SPOILERS: Indiana Jones 5: The Dial of Destiny

[MisterPenguin]

The things I did like was the battle at the end. It was cool to see the ships, catapults and mirrors used to burn the attacking ships. I wonder what they thought of the crashed Nazi bomber.

Before going back in time, when they arrived in Sicily, there was a puppet show that showed a fire-breathing dragon breathing fire on the Romans.

Also, on Archimedes' crypt, there was a carving of a bird/dragon with propellers.

So, they thought the planes were mythical flying beasts.

 

[Phroobar]

Before going back in time, when they arrived in Sicily, there was a puppet show that showed a fire-breathing dragon breathing fire on the Romans.

Also, on Archimedes' crypt, there was a carving of a bird/dragon with propellers.

So, they thought the planes were mythical flying beasts.

When they finally got to the crypt, it felt more like a Indy movie. The discovery of Archimedes' skeleton wearing the wrist watch was pretty cool foreshadowing.

When they knocked over the bookshelves earlier in the movie, I was hoping they would go around in a circle like they did in the Mummy.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Adding to my non-spoiler review from the other thread.

It felt a little bloated. A lot of exposition post opening scene dragged that section out. Maybe it could have been a little tighter overall but that's quibbling a bit.

The action sequences veered too much into Mission Impossible or Fast and Furious territory. High speed vehicle chases with people talking to each other? Not going to happen. Jumping from one moving vehicle to another with ease? No. Chasing down a plane on a motor bike and then climbing up through the landing gear? A bit too James Bond-ish in my opinion.

I just think of the vehicle chases in the older movies as smaller in scale and more realistic, but not less thrilling. A product of their time I suppose. Temple of Doom was probably closer to being over the top with things like the mine cart chase.

When it comes to nostalgia there's often that fine line between fan service and feeling like we're being pandered to. Sometimes you just have to give the audience a little bit of what they want. To that end, I loved the Raiders callback between Indy and Marion. It was a simple thing that effectively conveyed that they feel now what they felt then. The movie didn't overdo callbacks so I was okay with them using one in an important way.

For contrast, see the most recent Ghostbusters movie in which Bill Murray and Sigourney Weaver recreate an old scene just for the sake of it. It didn't relate to the story like it did here.

Sallah singing at the end in contrast felt a bit too much like shoehorning in a little easter egg just for the sake of it. Speaking of Sallah I felt bad for him. "I want to go an another adventure too!" Indy: "no."


I was going to wait on this one to watch at home but word of mouth was solid if not exceptional so I saw it.

It's good. You have to keep things in perspective. It's the fourth best Indy movie but that's not a bad thing given how good those movies were. This is better than a lot, maybe most, movies.

It gives you what an Indy movie should. Our heroes and the villains racing against each other to acquire an artifact with a series of cliffhanger action sequences along the way.

I wish at least a few of the action sequences were more grounded in reality. They were generally too unrealistic.

It didn't have any really egregious moments like Crystal Skull that left many of us baffled. How does a nuclear bomb hand pick one fridge to fling out of a nuclear blast? How does a senior citizen not die as that fridge is flung across miles of land bouncing the whole way?

A few people have cited too much CGI and I didn't get that feeling. Lots of practical and location shooting. Didn't feel like it was created in a computer like some movies.

There's some nostalgia but not overdone.

Based on box office a lot of people are on the fence about this one. I recommend seeing it. It's the last time to see Indy on the big screen and Ford still has a lot of charisma. There's a reason he's one of the biggest movie stars of all time. It generally delivers on what an Indy movie should and avoids the errors of its' predecessor.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I thought it was pretty well done, 8 out of 10. The time travel bit was ok, I'm glad it ended up being science based and not some "magical" device.

De-aging still not 100%, especially in the action scenes, but overall was passable.

A good send off and end to the Indy saga in my opinion. I'm ok if they want to continue with a female lead series in the same universe, Indy is not being replaced, more below.

The anti-female rhetoric of Youtubers like Doomcork with "inside" information about Phoebe going to erase Indy and take over the fedora never came to pass, just as expected it wouldn't. Indy was not written or played as feeble or helpless as these Youtubers were claiming. Not sure why people still put so much stock in anything that guy says, he ends up being wrong like 95-99% of the time. Even if there was an idea thrown around at one point about Phoebe taking the fedora, it never made it into the final product as he claimed it would, which is the whole point, he was wrong.

Literally no one on the planet agrees with you

Stop carrying the freight…do better

 

[Indy_UK]

Also I forgot to mention before but are Disney relaxing their stance on smoking? Mads Mikkelson lit up a couple of times in the movie?

 

[Disney Irish]

Literally no one on the planet agrees with you

Stop carrying the freight…do better

First you don’t know everyone on the planet or how they feel about a single movie, so stop.
Second there are posters on here who are stating they liked the movie overall so even your statement is untrue, so again stop.

People are allowed to feel however they want about this movie, both positive and negative.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I went in dreading it was going to be terrible but came out pleasantly surprised. Good character development on Indy’s goddaughter, going from cash is everything I’m so independent to recognizing the importance of family at the end. Cool scenes throughout. I can gripe about things like the costumes for the German army and Roman armies, but that is small potatoes. Overall, very well done.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

First you don’t know everyone on the planet or how they feel about a single movie, so stop.
Second there are posters on here who are stating they liked the movie overall so even your statement is untrue, so again stop.

People are allowed to feel however they want about this movie, both positive and negative.

None of the feedback that’s accessible to humans is “8 outta 10”:..it’s tepid or bad.

Who are you fooling?

Don’t give me the “people have their feelings” nonsense…it’s the same nonsense every single damn time Disney screws up. Everytime.

3 kids like it…so it can’t be bad, right? Success is determined by the 7 who didn’t.

its such a dishonest attempt at defending failure

 

[Disney Irish]

None of the feedback that’s accessible to humans is “8 outta 10”:..it’s tepid or bad.

Who are you fooling?

Don’t give me the “people have their feelings” nonsense…it’s the same nonsense every single damn time Disney screws up. Everytime.

3 kids like it…so it can’t be bad, right? Success is determined by the 7 who didn’t.

its such a dishonest attempt at defending failure

Might want to look beyond the echo chamber.....

Even when you go into the unverified scores, its still in the 80s with an average of 4 out of 5 stars. So yeah plenty of people are rating it 8 out of 10.

So again stop, we get it you hate everything that current LFL stands for, but that doesn't mean people that actually see the film are sharing your sentiment.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Do you want me to start posting awfuls movie flops with “B” audience scores?

We can do just lucasfilm or expand to all Hollywood.

If you…or anyone…likes a movie…I’m glad for you.

That ultimately matters not to Disney. They’re looking for cash and ancillary sales. Failures are failures. Period.

I don’t know how many times we can try to defy gravity around here?

And fyi: nobody is seeing the film. But you know that.

 

[Disney Irish]

Do you want me to start posting awfuls movie flops with “B” audience scores?

We can do just lucasfilm or expand to all Hollywood.

If you…or anyone…likes a movie…I’m glad for you.

That ultimately matters not to Disney. They’re looking for cash and ancillary sales. Failures are failures. Period.

I don’t know how many times we can try to defy gravity around here?

That wasn't what you were commenting on though, you were ranting about my own personal review that no one on the planet is liking the movie and rating it "8 outta 10", clearly that is not true with verifiable evidence.

Yes the movie will very likely lose money, maybe even lots of it. But its clear that the people that are seeing it on average are liking it.

So stop with this nonsense.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Do you want me to start posting awfuls movie flops with “B” audience scores?

We can do just lucasfilm or expand to all Hollywood.

If you…or anyone…likes a movie…I’m glad for you.

That ultimately matters not to Disney. They’re looking for cash and ancillary sales. Failures are failures. Period.

I don’t know how many times we can try to defy gravity around here?

Because most of the herd is going in one direction does not mean it must be followed. I liked the movie; I accept the dismal numbers and lackluster commentary for what it all is, still I liked the movie. Then I also don't generally follow the herd anyway.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Because most of the herd is going in one direction does not mean it must be followed. I liked the movie; I accept the dismal numbers and lackluster commentary for what it all is, still I liked the movie. Then I also don't generally follow the herd anyway.

That’s totally fine. But this is the Walt Disney company…

Failure makes everything worse for all of us. There’s no disputing this.

It’s Just like when people started buying after hours and Boo Bash:
“Well I think it’s worth it…”

Yeah but the prices are made for the masses…not the individual. The lone Buffalo spreads the virus to the herd.

What stupid crap do they do with their studios now?

 

[Disney Irish]

That’s totally fine. But this is the Walt Disney company…

Failure makes everything worse for all of us. There’s no disputing this.

It’s Just like when people started buying after hours and Boo Bash:
“Well I think it’s worth it…”

Yeah but the prices are made for the masses…not the individual. The lone Buffalo spreads the virus to the herd.

What stupid crap do they do with their studios now?

Except one, if honest, can recognize the reality of the situation.

Yes the opening box office is disappointing, and likely end result is money lost on the film, but by and large the audience that is seeing it is liking it.

Both can be true at the same time, its a very common Hollywood tale not just Disney.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Except one, if honest, can recognize the reality of the situation.

Yes the opening box office is disappointing, and likely end result is money lost on the film, but by and large the audience that is seeing it is liking it.

Both can be true at the same time, its a very common Hollywood tale not just Disney.

They’re not getting the minimum audience to see it.

A failure in all the major studios in 3 months

Marvel
Feature
Pixar
Lucas

Have a good one…minor amounts of people seeing movies is pointless. Let’s see how that stock goes?

 

[Casper Gutman]

They’re not getting the minimum audience to see it.

A failure in all the major studios in 3 months

Marvel
Feature
Pixar
Lucas

Have a good one…minor amounts of people seeing movies is pointless. Let’s see how that stock goes?

If you ever get what you think you want, you will hate it more then anything you’re complaining about now.

 

[Disney Irish]

They’re not getting the minimum audience to see it.

A failure in all the major studios in 3 months

Marvel
Feature
Pixar
Lucas

Have a good one…minor amounts of people seeing movies is pointless. Let’s see how that stock goes?

For me it'll be interesting to see what happens in the coming weeks, will it start to gain a larger audience based on good word of mouth? If we take Elemental as an example it just might. Will it be enough to salvage things, maybe not, but it might make the sting of the loss hurt a bit less again just like Elemental.

The stock would skyrocket tomorrow if they announced a dividend, so that isn't the barometer you think it is.

 

[ElvisMickey]

First you don’t know everyone on the planet or how they feel about a single movie, so stop.
Second there are posters on here who are stating they liked the movie overall so even your statement is untrue, so again stop.

People are allowed to feel however they want about this movie, both positive and negative.

You guys like every modern Disney movie

 

[Disney Irish]

You guys like every modern Disney movie

Who are "you guys"?

And speaking for me personally, I don't like every modern Disney movie. There are quite a few that I thought we just alright, and some I personally didn't care for.

Also I'm not going to apologize for liking what I like.

 

[ElvisMickey]

Who are "you guys"?

And speaking for me personally, I don't like every modern Disney movie. There are quite a few that I thought we just alright, and some I personally didn't care for.

Also I'm not going to apologize for liking what I like.

All good. Appreciate that you enjoyed. Hope you’re having a great weekend. All done with arguing with folks…