MagicHappens1971
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Yes. A cruise with 100 rooms sold could be 200 people, could be upwards of 350 people. It just depends
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News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021
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TP2000
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That's a question as old as time. And it's valid. And yet...
I just went and tried to book a room at the Grand Floridian for tomorrow night. It's fully booked.
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I'd imagine if I went and tried at the Poly or the Contemporary, the results would be the same. The parks are packed after all and it's the weekend before Thanksgiving when most schools in the USA are off for the week.
But the 100 room Galactic Starcruiser still has open availability this weekend. That can't be what they were planning for the first holiday season of its operation.
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MagicHappens1971
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Not arguing towards availability and what not as I have no idea, however one thing to note is there are “no holidays in space” so the Starcruiser won’t be celebrating anything
Life Day would like a word with you!
Vegas Disney Fan
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Depends on their expected occupancy. If the reports of 25% are accurate they’re probably in full panic mode, if they’re at 95% they’re probably doing exactly what they hoped. They likely expect a cabin or two available every trip as proof they are correctly priced and maximizing return.That's a question as old as time. And it's valid. And yet...
I just went and tried to book a room at the Grand Floridian for tomorrow night. It's fully booked.
Fromparking lotgarden view twin rooms to lagoon view 3 bedroom villas, there is no availability tomorrow or this weekend at the Grand Floridian. Even when I try and toggle to book a package including theme park tickets, the 867 room Grand Floridian is fully booked this week.
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I'd imagine if I went and tried at the Poly or the Contemporary, the results would be the same. The parks are packed, after all and it's the weekend before Thanksgiving when most schools in the USA are off for the week.
But the 100 room Galactic Starcruiser still has open availability all week. That can't be what they were planning for the first holiday season of its operation.
Room Rates at Disney's Grand Floridian Resort & Spa | Walt Disney World Resort
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They probably view a sold out GF as proof they underpriced the weekend and can charge more next year.
TP2000
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I just went and looked at the entire property for this weekend, with a check-in starting tomorrow and checking out on Sunday (to clear out for the Thanksgiving crowds). There are only six Disney hotels on property that still have rooms available this weekend. They are, in no particular order;
Coronado Springs Resort - $412 per night
Caribbean Beach Resort - $357 per night
Port Orleans Resort - $299 per night
Animal Kingdom Lodge - $496 per night
Cooper Creek Villas - $2,706 per night (only a hot tub King Cabin is left)
And the Galactic Starcruiser.
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Coronado Springs Resort - $412 per night
Caribbean Beach Resort - $357 per night
Port Orleans Resort - $299 per night
Animal Kingdom Lodge - $496 per night
Cooper Creek Villas - $2,706 per night (only a hot tub King Cabin is left)
And the Galactic Starcruiser.
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_caleb
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That's a question as old as time. And it's valid. And yet...
I just went and tried to book a room at the Grand Floridian for tomorrow night. It's fully booked.
Fromparking lotgarden view twin rooms to lagoon view 3 bedroom villas, there is no availability tomorrow or this weekend at the Grand Floridian. Even when I try and toggle to book a package including theme park tickets, the 867 room Grand Floridian is fully booked this week.
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I'd imagine if I went and tried at the Poly or the Contemporary, the results would be the same. The parks are packed after all and it's the weekend before Thanksgiving when most schools in the USA are off for the week.
But the 100 room Galactic Starcruiser still has open availability this weekend. That can't be what they were planning for the first holiday season of its operation.
Room Rates at Disney's Grand Floridian Resort & Spa | Walt Disney World Resort
See rates for Disney’s Grand Floridian Resort & Spa. Room types include Standard, Deluxe and Club-Level rooms and suites.
But resort rooms use flexible pricing and dump blocks of rooms to Travelocity, Expedia, Booking.com, etc. Maybe not the best comparison.
MagicHappens1971
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Not disagreeing, just saying that the Starcruiser will be doing little if any to acknowledge the “Holiday Season”Life Day would like a word with you!
TP2000
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Okay, I just went and tried Expedia for the same dates this weekend, same 1 room request anywhere on Disney World property. According to Expedia, every single Disney property is booked and unavailable. Even though Disney itself still has a few rooms at those 5 properties I mentioned above.
Expedia is worse than Disney's own site for availability this weekend, and looking into next month.
_caleb
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I just got this on Travelocity:
A steal at $870 for a single night!
But my point is that resort rooms don't have set prices and manage availability by selling/listing them to discount booking sites. Does Disney do this with the Starcruiser?
Patcheslee
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If they are truly cutting to 1 dinner service then 50% or less would make sense.
That looks like around the crowd size you'd want for the big events. Nobody is mashed into each other or crowding over the folks who have found seats, it's possible to find a sightline to whatever's going on.
However, having looked at the setup, I definitely think it would be more fun to go now that it's "failing" if the cast members are willing to put the time in. You are going to get your very own little story! (Until the cast members inevitably go insane from you nattering at them all the time.)
GimpYancIent
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B.C. and cronies may well be thinking the experience is not exclusive enough so less cruises per month and raise the price!
mightynine
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So, where's this site getting this from?
www.mousetrapnews.com
BREAKING: Disney Star Wars Starcruiser Hotel Closing Permanently
Disney will be permanently closing the Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser hotel due to lack of demand and interest in early 2023
www.mousetrapnews.com
Have you read their other articles?...So, where's this site getting this from?
BREAKING: Disney Star Wars Starcruiser Hotel Closing Permanently
Disney will be permanently closing the Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser hotel due to lack of demand and interest in early 2023
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mightynine
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...wait, the Olivia Roderigo retheme is still on, right?Have you read their other articles?...
Rock ‘n’ Roller Coaster Starring Olivia Rodrigo
Rock 'n' Roller Coaster will be replaced with Olivia Rodrigo retheme at Hollywood Studios to replace the current band, Aerosmith
Saw it pop up somewhere else, so no, I haven't visited that site before. Still figured it was horsey poop.
Wendy Pleakley
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A lot of speculation on the Starcruiser losing money if it doesn't hit a certain capacity, but is this based on anything concrete? Does anyone actually know what the running costs are?
I find it hard to believe that dipping below 100% capacity is unsustainable, and seems to be coming from a desire to see it fail, as opposed to what is actually happening.
I find it hard to believe that dipping below 100% capacity is unsustainable, and seems to be coming from a desire to see it fail, as opposed to what is actually happening.
Vegas Disney Fan
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With set cruise dates they could also eliminate a cruise a week to consolidate demand, there’s a lot of things they could do before resorting to closing the whole hotel.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Well that is basic business sense. Things have operating costs... nothing runs for free, especially when it includes hospitality and entertainment.
But the notion that anything less than 100% is now critical is not basic business sense, and actually runs counter to it. So this is a classic sense of people taking a slice of truth and getting hyperbolic with it to jump to some biased conclusion.
They would know running 100% occupancy isn't a sustainable thing, even with unmet demand... so execs would know that approving a business plan that only made money at 100% is a fantasy.. and no regular exec would buy into that.
Unless they also know that running at a loss would be the norm, and is to be expected. And that not only runs opposed to most Disney pricing of late.. it would REALLY not make sense for a product intentionally priced as an exclusive. So this notion too has basically a zero probability.
So none of that makes any sense and anyone pushing that is just blowing smoke.
What is their real break-even point... that would be real insider information. We don't even know really how much staff they have. But any practical business plan would have an expected occupancy rate that is not only a forecast, but one that is believed to be achievable... and they'd setup a pricing structure that was inclusive of their cost and forecast needs.
I mean.. this isn't some guy that just woke up and said "I'm gonna start a hotel today!" - They have professionals managing this.. and even if they sucked, they would have financial analysts telling them they are crazy.. long before the thing opened.