Mike S
Well-Known Member
I’m not going to waste my time but if these videos contain secret details that make the movie better by watching them then those details should’ve been in the actual movie. I’m sorry, it’s a mess.
I’m sorry, it’s a mess.
Stand by for the ad hominem attacks.This thread.....
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This is why I don’t talk about Star Wars online anymore. These arguments go on forever and never change anyone’s minds. They are the most useless kind of discussion. I’m just gonna drop this link:
This review pretty much sums up my feelings on the film. It wasn’t perfect, but it was fun. Once again, the middle ground is drowned out by all the screaming. *sigh* I wonder about this fan base sometimes. It probably is for the best if we just move on from the Skywalker Saga at this point. I think it’s time for Star Wars to “start over”.‘Star Wars: Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Best Of The New Trilogy, Despite Awkward ‘Last Jedi’ Fixes
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker is easily better than the prequels, and probably the best of the new trilogy in the end. It didn't need to change The Last Jedi, but it ultimately works.www.forbes.com
And with that, I’m out.
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It’s been hours since he posted that and nothing. Are you trying to bait people into saying something mean to him?Stand by for the ad hominem attacks.
Stand by for the ad hominem attacks.
Disney knew full well this should be on par with Endgame. That’s why this movie blatantly rips off one of Endgames big emotional exchanges without understanding why it worked in the first place.I think the real question is..where do we go from here. We have a good thing with Mandalorian. I'm holding out hope the Kenobi series will be good. But from a movie standpoint. There needs to be a new team. Kennedy can't take this forward. She's caused too much divide.
The "ending" of the Skywalker saga should have been on par with Endgame. Both financially and from a hype standpoint. Endgame did $1.2 Billion opening weekend. SW is going to struggle to get to $200 mil (if it even gets there). That's all on Kennedy and Iger.
I haven't seen any ad hominem attacks.
The lack of a republic army was explained in the Battlefront II campaign I believe..of all places. It’s confirmed to be canon. Their line of thought was that the old Republic fell in part because of its army, so they decided to be more passive. Which led way for the Resistence to form apparently. Having two light side teams was so confusing in 7, then Battlefront II wasn’t released until right before 8 was releasedRandom thoughts after just getting back:
Going to have to take time to properly "rank" it but oh my god they pulled SO much ridiculous BS out of thin air.
The Emperor stuff was totally unexplained and stupid, felt unnecessary. Why is the Emperor suddenly alive and what's more can summon thousands upon thousands of "ghost" Star Destroyers? And then why did the Resistance suddenly get a bazillion reinforcements out of nowhere to beat all of them?
There were just so many instances of them wishing plot resolutions into existence. It feels like they had no idea how to end things so they just gave up.
They really **** the bed with this trilogy. They had no idea where it was going or where it should go.
Three things that genuinely surprised me:
- Hux being a double agent
- Han showing up again
- The Anakin/Vader ghost rumor not being real (I had heard that for years so assumed it was true)
One of the biggest fundamental problems with this trilogy was they never spent the time effort to effectively world build. After three movies the actual balance of power in the galaxy is still extremely unclear. Why is the First Order so powerful? Aren't they supposed to be the rebels? Why does the New Republic not have an official army? Why are the good guys still rebels even though they're technically in power? Doesn't make any sense beyond just that they couldn't imagine Star Wars without "good guys = rebels, bad guys = empire"
Here...I’ll help you out.
“JJ likes money and was a producer.
Now I’ll give you a certificate and we can move up to 1st grade”
You're going to use a "victim card" on that? Not an attack. Merely a question.
The post you reference is a response to a post that claims that Abrams is a fan of TLJ and takes no issue with Johnson's direction. I think we all know that this is blatantly false. I don't see this as an attack on the poster. I see it more as taking issue with what is being asserted.
Can we agree though that John Williams' score was brilliant. The sound, proportion, and crescendo on the main theme was epic.
I’m still of the opinion that the Skywalker Saga was doomed after the first 3 films became classics. No matter what: nothing would live up to what fans built up in their heads from those movies.
Then you add in so much extra canon stuff from books and shows... the prequels... now this. It’s just a muddy convoluted mess.
Disney has done pretty well with content not as closely related to Skywalker/OT (Rogue One, Mandalorian, even Solo was decent). I think things will start looking up from here.
One of the more irrelevant hills I will die on is fighting with people who think Solo is a decent, let alone good, film.
I’m still of the opinion that the Skywalker Saga was doomed after the first 3 films became classics
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