_caleb
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News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021
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_caleb
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Of all the nerve!
Sirwalterraleigh
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Right? I mean what do people want for a $105 ticket (at that time) for their 4 year old?
Demanding, spoiled b@st@rds…the lot of us. That’s all we are…
We don’t understand how hard Bob had to work doing investor speeches when he got those 4 “golly, gee, shucks” contract extensions…because there wasn’t a successor anywhere prepped.
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_caleb
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Ooof. I must have missed that one! But a quick google turned up this gem. I’m just thankful they translated the latin for us!Carpe PM
- pleasure island marketing campaign circa 2000
Sirwalterraleigh
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That’s what I called a “target rich environment”, goose
Before this started, people were predicting it would fail. And yet, it's still going.
When people saw that dates months ahead weren't 'filled', they said it's failing. And yet, those dates filled up and it's still going.
When people saw that dates months ahead weren't 'filled', and, starting in October, weren't filling up, they said it was failing. And yet, it's still going.
When people now see a dozen cruises canceled for the summer, they're saying it's failing. And yet, it's still going and still taking reservations for months ahead of time.
Eventually, they may be right. But their history is being failures themselves at gauging how this is going.
When people saw that dates months ahead weren't 'filled', they said it's failing. And yet, those dates filled up and it's still going.
When people saw that dates months ahead weren't 'filled', and, starting in October, weren't filling up, they said it was failing. And yet, it's still going.
When people now see a dozen cruises canceled for the summer, they're saying it's failing. And yet, it's still going and still taking reservations for months ahead of time.
Eventually, they may be right. But their history is being failures themselves at gauging how this is going.
Disstevefan1
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Ah the good old days. I liked 8 Tracks the best.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Jesus…what kinda of a sickness shills for a soulless, rapacious conglomerate that roy warned about?
Seek help…or buy some common sense with your dvc points
Seek help…or buy some common sense with your dvc points
TP2000
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No, it's clearly obvious what it is as that clip plays out for several minutes, regardless how the dance will be used in the lounge later.
It's not luxury. It's not Star Wars. And it's a failed attempt at being "immersive" for both of those concepts.
I get it, for the fans/cheerleaders of Galactic Starcruiser this kind of stuff is embarrassing to have shown publicly. But this is a big reason why the concept is struggling as a high priced concept that fails miserably at "luxury" and is questionable at "Star Wars".
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The 'cringe play' is getting old.
It didn't sink the opening of the Starcruiser before it opened and it's doing nothing now.
Joel
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How many of these human "failures" predicted it would get shut down in less than a year? I'm guessing almost none of them, because that was obviously never going to happen. This is like mocking people for calling Enchantment and Harmonious failures the day before the D23 announcement because they're both still on the schedule. Checkmate, atheists!
TP2000
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This isn't a snack bar in a mall food court.
It's a custom built hotel that cost a few hundred million to design and engineer and launch, with a much higher overhead than your average Deluxe property to maintain and keep going.
It was never going to be closed within the first fiscal year. Perhaps even two. There's too much money already spent on it, and there are still at least some folks still making reservations and paying the money for it obviously.
But the weakness of the concept is clear, and now the bookings are falling off. And now the closures are happening for days at a time right in the middle of summer. This is not what success looks like....
This what the two to three year long road to eventual closure looks like.
The most optimistic scenario right now is that they close it next fiscal year and retool it, plus it up greatly, invest more money into CM's and amenities, and then relaunch it months later as a luxury Star Wars concept that is actually successful and worthy of the high price points.
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Plenty of students take a class and go through the motions to try and still get a 59 percent at the end of the course.
They were still going, but failed.
Not everyone, nor majority are saying it is stopping on the dime, but it is certainly not thriving, and it is certainly not as successful as it was. They are calling to tell people they are canceling their stays to not lose money. It is fair to say that is failing, whether someone claims they knew or not.
TP2000
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Looking at the hard facts and reality of cancelled cruises for summer, it's certainly not helping!
This tacky All Star poolside dance lesson is never what was going to sink the concept, or cancel bookings. But it's one element of many that shows clearly how this concept has been failed by multiple levels of leadership and management. It's merely a small part of why the concept is now struggling so badly.
It's simply a perfect example of what went wrong along the way with the execution and operation of Galactic Starcruiser.
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TP2000
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No kidding. They spent hundreds of millions on this project from start to finish. It's going to take more than one year of weak bookings and cancelled cruises to close it.
Even Luigi's Flying Tires lasted three years, and that thing was a turkey right from the start. They added beach balls to the ride to try and save it, but then the beach balls were being used as weapons by other riders so they pulled them. And the ride still had to run for over two more years just being a dumb failure.
Maybe they could try adding beach balls to the Galactic Starcruiser?!?
Sirwalterraleigh
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Nobody said it was gonna close in a month…standard, excuse making crap.
Anything that can’t be sold at wdw in under a year is a disaster.
When DAKL opened and they couldn’t book it…which also happened to be the dead slow 2001 and 2002 years…they slashed the rates and pushed it hard.
That was a disaster…and they didn’t close it in chunks and claim they were steam cleaning the Carpet.
800 rooms.
I hope the defenders are getting paid by Disney…If not you’re just trolling as hard as any anti-troll.
SpectroMagician
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It's mainly that no one cares about the Disney Star Wars trilogy. No one cares about the terribly written trash stories. No one cares about the characters. Kathleen Kennedy has truly lost Disney billions of opportunity cost because of the terrible movies.
Tha Realest
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except by all accounts this looks to be a failure, which was completely foreseeable.
They haven’t “cancelled” my favorite sitcom. They’re still showing episodes! Except instead of Thursday prime time it’s Saturday night.
Cue the band…
TP2000
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I know you're joking about the defenders of Galactic Starcruiser getting paid, but I'm never a believer of conspiracy theories. I honestly can't believe anyone on this chat board is being paid by anyone to be here and chat. To think otherwise requires a year-round supply of tin foil hats.
Almost always with messes like this, it's just people with bad instincts doing stuff poorly, and due to their bad instincts they only have the ability to plan and look out into the future about 30 days in advance via a PowerPoint slide that tells them so.
Sometimes the stuff people do is great because the people in charge are inherently talented and brilliant with their finger instinctively on the pulse of the cultural zeitgeist, they know instinctively what the public wants without a PowerPoint slide to tell them and they have the work ethic and passion to deliver it! (Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, Walt Disney, Charles & Ray Eames, Julia Child, Berry Gordy, William Boeing, Elon Musk, John Nordstrom, whoever invented Netflix, etc.)
And then sometimes the stuff people do is mostly crap because they don't know instinctively what the public wants, even if they are backed by a big corporate budget to do it (Kathleen Kennedy, Bob Chapek, whoever was in charge of CNN+, whoever was in charge of New Coke, whoever was in charge of Blockbuster when Netflix came along, whoever invented Captain Keevan, etc.)
All that said, the defenders of the Galactic Starcruiser make me scratch my head and think "Just how low are their standards exactly? How are they so blind to the important missing details here that they can't see this is a messy mess? How low can they go???"
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