different treasures on Indy, they had actually built three different routes to start off the ride?

 

[mickEblu]

When one thinks about how some of the vehicles in Mystic Manor split off from one another and go on slightly different paths... I wonder if some of this large square footage will be used to bring a little of the "random-location" magic of Star Tours 2.0 to a fully realized physical dark ride.

What if instead of pretending to build three different treasures on Indy, they had actually built three different routes to start off the ride?

That's really interesting. I was just thinking the opposite. What if they are building identical rides on the 1st and 2nd floor for capacity reasons? Or if not identical, maybe two different ride paths utilizing most of the same sets but just containing different views of those sets.

 

[Curious Constance]

That's really interesting. I was just thinking the opposite. What if they are building identical rides on the 1st and 2nd floor for capacity reasons? Or if not identical, maybe two different ride paths utilizing most of the same sets but just containing different views of those sets.

But don't the AT-ATs take up both floors?

 

[mickEblu]

But don't the AT-ATs take up both floors?

Yeah that's what I meant about the ride paths on different floors sharing sets. So for example on first floor you would be at the AT-ATs feet/ legs level and on the second floor you would be at the level of their heads.

 

[Curious Constance]

Yeah that's what I meant about the ride paths on different floors sharing sets. So for example on first floor you would be at the AT-ATs feet/ legs level and on the second floor you would be at the level of their heads.

It would be kind of crappy to be on the floor by their legs.

 

[mickEblu]

It would be kind of crappy to be on the floor by their legs.

Why?

 

[britain]

I gotta think there's going to some alternate path action here. For a building the size of an old school Epcot attraction, and yet the ride lasts approximately 8 min (verses an old school Epcot ~15 min), what gives? That could mean the vehicles burn through there fast (like Radiator Springs Racers). But these are supposed to be like Mystic Manor vehicles.

So... probably a big chunk of the building is actually elaborate show queue, but alternate paths might explain it too.

 

[Curious Constance]

Why?

Because you'd want to be up by the head where all the action is.

 

[TP2000]

I gotta think there's going to some alternate path action here. For a building the size of an old school Epcot attraction, and yet the ride lasts approximately 8 min (verses an old school Epcot ~15 min), what gives? That could mean the vehicles burn through there fast (like Radiator Springs Racers). But these are supposed to be like Mystic Manor vehicles.

So... probably a big chunk of the building is actually elaborate show queue, but alternate paths might explain it too.

Has someone with knowledge reported that the ride lasts 8 minutes?

 

[BrianLo]

That's really interesting. I was just thinking the opposite. What if they are building identical rides on the 1st and 2nd floor for capacity reasons? Or if not identical, maybe two different ride paths utilizing most of the same sets but just containing different views of those sets.

The capacity on the LPS rides is fairly reasonable (for Disney of today). They don't need to double up on the entire ride profile, the capacity would be obscene, i.e. >3500. Well that would be nice, that's not at all what any insider has hinted at. Expect typical Radiator Springs/Tower of Terror type capacities. Maybe a tad better.

They may double up on certain elements though, if they want cars to spend double the time in a certain show scene they will duplicate it. Or go the Pooh route where two dispatches end up sharing an enlarged scene and arrive staggered from one another.

 

[TP2000]

Because you'd want to be up by the head where all the action is.

I'm not so sure. The official video Disney released when the At-At's were being installed showed a perspective from the ground looking up.


These things would be more intimidating and scary if they are looming above you, rather than meeting them head on as equals.

 

[BrianLo]

I gotta think there's going to some alternate path action here. For a building the size of an old school Epcot attraction, and yet the ride lasts approximately 8 min (verses an old school Epcot ~15 min), what gives? That could mean the vehicles burn through there fast (like Radiator Springs Racers). But these are supposed to be like Mystic Manor vehicles.

So... probably a big chunk of the building is actually elaborate show queue, but alternate paths might explain it too.

PoTC Shanghai runs about 8 minutes too with a similar sized building. The scale just means the ride path isn't so tightly woven in on itself like a fantasyland classic that is really just a very tight maze.

 

[Curious Constance]

I'm not so sure. The official video Disney released when the At-At's were being installed showed a perspective from the ground looking up.


These things would be more intimidating and scary if they are looming above you, rather than meeting them head on as equals.

True, I was thinking of it differently, that seems more reasonable.

 

[mickEblu]

The capacity on the LPS rides is fairly reasonable (for Disney of today). They don't need to double up on the entire ride profile, the capacity would be obscene, i.e. >3500. Well that would be nice, that's not at all what any insider has hinted at. Expect typical Radiator Springs/Tower of Terror type capacities. Maybe a tad better.

They may double up on certain elements though, if they want cars to spend double the time in a certain show scene they will duplicate it. Or go the Pooh route where two dispatches end up sharing an enlarged scene and arrive staggered from one another.

3500 riders an hour would be amazing and would be appreciated more than a few random scenes by the masses. Plus if they did take this approach and double the ride profile, the rides on the 1st and second level could still technically be very different. If Disney doesn't want to control the crowds, than creating rides with this type of capacity would be a step in the right direction.

Don't get me wrong, random ride paths /elements definitely sound sexier than what I'm proposing. But I think operationally we would all appreciate the capacity more in the long run. All the random stuff always sounds better on paper than how it actually ends up being executed. i.e Star Tours 2.0 & GOTG. With that said, I could see how a randomized dark ride of this scale could be a completely different animal.

 

[Disneyland/DCA]

Because you'd want to be up by the head where all the action is.

You're thinking of Cranium Command.

 

[ctrlaltdel]

I'm guessing quite a few of the scenes will be at a scale we haven't seen before. Obviously there will be a quite a few hanger scenes that will be enormous, which will eat up a lot of space. Although I think it's unlikely that will encompass the entire ride. But that is what is so exciting about this attraction, it's obviously one of the biggest things Disney has ever done and we don't much about it at all!

 

[veritas55]

I think the Battle ride will be amazing. I think the separate paths of cars, interweaving with each other a different times, like the end scenes of Pooh or Mystic Manor, could be amazing, especially in the context of shooting lasers and a battle. I would be happy with 2000-2400 PPH capacity. I strongly doubt we can get 3000 PPH capacity, given the likely size of the ride vehicles, even dispatching 3-5 at a time. But we shall see.

 

[BrianLo]

3500 riders an hour would be amazing and would be appreciated more than a few random scenes by the masses. Plus if they did take this approach and double the ride profile, the rides on the 1st and second level could still technically be very different. If Disney doesn't want to control the crowds, than creating rides with this type of capacity would be a step in the right direction.

Don't get me wrong, random ride paths /elements definitely sound sexier than what I'm proposing. But I think operationally we would all appreciate the capacity more in the long run. All the random stuff always sounds better on paper than how it actually ends up being executed. i.e Star Tours 2.0 & GOTG. With that said, I could see how a randomized dark ride of this scale could be a completely different animal.

The ride length would be halved though for the square footage to create two profiles. I don't think there is going to be as much random side scenes that would be equivalent to two separate ride profiles. So in that hypothetical I think guests will appreciate the longer ride time more.

It also appears they are going with larger vehicles than previous LPS, there are four guests in the front row on the video mock ups. Mystic Manor, Rat and Pooh are all 3x3. The first dispatches four vehicles per cycle, the second three per cycle but actually has two separate load platforms to keep dispatch times tighter. If this ride adopts either style with the larger vehicles the capacity will be an additional 30% or so.

 

[Phroobar]

What if the ride vehicles could go anywhere they wanted in the building? It would be completely random as long as they hit certain areas. After eight minutes, they go to the final scene sequence and let you out.

 

[britain]

Has someone with knowledge reported that the ride lasts 8 minutes?

I'm getting that approximation from @marni1971. He said there's a give or take on that depending on how long some of the sequences in front of screens work out to be.