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LuvWDW2

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Try MONTHS.

I’m not entirely sure I agree. This is a unique situation since both coasts have this and one coast is opening much earlier.

Don’t get me wrong, they will both be insanely busy and the ride lines will be hours. But I’m not sure that there will be hours long lines just to see SWL (not counting ride & food lines) for weeks.
 

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
Premium Member
I’m not entirely sure I agree. This is a unique situation since both coasts have this and one coast is opening much earlier.

Don’t get me wrong, they will both be insanely busy and the ride lines will be hours. But I’m not sure that there will be hours long lines just to see SWL (not counting ride & food lines) for weeks.

I agree, I also think that the phased openings will allow them to get two large bumps in attendance instead of just one. The first week will most likely mean lines just to enter SWGE, but after that it will return to "normal". Then when ROTR opens, expect the same.

Anecdotally, I think the fact that they are doing a phased openings is a major turnoff to non-local fans excited about going. For many taking a trip to WDW is a once every couple of years thing. I know if I were in this boat, I wouldn't want to take a trip knowing I'm missing out on the the flagship ride.
 

rle4lunch

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I think the day is coming when you will need advanced reservations at Disneyland just to access the park. Especially at certain times of the year.

I could see that. Just as long as they keep selling military salute tickets so we don't have to buy AP's, I'm all good.
 

PorterRedkey

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You are so focused on the “opening”... and what you are missing is Disney doesn’t need to focus purely on the immediate opening. This is an asset that they will be promoting as new for years. New for these shows like theview etc are simply when Disney dictates it’s “new”. When they promote it is when they want to drive new interest... not just when it actually opens.
They can do spring break at “the new swge...” and not miss a beat. They don’t have to be there opening week, etc.
I can see that happening.
Does it hurt the “Big Bang” opening and reveal? Of course... but in this day and age of tours, bts, social media, construction following, etc... that big reveal is no where near what it used to be 20+ years ago.
True.

Remember all the content like launch bay, the parades, etc Disney has done over the last few years?
I have seen all the movies many, many times, but I am not a superfan. SW Weekends were great for the super fans! Personally, I thought the other temporary additions like Launch Bay (movie, MnG's and a store) and the show where the characters announced and then stand on stage together, were kind of sad. Jawa's in Launch Bay and the new StarTours addition were the best!
I believe that Disney is doing this to make some money with a half ready product opening at reduced capacity. Period. They are losing out on people waiting to book trips for when the land opens. Getting part of the land open will help with this. I get it. Disney is a business. Get it open quick. I am glad it looks like all the shops will be open.

I @PorterRedkey personally believe people will be turned away from the land with BOTH rides open. If daily capacity is reduced by 10-20,000 a day with only one ride opening, IMHO more people will be turned away because of this.

They should just call it a preview, but that wouldn't bring in as many guests.

Is the part they are opening going to be great? Hell yeah! This will be an amazing theme park achievement! However, it seems we share the same concern.
As for capacity... I am far more concerned that everything is overwhelmed making it a bad experience for guests. Things running out of stock, waits longer than what is practical, lack of anywhere to sit or find shelter, etc.

Whether it's the lack of shade and air conditioning in TSL, the reduced hour of the theme parks, the up-charge everything, reduced staffing levels on attractions leading to increased wait times, cupcake anniversaries, the replacement of attractions instead of refurbing the old and building new ones, etc..., I am constantly seeing examples of the "guest experience" being sacrificed for the sake of profit.

I still love Disney. I love walking the parks, riding the rides and seeing the shows. What Disney does right is wonderful! And it's a lot! I just wish they would live up to the standards that they originally set for themselves instead of constantly lowering them to meet the BoD's and shareholder's expectations.

I am glad if you feel diferently! I wish I did.
 
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flynnibus

Premium Member
I’m not entirely sure I agree. This is a unique situation since both coasts have this and one coast is opening much earlier.

Don’t get me wrong, they will both be insanely busy and the ride lines will be hours. But I’m not sure that there will be hours long lines just to see SWL (not counting ride & food lines) for weeks.

California fans didn't flock to WDW for Pandora... and DL having SWGE isn't going to radically shift how people visit WDW. This will be the hottest ticket in town for a long long long time.

Frozen...
Flight of Passage...
etc

All held multi-hour lines all day, every day for many months.

Your question was if the backup was going to clear in days... I'll wager the 'peak crowd' stuff we see at openings will go for weeks. And multi-hour waits for months.
 

Snapper Bean

Active Member
I guess I'm a cynic but the staggered opening seems like its meant to just create two separate spikes in attendance not to control crowds into a safer/more pleasant experience.
 

LuvWDW2

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Your question was if the backup was going to clear in days... I'll wager the 'peak crowd' stuff we see at openings will go for weeks. And multi-hour waits for months.

No, my actual question is how long did people stand in line just to enter a portion of a park.

ETA: not how long each day but for how many days did this phenomenon occur.
 

rle4lunch

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But are people still waiting hours to get into Carsland? No. THATS my point right now. Not ride wait times.

no but they're still running to the land and on a moderate crowd day it's still hard to navigate in there. maybe, just maybe the bigger swath of land that GE has will grant better flow. let's hope.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I still love Disney. I love walking the parks, riding the rides and seeing the shows. What Disney does right is wonderful! And it's a lot! I just wish they would live up to the standards that they originally set for themselves instead of constantly lowering them to meet the BoD's and shareholder's expectations.

I agree - and I gave examples before how that mindset and delaying opening actually can go together as well. I just don't find opening part of the land earlier as a slap in anyone's face. It's not like Disney gave a date, and then pulled a switcher-roo on people on what that date would offer.

If the early opening is driven by the need to boost numbers and not guest driven... I'm ok with that as long as the guests aren't suffering for it. And since Disney is 'giving' more here than what they promised anyone... I don't see it as a problem.

Disney did not overpromise and under deliver
 

seascape

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I believe that Disney is doing this to make some money with a half ready product opening at reduced capacity. Period. They are losing out on people waiting to book trips for when the land opens. Getting part of the land open will help with this. I get it. Disney is a business. Get it open quick. I am glad it looks like all the shops will be open.

I @PorterRedkey personally believe people will be turned away from the land with BOTH rides open. If daily capacity is reduced by 10-20,000 a day with only one ride opening, IMHO more people will be turned away because of this.

They should just call it a preview, but that wouldn't bring in as many guests.

Is the part they are opening going to be great? Hell yeah! This will be an amazing theme park achievement! However, it seems we share the same concern.


Whether it's the lack of shade and air conditioning in TSL, the reduced hour of the theme parks, the up-charge everything, reduced staffing levels on attractions leading to increased wait times, cupcake anniversaries, the replacement of attractions instead of refurbing the old and building new ones, etc..., I am constantly seeing examples of the "guest experience" being sacrificed for the sake of profit.

I still love Disney. I love walking the parks, riding the rides and seeing the shows. What Disney does right is wonderful! And it's a lot! I just wish they would live up to the standards that they originally set for themselves instead of constantly lowering them to meet the BoD's and shareholder's expectations.

I am glad if you feel diferently! I wish I did.
If people don't like Disney opening SWGE with one ride, two amazing shopping experiences and wonderful food and beverages, don't go until the second ride is open. For those like me that would have avoided SWGE if it was completely open in September and had a planned trip already scheduled. Now we will find it crowded but not as insanely crowded as we feared and so will go and enjoy it. I will be back in late November and January to see the rest. I love how Disney is handling this bnb both as a customer and as a stockholder.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
No, my actual question is how long did people stand in line just to enter a portion of a park.

ETA: not how long each day but for how many days did this phenomenon occur.

Go back and look at the ToyStory land openings. People would wait long before park opening even when the park was opening early JUST for TSL. That phenomen went on for weeks.
 

PorterRedkey

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I agree - and I gave examples before how that mindset and delaying opening actually can go together as well. I just don't find opening part of the land earlier as a slap in anyone's face. It's not like Disney gave a date, and then pulled a switcher-roo on people on what that date would offer.

If the early opening is driven by the need to boost numbers and not guest driven... I'm ok with that as long as the guests aren't suffering for it. And since Disney is 'giving' more here than what they promised anyone... I don't see it as a problem.

Disney did not overpromise and under deliver
I never said they did.

I'll wait and see if guests are suffering in June or July. I give them a little time to work the kinks out like they would have to do with any land before I judge. I hope it all works out for the guests who try to visit!!!
 

PorterRedkey

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If people don't like Disney opening SWGE with one ride, two amazing shopping experiences and wonderful food and beverages, don't go until the second ride is open. For those like me that would have avoided SWGE if it was completely open in September and had a planned trip already scheduled. Now we will find it crowded but not as insanely crowded as we feared and so will go and enjoy it. I will be back in late November and January to see the rest. I love how Disney is handling this bnb both as a customer and as a stockholder.
I don't know why people think the land will be LESS busy when opening at less than full capacity. It will not be less busy it will be BUSIER! Fewer people will fit in the land with only 1 ride open. Fewer people being allowed in = harder to get into the land! So more people will not even get into the land, let alone ride the single attraction.

When the 2nd ride opens and the land is at full capacity more people will physically be able to be in the land, so that will increase your chance of getting into Galaxy's Edge at all. Although, I believe people will still be turned away from entering the land even with 2 rides and all the shops and pay-to-experience things (buying sabers and droids) open.
 
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LuvWDW2

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Go back and look at the ToyStory land openings. People would wait long before park opening even when the park was opening early JUST for TSL. That phenomen went on for weeks.

But the only day people waited in a line just to see the land was opening day. After that it was just waiting in line to ride something (or meet someone)
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
But the only day people waited in a line just to see the land was opening day. After that it was just waiting in line to ride something (or meet someone)

The land is huge... we don't know yet if Disney will have to control access to the land.. no one knows because there has never been anything quite to this level.. especially at WDW. Disney has tipped they don't think they will have to at DHS... but we'll see.
 

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