SPOILERS: Indiana Jones 5: The Dial of Destiny

[Phroobar]

Or that 4 was terrible and people will not be giving any more money to the Indy franchise. That's the camp I'm in.

If you use that logic, you can pretty much write off everything Disney makes. I guess that is exactly what is happening.

Now if we can get people to stop coming to Disneyland.
@MakeDisneylandUnpopularAgain

 

[Basil of Baker Street]

If you use that logic, you can pretty much write off everything Disney makes. I guess that is exactly what is happening.

Now if we can get people to stop coming to Disneyland.
@MakeDisneylandUnpopularAgain

I mean yeah. That's kinda how it works. If I get a bad meal in a restaurant, I generally don't go back. Unless of course people tell me that it's great and I must have caught it on a bad night. Or it's under new management, etc. I'm not seeing any of that with IJ5. Now if it starts getting rave exit reviews, I will possibly change my mind.

 

[erasure fan1]

I mean yeah. That's kinda how it works. If I get a bad meal in a restaurant, I generally don't go back. Unless of course people tell me that it's great and I must have caught it on a bad night. Or it's under new management, etc. I'm not seeing any of that with IJ5.

That's exactly how it works. It's not on me to give Disney the benefit of the doubt. It's on Disney to prove to me they're worth spending my money on. And when you've strung together a lot bad, to mediocre at best, of course people might just say, yea I'm good, I can wait.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I mean yeah. That's kinda how it works. If I get a bad meal in a restaurant, I generally don't go back. Unless of course people tell me that it's great and I must have caught it on a bad night. Or it's under new management, etc. I'm not seeing any of that with IJ5. Now if it starts getting rave exit reviews, I will possibly change my mind.

Not really a fair comparison as movies are by nature inconsistent. Sometimes a story works, sometimes it doesn't.

Most of the creative team have changed from Crystal Skull so I'm not going to assume consistent quality, or lack thereof.

 

[WorldExplorer]

Just saw it.

Enjoyed the first ten minutes.

I can sum up the rest of my thoughts as "I did not pay for my ticket, and I would not pay for a sixth movie".

There's a special kind of dread you feel having an obnoxious character show up and realizing that not only is she not going to die, she's going to keep right on not dying for two hours.

Nothing made up for that.


Edit: For clarity, not paying for the ticket is just a thing I wanted to note. Not like, it was so bad I demanded my money back or something.

 

[Phroobar]

Just saw it.

Enjoyed the first ten minutes.

I can sum up the rest of my thoughts as "I did not pay for my ticket, and I would not pay for a sixth movie".

There's a special kind of dread you feel having an obnoxious character show up and realizing that not only is she not going to die, she's going to keep right on not dying for two hours.

Nothing made up for that.

Lucasfilm is so doomed.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I thought it was a great finale for Indy.

Mutt killed off screen. LOL.

I thought there would be a lot of time travel shenanigans, but the MacGuffin didn't do a sliver of what it might have done (it only brought people from the future to Archimedes to help in their war).

The de-aging was great.

 

[Ghost93]

Dial of Destiny reminded me a lot of the James Bond movie No Time to Die and Pixar's Lightyear in the sense that I thought it was a well-made movie that simultaneously missed the appeal of the original character by having a bleak, somber tone.

The movie left me thinking a lot about my own mortality and what friends and family I might still have in my life — if any — when I'm in my 80s. That's not at all what I should be thinking about when leaving a freakin Indiana Jones movie!

I'd give it a 7.5/10 as a movie, but it doesn't feel like an Indiana Jones movie. It's a much better film than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, but KOTKS felt like it did a better job keeping the overall spirit of the original Indy trilogy.

 

[TalkingHead]

Not good, and doubt I’d see it again.

De-aging looks ok, I guess, but doesn’t work with old Harrison’s voice. Immediately takes you out of the flashback. Personally thought he moved and looked like a video game character on top of the train.

Drags and has no zip like the earlier movies. Visual effects in the ancient section were awful. VFX often don’t look good in broad daylight. (See also the horrible backgrounds on the boat.) Other action sequences were passable but none really stands out as memorable.

Liked the cast, didn’t mind Waller-Bridge’s performance. The kid has no character. The screenplay has very little humor like the other films. It’s either the writing or Ford’s performance but rarely felt like he’s playing the Jones character. Apart from occasionally donning the fedora the character doesn’t come through.

Felt like a checklist of earlier Indy entries, down to the quotes in the Williams’ score, although his music is the best part of the movie.

Feels like there were about twenty more interesting things to do with a time travel device, none realized here. Didn’t care for the ending, and hated hated hated the last scene of fan service with Marion repeating the bit from Raiders. Major reshoot vibes.

Whole thing essentially ends where Crystal Skull did with the two of them together, so what was this all about? Making another tentpole for Disney to cash in on the Lucasfilm purchase. Completely unnecessary.

 

[Disney Irish]

I thought it was pretty well done, 8 out of 10. The time travel bit was ok, I'm glad it ended up being science based and not some "magical" device.

De-aging still not 100%, especially in the action scenes, but overall was passable.

A good send off and end to the Indy saga in my opinion. I'm ok if they want to continue with a female lead series in the same universe, Indy is not being replaced, more below.

The anti-female rhetoric of Youtubers like Doomcork with "inside" information about Phoebe going to erase Indy and take over the fedora never came to pass, just as expected it wouldn't. Indy was not written or played as feeble or helpless as these Youtubers were claiming. Not sure why people still put so much stock in anything that guy says, he ends up being wrong like 95-99% of the time. Even if there was an idea thrown around at one point about Phoebe taking the fedora, it never made it into the final product as he claimed it would, which is the whole point, he was wrong.

 

[Indy_UK]

I actually quite enjoyed it. The time travel aspect was actually quite well done.

I'd give it a 7/8 out of 10

 

[wtyy21]

Today, is North America release of the film. But, the first logo is tagline-less. The original version with 100 YEARS OF WONDER tagline presumably just for International release of the film.

 

[TalkingHead]

Expected them to do so much more with the time travel element. Seeing Indy leap to different eras could’ve been fun. The movie hardly even engages with the themes of history, destiny, etc. Seeing him dropped into one ancient CGI maritime battle was underwhelming.

Awful script. Writing matters, a concept Lucasfilm still apparently hasn’t learned.

 

[maemae74]

I am super pumped to see this movie!! I hope it is great!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Expected them to do so much more with the time travel element. Seeing Indy leap to different eras could’ve been fun. The movie hardly even engages with the themes of history, destiny, etc. Seeing him dropped into one ancient CGI maritime battle was underwhelming.

Awful script. Writing matters, a concept Lucasfilm still apparently hasn’t learned.

In all the movies, the magical MacGuffin reveals its true power in the last 10 minutes and the movie wraps up.

 

[Screamface]

So when this film doesn't feature the absurd "woke" ending the noise machine was screeching about and which got credulously parroted onto these boards, can we have a discussion about how their is a very efficient, lucrative network of outlets that just makes up garbage to try to harm Disney because its perceived as a culture war enemy? Are we going to talk about how toxic that is for American culture?

Or are we going to pretend noone completely bought into the lies and just do it all again in a few months (or weeks)?

The brilliance of those grifters is that they simply claim the ending was changed. While the ending of the film is lame and you can figure it was changed from something worse. It clearly can't have been the ending people like Dumbcock claimed. As the de-aged Indy was not teamed up with old Indy, just a flashback at the beginning and the notion they make several significantly different films at once is dumb.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Speaking for Me, Myself and I, all three of us saw the movie, thoroughly enjoyed it. That's our review, have a good one.

 

[Phroobar]

It was enjoyable. I just wish it was better and shorter. I noticed there wasn't any Spielberg type blocking that is found in the other movies. I guess that wasn't the director's style. The de-aging was good but Indy still sounded like an old man. The cg was off at times.

I wish Helena wasnt so self absorbed and I got tired of her beating up on Indy. She wasn't a likeable character. I thought her character could have used a better backstory than Indy got mad at her obsessed father and took his toy away. No love interest towards anyone she met.

Ted was more of a parrot for Helen's thoughts. There was nothing to the kid other than he wanted to fly. Good thing he stole a plane with a real pilot inside. Short round was Indy's friend and helped him get in and out of trouble. This kid was strictly an snarky observer who did nothing to help further the quest.

I wish we had more action with Antonio Banderas's frog man character. He went down too easy and Helena could care less. It was a neat idea to put Indy underwater but there wasn't much he could do against eels. Too bad he had such a small part.

The black CIA girl had no control over her men. She might as well not been there. The thugs were stupid and not that scary. They did there job.

Indy's breakup with Marion seemed a little vague. He agreed with Mutt not to go to Vietnam. He did it anyway out of spite. He got killed and Marion never forgave Indy. Indy didn't want him to go so the breakup didn't make sense. Also why didn't Helena know any of this? It was nice seeing them reunioned at the end.

 

[Disney Irish]

It was enjoyable. I just wish it was better and shorter. I noticed there wasn't any Spielberg type blocking that is found in the other movies. I guess that wasn't the director's style. The de-aging was good but Indy still sounded like an old man. The cg was off at times.

I agree if was enjoyable overall, and the CG was off at times but passable.

I wish Helena wasnt so self absorbed and I got tired of her beating up on Indy. She wasn't a likeable character. I thought her character could have used a better backstory than Indy got mad at her obsessed father and took his toy away. No love interest towards anyone she met.

I thought she was a good written character, more interesting than the typical "hero has to save the damsel" trope with a shell of a female character. Gave her character more agency and more a real partner to Indy a lot of the movie, especially during the treasure hunt scenes.

But I can see how Phoebe's performance can rub some people the wrong way.

Ted was more of a parrot for Helen's thoughts. There was nothing to the kid other than he wanted to fly. Good thing he stole a plane with a real pilot inside. Short round was Indy's friend and helped him get in and out of trouble. This kid was strictly an snarky observer who did nothing to help further the quest.

I agree, Ted is one character that I think could have been dropped. But I think what they were trying to do is mirror the Indy/Short Round story, which I think you keyed in on, to show that she and Indy actually had a lot more in common in the long run.

I wish we had more action with Antonio Banderas's frog man character. He went down too easy and Helena could care less. It was a neat idea to put Indy underwater but there wasn't much he could do against eels. Too bad he had such a small part.

I agree it would have been nice to see him used more. As for Helena not caring about him, she only met the guy a couple hours before. How is she suppose to feel? If I see a guy get killed in front of me that I didn't know even if others around me knew them, which has actually happened to me, I'll be sad for like .5 seconds due to the loss of life but then happy its not me, ie it makes sense in the context of the story.

I thought the eels was a good call back to Indy's fear of snakes.

The black CIA girl had no control over her men. She might as well not been there.

Welcome to the 60s......

Indy's breakup with Marion seemed a little vague. He agreed with Mutt not to go to Vietnam. He did it anyway out of spite. He got killed and Marion never forgave Indy. Indy didn't want him to go so the breakup didn't make sense. Also why didn't Helena know any of this? It was nice seeing them reunioned at the end.

Grief of losing a loved one, especially a child, often has misplaced anger. You'll have spouse blaming spouse even if they don't deserve it leading to a breakup, its a very common tale.

Also Helena didn't know any of it because she hadn't seen Indy since she was like 12.

 

[Phroobar]

The things I did like was the battle at the end. It was cool to see the ships, catapults and mirrors used to burn the attacking ships. I wonder what they thought of the crashed Nazi bomber.

I also like the train chase at the beginning. That was fun running on it and into the cars. It was nice and fast.