News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[EagleScout610]

All im saying is this and i will stand by this statement…. There were NO serious plans to replace Splash with Tiana at any point before the social media semi outrage until someone can prove me wrong i will stand by my statement. A company who literally is cheaper than cheap at times and have far more problems was planning on wasting money overhauling literally one of the most popular rides in the MK?!? You truly believe that?!?

Given the controversial history of Song of the South, I have no doubt there were plans drafted yet shelved to replace Splash

 

[crazy4disney]

Given the controversial history of Song of the South, I have no doubt there were plans drafted yet shelved to replace Splash

 

[crazy4disney]

I think Disney has plans for everything as been reported but as we see with even announced plans plenty never happen. I dont think anything serious was in the works before what we saw 2 years ago. Its my opinion especially when they have so many others places that $ could have been used for..

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

I know companies never lie for PR purposes....

 

[MisterPenguin]

I know companies never lie for PR purposes....

You have zero proof they lied.

We have plenty of people with known connections to upper Disney management say they didn't lie.

So, you can keep reposting your conspiracy "opinion" as much as you want. There's not an audience here that will believe you.

 

[crazy4disney]

You have zero proof they lied.

We have plenty of people with known connections to upper Disney management say they didn't lie.

So, you can keep reposting your conspiracy "opinion" as much as you want. There's not an audience here that will believe you.

Personally dont care who believes me or not. Im still entitled to my opinion. As is anyone else who have felt the same way…

Great PR move tho making believe they are removing this bc its a problem when its nothing more than another ride that was heavy on AA and maintenance i would believe.

Either way as i said. I will believe what i want. Do i believe there were “plans” 100% were they serious? I highly doubt it.

So feel free to call me all the names you want. And i would bet there are plenty of people here that may believe the same as i do.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Personally dont care who believes me or not. Im still entitled to my opinion. As is anyone else who have felt the same way…

Great PR move tho making believe they are removing this bc its a problem when its nothing more than another ride that was heavy on AA and maintenance i would believe.

Either way as i said. I will believe what i want. Do i believe there were “plans” 100% were they serious? I highly doubt it.

So feel free to call me all the names you want. And i would bet there are plenty of people here that may believe the same as i do.

Okee dokee.

 

[James Alucobond]

Personally dont care who believes me or not. Im still entitled to my opinion. As is anyone else who have felt the same way…

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Either way as i said. I will believe what i want. Do i believe there were “plans” 100% were they serious? I highly doubt it.

You can believe whatever you want, but if you have literally nothing to present as evidence that supports your point, you shouldn’t peddle it as anything other than a baseless gut feeling rather than attempting to mask your lack of evidence with a vague assertion that this is how PR works.

Additionally, this is a discussion forum. If you want to post opinions and don’t want feedback or input, you can put it in your blog.

 

[crazy4disney]

You can believe whatever you want, but if you have literally nothing to present as evidence that supports your point, you shouldn’t peddle it as anything other than a baseless gut feeling rather than attempting to mask your lack of evidence with a vague assertion that this is how PR works.

Additionally, this is a discussion forum. If you want to post opinions and don’t want feedback or input, you can put it in your blog.

Dont have a blog and I love the feedback and the talks back and forth it seems like others dont when it doesnt fit their narrative or what they believe etc... last i checked i am entitled to have my OWN opinion whatever it may or may not be based on... and just an FYI i know full well how PR works and if you truly believe everything a company or media or govt tells you... Then the PR department is doing their job to perfection...

 

[James Alucobond]

I am open to opinions that aren’t part of my personal mental narrative when there is evidence to the contrary or a compelling argument that changes my mind. You’re not giving me any of that.

I certainly don’t believe everything I’m told, but there’s a difference between healthy skepticism and, uh, whatever this is.

 

[JD80]

I am open to opinions that aren’t part of my personal mental narrative when there is evidence to the contrary or a compelling argument that changes my mind. You’re not giving me any of that.

I certainly don’t believe everything I’m told, but there’s a difference between healthy skepticism and, uh, whatever this is.

Wait until you see his other posts about the moon landing.

 

[MisterPenguin]

it seems like others dont when it doesnt fit their narrative

Calling the "evidence" we have from known and reliable insiders a "narrative" is quite rich.

In your attempt to dismiss what we have that you don't (that is, evidence) you characterize it as "a narrative", that is, a story.

When, in fact, that is what you're doing: You're telling a story (that is, a narrative) that all we have is a narrative, when we have more than a narrative, that is, evidence.

You are the one who are creating a story (narrative) based solely on your assumptions of how "PR" works.

Are you an expert in Public Relations, especially in Disney Public Relations, that you know the procedures and policies and history of Disney public relations?

All you have is a theory unhinged from any real evidence or information.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

FYI - More on Tiana's Bayou Adventure at D23:

"Fans will discover behind-the-scenes glimpses of Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, the transformation of EPCOT, new Frozen-themed experiences, Disney Cruise Line, live entertainment, and more."

 

[crazy4disney]

Calling the "evidence" we have from known and reliable insiders a "narrative" is quite rich.

In your attempt to dismiss what we have that you don't (that is, evidence) you characterize it as "a narrative", that is, a story.

When, in fact, that is what you're doing: You're telling a story (that is, a narrative) that all we have is a narrative, when we have more than a narrative, that is, evidence.

You are the one who are creating a story (narrative) based solely on your assumptions of how "PR" works.

Are you an expert in Public Relations, especially in Disney Public Relations, that you know the procedures and policies and history of Disney public relations?

All you have is a theory unhinged from any real evidence or information.

Thanks for that summary Mr Penguin..... I forgot everything Disney says is true... I forget everything Disney announces happens... Im an expert in absolute nothing but i am very very familiar with how PR works... I didnt realize tho you were in an expert is such things... i will make a note of that as i consider you one of the more respected people ive followed in the 20+ years ive been coming to this site tho....

 

[MisterPenguin]

Thanks for that summary Mr Penguin..... I forgot everything Disney says is true... I forget everything Disney announces happens... Im an expert in absolute nothing but i am very very familiar with how PR works... I didnt realize tho you were in an expert is such things... i will make a note of that as i consider you one of the more respected people ive followed in the 20+ years ive been coming to this site tho....

 

[Dranth]

I know companies never lie for PR purposes....

I legit don't get it.

Both the company and insiders have said this was in the works for a while. Who knows, maybe you are right and they spur of the moment decided to do this but isn't it possible you have decided on a narrative and are refusing to entertain any alternative?

 

[LittleBuford]

I legit don't get it.

Both the company and insiders have said this was in the works for a while. Who knows, maybe you are right and they spur of the moment decided to do this but isn't it possible you have decided on a narrative and are refusing to entertain any alternative?

If I recall what insiders have shared correctly, the retheme was already in the works for Disneyland but not for WDW until the events of 2020 prompted both an expansion and an acceleration of the plan. To be clear, I don’t think the much-maligned petition played any role in this shift, nor do I believe that WDW’s Splash Mountain could have outlived its West Coast counterpart for very long even if 2020 hadn’t happened.

 

[crazy4disney]

If I recall what insiders have shared correctly, the retheme was already in the works for Disneyland but not for WDW until the events of 2020 prompted both an expansion and an acceleration of the plan. To be clear, I don’t think the much-maligned petition played any role in this shift, nor do I believe that WDW’s Splash Mountain could have outlived its West Coast counterpart for very long even if 2020 hadn’t happened.

A Cali redo probably made more sense with the NOLA connection and tie in etc. Possibly a restaurant where it was being done as something “new” maybe. But just like the Mission Breakout never made it to the east coast when we heard how many “insiders” if i recall correctly say it was never happened. Same could have happened here. But again. Imo i dont think Florida was ever getting rethemed. Again. MY opinion. Whether you agree or disagree.

 

[LittleBuford]

A Cali redo probably made more sense with the NOLA connection and tie in etc. Possibly a restaurant where it was being done as something “new” maybe. But just like the Mission Breakout never made it to the east coast when we heard how many “insiders” if i recall correctly say it was never happened. Same could have happened here. But again. Imo i dont think Florida was ever getting rethemed. Again. MY opinion. Whether you agree or disagree.

I agree the Florida retheme wouldn’t be happening now if the events of 2020 hadn’t occurred, but I’m of the opinion that it would have happened eventually. The connection to SotS was always going to prove fatal one way or the other.

 

[tanc]

I'm excited for D23 but I wonder how worried Disney is going about it. The rumors that are floating around are going to make it very very interesting. The public is obviously going to respond. I'm wondering if any animatronics will be showcased or if they might show us some screens.

Regardless I just want real information. I'm tired of just concepts, I want to at least see something being done.