SPOILERS: Snow White live action (March 21, 2025 release)

Phroobar

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That can't possibly be correct because we were told over, and over, and over (and over) again on this very message board that the 7 Hobos of Benneton were never intended to be in the film and that they were simply stand-ins for the CGI dwarf characters that were always intended to be in the film.
Well, surprise!

Sounds like live action Wish.
 
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Ghost93

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Both them and the CGI dwarfs are in the movie according to one review I watched.

Makes me think the dwarfs were added in the reshoots, which would partly explain the bad CGI.
The bandits have a very, very small role in the final version of the movie. Yet in the few scenes they do have, they are framed by the camera as if they were main characters ... despite having few lines.

I feel like the bandits probably had a lot of scenes on the cutting room floor. Not sure if I believe the theory that they were originally meant as replacements for the dwarves (although I wouldn't be shocked if that were true). If the dwarves did in fact not exist in the original version of the film, that would mean at least half the film was reshot.
 

Figments Friend

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I thought it was a perfectly "alright" 6/10. More than any of the other Disney remake, it felt like it had an identity crisis on whether it wanted to be a whimsical, old fashioned fairy tale or whether it wanted to be a more grounded, modern and realistic story.

Rachel Zegler is great as Snow White and they managed to give her more agency without turning her into the stereotypical "girl boss" action heroine. I also liked the romance with her and Jonathan quite a bit, even if it was a bit too reminiscent of the Rapunzel/Flynn Ryder romance. And while I like the story change of Jonathan being a poor bandit, it does rob us of the iconic "Someday My Prince Will Come."

I got used to the CGI dwarves but still feel that going the Polar Express CGI route was a very bad decision. They should have definitely cast live action actors, as it was always jarring to see them in the same space as real humans. I did like how they expanded on the relationship between Snow White and Dopey. I found her encouraging him to come into his own rather touching.

Jonathan's sidekicks of bandits felt like they had A LOT of scenes on the cutting room floor. The way they were framed in several scenes made it look like the camera was giving them the importance of main characters, but we had almost no screen time with them. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an earlier version of the movie where they were originally much more prominent, and then they had their roles pared down in reshoots.

The new songs feel dreadfully out of place. Way too pop-like and modern. They would be more at home in something like High School Musical than a fairytale classic. I did like the new version of "Whistle While You Work," however.

Gal Gadot's acting isn't very good, but I still enjoyed the Evil Queen and the expanded lore behind her. She could have been one of the all-time great live action Disney villains in the hands of a more capable actress. I feel this rewritten version of the Evil Queen actually feels like what King Magnifico was supposed to be in Wish. In fact, the climax of the movie, where Snow White encourages the kingdom to stand in resistance to the Queen, was extremely reminiscent of the ending of Wish.

This movie will probably bomb at the box office and I'm in an odd situation where I feel the movie doesn't deserve the extreme hate it's getting, yet I don't feel strongly enough about the movie to go out of my way to defend it. It's a very typical live action Disney remake. If you like the remakes, you'll probably like this. If you hate the remakes, I'd advise staying home as I don't think this will change your mind.

Thanks for the reveiw.

Agree regarding how the film seemed confused as to what it wanted to be.
Bit of a mash up, with a side of Disney’s ‘Once Upon a Time’ series vibe on top.

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Disney Irish

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I thought it was a perfectly "alright" 6/10. More than any of the other Disney remake, it felt like it had an identity crisis on whether it wanted to be a whimsical, old fashioned fairy tale or whether it wanted to be a more grounded, modern and realistic story.

Rachel Zegler is great as Snow White and they managed to give her more agency without turning her into the stereotypical "girl boss" action heroine. I also liked the romance with her and Jonathan quite a bit, even if it was a bit too reminiscent of the Rapunzel/Flynn Ryder romance. And while I like the story change of Jonathan being a poor bandit, it does rob us of the iconic "Someday My Prince Will Come."

I got used to the CGI dwarves but still feel that going the Polar Express CGI route was a very bad decision. They should have definitely cast live action actors, as it was always jarring to see them in the same space as real humans. I did like how they expanded on the relationship between Snow White and Dopey. I found her encouraging him to come into his own rather touching.

Jonathan's sidekicks of bandits felt like they had A LOT of scenes on the cutting room floor. The way they were framed in several scenes made it look like the camera was giving them the importance of main characters, but we had almost no screen time with them. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an earlier version of the movie where they were originally much more prominent, and then they had their roles pared down in reshoots.

The new songs feel dreadfully out of place. Way too pop-like and modern. They would be more at home in something like High School Musical than a fairytale classic. I did like the new version of "Whistle While You Work," however.

Gal Gadot's acting isn't very good, but I still enjoyed the Evil Queen and the expanded lore behind her. She could have been one of the all-time great live action Disney villains in the hands of a more capable actress. I feel this rewritten version of the Evil Queen actually feels like what King Magnifico was supposed to be in Wish. In fact, the climax of the movie, where Snow White encourages the kingdom to stand in resistance to the Queen, was extremely reminiscent of the ending of Wish.

This movie will probably bomb at the box office and I'm in an odd situation where I feel the movie doesn't deserve the extreme hate it's getting, yet I don't feel strongly enough about the movie to go out of my way to defend it. It's a very typical live action Disney remake. If you like the remakes, you'll probably like this. If you hate the remakes, I'd advise staying home as I don't think this will change your mind.
I agree overall with this, though I would give it a 7 or 7.5 myself.

Gadot is horrendous in this. You can tell she was getting into it, but she can’t act her way out of a paper bag.

Zegler is 100% believable as Snow. She was right at home being a singing princess, this is her wheelhouse. So she deserves none of the hate she has had to endure.

Overall I think everyone should give it a watch, whether at the theater or at home, and decide for themselves. But it is 100% enjoyable as long as you’re not looking for a shot-for-shot remake. There is enough in it to show they honored the original while still adding more to it.

I don’t know if there was a different version or not, but this version they released is good enough on its own to be a worthy “remake” in my opinion. If it has been done by any other Studio, no one and I mean no one would be saying anything about it.
 

Giss Neric

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I find it funny how whenever I say Rachel Zegler was great in this movie people say Disney paid me. She was the highlight for me in this movie and I always felt like she is a good actress regardless of preconceived notions people have towards her. 6/10.

The famous Evil Queen from Disneyland would most likely do a better job than Gal.
 

networkpro

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In the Parks
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I find it funny how whenever I say Rachel Zegler was great in this movie people say Disney paid me. She was the highlight for me in this movie and I always felt like she is a good actress regardless of preconceived notions people have towards her. 6/10.

The famous Evil Queen from Disneyland would most likely do a better job than Gal.

There's no doubt that the young lady has a great singing talent (or a good one and better sound editors), but {yes, the dreaded coordinating conjunction} she hasn't been a good spokesperson for the product.
 

Joel

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I didn’t finish the whole thing but there were many of them and only one of her. Plus it looks like they did a crap job. I mean the deer was licking the plates clean.
They completed every task they were assigned despite being much smaller creatures (except for the deer) without any training in the housekeeping industry or opposable thumbs. If they had truly done a "crap job", the responsibility for that ultimately rests with their supervisor. However, we know from the scenes that follow that their work was indeed seen as satisfactory to the client, even if it was unsolicited.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
They completed every task they were assigned despite being much smaller creatures (except for the deer) without any training in the housekeeping industry or opposable thumbs. If they had truly done a "crap job", the responsibility for that ultimately rests with their supervisor. However, we know from the scenes that follow that their work was indeed seen as satisfactory to the client, even if it was unsolicited.
Possibly. But re-creating this scene would have required the American Humane Society to be on set and would have likely added PETA to the long list of people opposing this film.
 

Farerb

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I've seen four films of Rachel and I thought she basically plays all her characters the same, which makes me come to the conclusion that she basically plays herself in everything she's done. It might have worked in the Hunger Games and West Side Story (less so but Spielberg directed her well), but she absolutely isn't believable as Snow White and it has nothing to do with her skin color, she completely lacks the warmth and innocence of the character. The reviews that overpraise her are disingenuous and in my opinion it's only done because it's the new litmus test to know if you're a "Good Person™" if you over praise her, I just don't buy it. I don't think she's bad, but she isn't extraordinary as they claim.

Gal was also just fine and isn't as bad as they say. I prefer her Evil Queen to Melissa McCarthy's shouty Ursula and she was definitely better than that dreadful actor who played Jafar, but I don't think she's at the same level as Angelina Jolie and Cate Blanchet. I feel like these remakes don't entice Oscar actors like they used to 10 years ago due to bad reputation.

I'm not a fan of Pasek and Paul's pop style. All the songs felt like they belong in a Disney channel movie. Even the songs from the original got an awful rendition that reminded me those awful video clips from the Platinum edition DVDs.

This film isn't good, it's not a complete travesty but not good, a one and done and be forgotten forever.
 

Farerb

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