News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[dig311dug]

It's ten times more expensive to sign a new customer then retain an old one... at least that's what I learned from watching the fire episode of the office...

 

[Surferboy567]

The timeline I gave earlier is still the best information I have. DLR first, maybe this year, maybe next year. WDW MK version to follow, but maybe not even until after DLR's is complete. This is way down the road. Tokyo's version is not changing unless they pull a Dan Snyder.

By the way, I have a bit more resolution on how all of this came to be, and I'll be putting that together in a new thread in the future. But just to clue you into why they announced something with dubious planning and no short term plan to implement as the public might have believed... this essentially came down to a committee making a recommendation for a blue sky doc being adopted, and then top of the top making the call to go with it out of fear that a boycott movement could happen against Disney+. That's likewise why they hurriedly signed a former pro athlete to a Disney Plus content production contract - to avoid a Disney+ boycott that could be tremendously painful for the company at this time.

Very interesting

 

[_caleb]

The fact that Disney continues to fear boycotts (by one subset of our population over potential subscribers) over what their long-time theme park guests prefer/have loved for years really scares me for the future (as a theme park guest/fan). Maybe we need to hope Disney divests itself of the parks to OLC!

What makes you think that potential boycotters are not also long-time theme park guests/subscribers?

 

[spresso81]

What makes you think that potential boycotters are not also long-time theme park guests/subscribers?

They may be but that is another subset of a subset.

Disney used to try to appeal to the entire family and as many people as possible. No smaller and smaller subsets of people.

also to clarify I am fine with the Colin K. Hiring for content as it may be interesting. I would rather that signing be more for the content itself than to avoid a boycott.

 

[Ravenclaw78]

They may be but that is another subset of a subset.

Disney used to try to appeal to the entire family and as many people as possible. No smaller and smaller subsets of people.

also to clarify I am fine with the Colin K. Hiring for content as it may be interesting. I would rather that signing be more for the content itself than to avoid a boycott.

The idea that Disney hired him to avoid a boycott is ludicrous. Nobody (very likely literally, but the Internet is too big to say for sure) was threatening to boycott Disney+ if they didn't create a show for him out of thin air.

 

[spresso81]

The idea that Disney hired him to avoid a boycott is ludicrous. Nobody (very likely literally, but the Internet is too big to say for sure) was threatening to boycott Disney+ if they didn't create a show for him out of thin air.

I may agree with you I was just replying to WDWpros post

 

[_caleb]

Disney used to try to appeal to the entire family and as many people as possible. No smaller and smaller subsets of people.

I think there used to be such a thing as "appealing to the entire family," but Disney realized that these days, society is nothing more than a collection of "small subsets."

 

[Cesar R M]

Correct. Bob Bucks are the only accepted currency here.
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how many toilet paper rolls are the equivalent of 100 bob bucks?

 

[TeriofTerror]

I believe there’s surveys about most attractions at the moment.

I received one regarding MILF and Gorilla Falls Exploration Trail.

 

[EagleScout610]

This works. Before there was "Based on characters from SOTS" but now it just says the characters and plot

 

[Brer Oswald]

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This works. Before there was "Based on characters from SOTS" but now it just says the characters and plot

Is “colourful southern bayou” a new line? Regardless, it’s inaccurate. There are currently no Bayous in the Florida version. Well, at least not in the typical sense, like you see in Disneyland Splash or PatF.

Which brings up my other question. Are they going to spend big bucks changing the sets to match closer to the Disneyland version? Or are they just going to reuse the sunny, southern farm-like animal village, and just pretend it’s a bayou?

 

[LittleBuford]

Is “colourful southern bayou” a new line? Regardless, it’s inaccurate. There are no Bayous in the Florida version.

The “bayou” reference has been in use since at least 2019 (the earliest result I could find online).

 

[Brer Oswald]

The “bayou” reference has been in use since at least 2019 (the earliest result I could find online).

I assume it’s a Direct carry over from the Disneyland description. I’m not sure they realize the How Do You Do section has a completely different setting on both coasts.

 

[GoneForGood]

I assume it’s a Direct carry over from the Disneyland description. I’m not sure they realize the How Do You Do section has a completely different setting on both coasts.

They often use the ONE scene of Brer Frog on Brer Gator fishing in reference to this..but even then that's like, one small scene..definitely odd wording.

 

[Brer Oswald]

They often use the ONE scene of Brer Frog on Brer Gator fishing in reference to this..but even then that's like, one small scene..definitely odd wording.

Yeah. That scene is Florida is a little out of place given what’s immediately before and immediately after, but I see why they included it and the animatronics.

 

[Parker in NYC]

I don’t disagree with him. I just find the discussion interesting. It’s hard to find people open minded enough to have an enlightening discussion about it, but I feel like there are on here.

I'm not denying the need for the conversation. Create a thread over on the Politics board or use one of the existing threads.

 

[GimpYancIent]

I do agree with this one. Though I think there are some natural Target market limits, as a child of the 90s I’ve underestimated how much SOTS has left the mainstream consciousness for younger generations.

As an example I spoke with yet another “informal focus groups” at a socially distanced family bbq yesterday that included my 8 year old godchild and 4 year old cousin (both girls who are princess fans).

Needless to say it was a very compelling conversation of course. However my godchild who had a traumatic experience on Splash Mohntain before (about 2 years ago) was excited about the change as a fan of P&TF. However, when explaining to her this was still the same splash mountain with drops, etc. she was a bit disappointed and unsure if she’d try it out again (though I’m sure that’ll change with age).

The 4 year old likes Princess Tiana but is not tall enough to go on it. Both the 4 and 8 year old LOVE Pirates of the Caribbean, Mansion, Peter Pan, etc. Their thrill seeking older siblings (high school age teenagers) had also never heard of the original SOTS but really didn’t seem to care much for P&TF either. As long as the drops stayed, they’re happy.

Disney parks are supposed to constantly change with the times, at least that was the original concept. The guests enjoy the ride itself, the rest is dressing to appeal to the audience. The current crowd would be more readily familiar with the Princess and Frog story.

 

[dig311dug]

Disney parks are supposed to constantly change with the times, at least that was the original concept. The guests enjoy the ride itself, the rest is dressing to appeal to the audience. The current crowd would be more readily familiar with the Princess and Frog story.

There are plenty of attractions across the four gates that need updating much sooner than splash...

 

[PrinceCharming617]

I'm cool with the attraction, I just wish it wasn't taking Splash's place.

 

[Jrn14]

Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - attraction discussion only