News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

[Incomudro]

I'm going to give you a hypothetical family:
My Brother in Law.
He and his wife make a lot of money - and he fancies himself as a bigshot.
He is a Star Wars fan since childhood and has twins around 12 years old - a boy and a girl.
The son is a big Star Wars fan.
The daughter is not.
The wife is not - she doesn't even like WDW much (she prefers Atlantis)
They visit WDW & Atlantis every year.
When this hotel opens, my brother in law will definitely attempt to be the first to go.
He will likely bring my Mother and Father in law, or go with his in laws.
All of these people will have levels of interest in this hotel, with only two of them being really into it.
Yet, they all will go.

 

[larryz]

Massively popular franchise. Vacation destination originally intended to cater to a broad swathe of the middle class. Very bad match of concept to context.

Really?

Is Victoria and Albert's a "bad match of concept to context"?

You can spin it any way you like, doesn't change the fact that it's also a hotel at one of the worlds most popular tourist destinations and there are going to be people who don't want to be locked out of that for two days.

Have you ever eaten at V&A's?

My worry is how many clueless guests* is it going to take complaining that the resort isn't what they expected because they didn't bother to do any research and booked simply because its the popular thing to do before Disney waters down the experience to the point that it becomes just another resort.

Sad but true. *(pejorative word substituted)

They probably will say that during this Star Wars immersive experience guests may encounter loud noises, bright flashing lights that may upset some people. That'll keep out the little ones and the disinterested ones.

Don't forget "SCARY ALIENS"... that worked so well the first time... /sarc off

I'm going to give you a hypothetical family:
My Brother in Law.
He and his wife make a lot of money - and he fancies himself as a bigshot.
He is a Star Wars fan since childhood and has twins around 12 years old - a boy and a girl.
The son is a big Star Wars fan.
The daughter is not.
The wife is not - she doesn't even like WDW much (she prefers Atlantis)
They visit WDW & Atlantis every year.
When this hotel opens, my brother in law will definitely attempt to be the first to go.
He will likely bring my Mother and Father in law, or go with his in laws.
All of these people will have levels of interest in this hotel, with only two of them being really into it.
Yet, they all will go.

To paraphrase Aesop: "A Disney fanatic and his money are soon parted."

 

[flynnibus]

I'm going to give you a hypothetical family:
My Brother in Law.
He and his wife make a lot of money - and he fancies himself as a bigshot.
He is a Star Wars fan since childhood and has twins around 12 years old - a boy and a girl.
The son is a big Star Wars fan.
The daughter is not.
The wife is not - she doesn't even like WDW much (she prefers Atlantis)
They visit WDW & Atlantis every year.
When this hotel opens, my brother in law will definitely attempt to be the first to go.
He will likely bring my Mother and Father in law, or go with his in laws.
All of these people will have levels of interest in this hotel, with only two of them being really into it.
Yet, they all will go.

Then Mr Big shot can book the Polynesian for his family to enjoy the parks while he and his son go for a 2 day adventure at Hubble... then they can rejoin the rest of the family afterwards.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Yes, but families with the means to afford this, aren't going to be any more all hands on board into Star Wars than any other segment of the population.

Irrelevant. Or, more accurately, relevant but incomplete. There are three necessary conditions to stay at this resort.

1. Means to afford it.
2. Desire to experience it.
3. Willingness to pay for it.

No, a rich family isn't more likely to be hardcore Star Wars than a middle class family, but a rich family that's not into Star Wars isn't going to stay there. The only people who are going to stay are there are the people with the means and the interest level.

I'm going to give you a hypothetical family:
My Brother in Law.
He and his wife make a lot of money - and he fancies himself as a bigshot.
He is a Star Wars fan since childhood and has twins around 12 years old - a boy and a girl.
The son is a big Star Wars fan.
The daughter is not.
The wife is not - she doesn't even like WDW much (she prefers Atlantis)
They visit WDW & Atlantis every year.
When this hotel opens, my brother in law will definitely attempt to be the first to go.
He will likely bring my Mother and Father in law, or go with his in laws.
All of these people will have levels of interest in this hotel, with only two of them being really into it.
Yet, they all will go.

If they actually all will go, they've got more money than sense. Wife and daughter will be wasting thousands of dollars on something they won't enjoy. Just because wealthy people can afford to waste money on things they don't enjoy, doesn't mean they actually do.

My worry is how many asshats is it going to take complaining that the resort isn't what they expected because they didn't bother to do any research and booked simply because its the popular thing to do before Disney waters down the experience to the point that it becomes just another resort.

It's going to be so expensive that I think the number of people who don't know what they're getting into are going to be filtered out pretty quickly.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Uninterested Mom will be fine when she finds out that the Space Spa has Midaclorian Mimosas and Space Port Sangria.

 

[MrHappy]

I don't think this resort is going to be nearly as immersive as a lot of us think it's going to be.

I think the total opposite. Disney can't create something half way with this. I think it's going to be treated as a cruise ship (or space ship in this instance). There will be set check in and check out days that your ship embarks on. Then there will be scheduled (not mandatory) meals, entertainment, events, etc. Evan like a cruise ship, you can only leave when you reach a "port". Wanna see Wishes...to bad, you're in space tonight. This will all need to be made very clear upon booking and Disney will probably need a triple opt-in or something to make sure guests know what they're signing up for. If this thing ain't for you, then don't stay here.

 

[Pixieish]

Irrelevant. Or, more accurately, relevant but incomplete. There are three necessary conditions to stay at this resort.

1. Means to afford it.
2. Desire to experience it.
3. Willingness to pay for it.

No, a rich family isn't more likely to be hardcore Star Wars than a middle class family, but a rich family that's not into Star Wars isn't going to stay there. The only people who are going to stay are there are the people with the means and the interest level.


If they actually all will go, they've got more money than sense. Wife and daughter will be wasting thousands of dollars on something they won't enjoy. Just because wealthy people can afford to waste money on things they don't enjoy, doesn't mean they actually do.


It's going to be so expensive that I think the number of people who don't know what they're getting into are going to be filtered out pretty quickly.

You have far more faith in people than I do. In general, people are 1) very stupid, and 2) will do things just so they can say they did it.

 

[Incomudro]

Irrelevant. Or, more accurately, relevant but incomplete. There are three necessary conditions to stay at this resort.

1. Means to afford it.
2. Desire to experience it.
3. Willingness to pay for it.

No, a rich family isn't more likely to be hardcore Star Wars than a middle class family, but a rich family that's not into Star Wars isn't going to stay there. The only people who are going to stay are there are the people with the means and the interest level.


If they actually all will go, they've got more money than sense. Wife and daughter will be wasting thousands of dollars on something they won't enjoy. Just because wealthy people can afford to waste money on things they don't enjoy, doesn't mean they actually do.


It's going to be so expensive that I think the number of people who don't know what they're getting into are going to be filtered out pretty quickly.

But two of them are really into Star Wars.
If you don't think that my Brother in law's family is going to represent many families that will book this hotel - I believe you are mistaken.
When you have the kind of disposable income these people have "more money than brains" is irrelevant.
The money doesn't mean the same to them as it means to most other people.
People like this can quite readily book a vacation like this, and those that are really into it will go full tilt and those that aren't - won't.
Wife and daughter will likely head over to Disney Springs.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

If you don't think that my Brother in law's family is going to represent many families that will book this hotel - I believe you are mistaken.
When you have the kind of disposable income these people have "more money than brains" is irrelevant.
The money doesn't mean the same to them as it means to most other people.
People like this can quite readily book a vacation like this, and those that are really into it will go full tilt and those that aren't - won't.
Wife and daughter will likely head over to Disney Springs.

That behavior is incoherent. Even if they were as rich as Bill Gates, why would wife and daughter go to an immersive Star Wars experience at all if they don't like Star Wars?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I don't think this resort is going to be nearly as immersive as a lot of us think it's going to be.

"It’s unlike anything that exists today. It is 100 percent immersive, and the story will touch every single minute of your day, and it will culminate in a unique journey for every person who visits."

 

[raymusiccity]

The simplest solve to maintain full immersion for those wanting to participate but not trap grandma or the unwilling 8-year-old in a room for two days is to offer an in-story way out of the resort. I've said it before, it's as simple as themed "shuttles" that take you back to Earth from the space cruiser.

The absolute reality is that people are going to need to leave the resort anyways. Even if you want 100% immersion, what happens if you unexpectedly need to pick up some medication from an outside pharmacy during the experience?

I think the opportunity for a very high level of immersion will be there, but it's also going to be elective and you're going to be able to leave without breaking the immersion.

You might as well give up on any semblance of 'immersion', every time a flag waving rental scooter honks for you to get out of the way! (We haven't even scratched the surface yet regarding 'service animals'.)

 

[bclane]

You have far more faith in people than I do. In general, people are 1) very stupid, and 2) will do things just so they can say they did it.

I agree with you. I have some very wealthy friends with no interest in Star Wars who I can pretty much guarantee will stay there just because they will hear that it is the newest and most exclusive location at Disney. It frustrates me because people like me who live and breath Star Wars but can’t easily afford it will practically have to sell a kidney to go while others will go just to brag about it and probably won’t even participate in 90% of what’s going on.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I agree with you. I have some very wealthy friends with no interest in Star Wars who I can pretty much guarantee will stay there just because they will hear that it is the newest and most exclusive location at Disney. It frustrates me because people like me who live and breath Star Wars but can’t easily afford it will practically have to sell a kidney to go while others will go just to brag about it and probably won’t even participate in 90% of what’s going on.

You need some new friends, mate.

 

[Incomudro]

"It’s unlike anything that exists today. It is 100 percent immersive, and the story will touch every single minute of your day, and it will culminate in a unique journey for every person who visits."

You realize that's still a broad statement?
Merely staying in the hotel affords you 100% immersment with a story that will touch you every single minute of every single day, culminating a unique journey for every person who visits.

 

[Incomudro]

I agree with you. I have some very wealthy friends with no interest in Star Wars who I can pretty much guarantee will stay there just because they will hear that it is the newest and most exclusive location at Disney. It frustrates me because people like me who live and breath Star Wars but can’t easily afford it will practically have to sell a kidney to go while others will go just to brag about it and probably won’t even participate in 90% of what’s going on.

Certainly.
Disney can't police a family's level of Star Wars fandom.
How many families - especially when you extend them - have family members that all enjoy Star Wars to the zenith?
Now factor in families that can afford this.
There's going to be a range within any family unit.

 

[ppete1975]

I think the total opposite. Disney can't create something half way with this. I think it's going to be treated as a cruise ship (or space ship in this instance). There will be set check in and check out days that your ship embarks on. Then there will be scheduled (not mandatory) meals, entertainment, events, etc. Evan like a cruise ship, you can only leave when you reach a "port". Wanna see Wishes...to bad, you're in space tonight. This will all need to be made very clear upon booking and Disney will probably need a triple opt-in or something to make sure guests know what they're signing up for. If this thing ain't for you, then don't stay here.

totally agree on them treating it like a cruise ship (ive been thinking the same thing, basically everything you want/need will be there), I disagree that you will be able to leave at any time. Now there might be shuttles that only leave at certain times, but there will be an exit to the parking lot/buses.
If that's what you meant and I'm taking it too literally, then I apologize.

 

[bclane]

Certainly.
Disney can't police a family's level of Star Wars fandom.
How many families - especially when you extend them - have family members that all enjoy Star Wars to the zenith?
Now factor in families that can afford this.
There's going to be a range within any family unit.

That’s how I see it too. I think it will be a bit of a waste for some of the guests who will be checking in since they won’t get as much out of it as others will but I don’t think that will stop them. Unfortunately, I fear that this will also negatively impact the experience of the more serious fans. But that’s life.

 

[Texas84]

Can't. Then one group breaks the immersion of the other group. Its either all or nothing.

Sure you can. Different dates. All on these days, nothing on these dates.

 

[flynnibus]

But two of them are really into Star Wars.
If you don't think that my Brother in law's family is going to represent many families that will book this hotel - I believe you are mistaken.
When you have the kind of disposable income these people have "more money than brains" is irrelevant.
The money doesn't mean the same to them as it means to most other people.
People like this can quite readily book a vacation like this, and those that are really into it will go full tilt and those that aren't - won't.
Wife and daughter will likely head over to Disney Springs.

So you are creating a conflict situation yourself, and instead of accepting they will come to a solution... act like there is some eternal conflict that can't be resolved.

If they are dead set on doing things together... and half of them are not going to participate... then either
1) The other half won't get to go and they skip the whole thing
or
2) The non-participating half will just suck it up and go.. and everyone does it.
or
3) They will accept to split up

If they split up... they are so rich they can afford to book two different things at the same time.

#3 is a conflict for so many because of money.. yet you say money is no issue. So problem solved. If they refuse to split up, then someone is going to have to suck it up one way or another. Or pay to go.. and not participate or leave. Again, if they chose to waste money like that... that's on them.

 

[Kamikaze]

Sure you can. Different dates. All on these days, nothing on these dates.

Are they charging the same room rate for the 'nothing' dates?