News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[Kirby86]

I guess this will be causing Walt to start spinning once again in his grave. So how fast do you all think his rpm will be this time? I figure the greater the dislike the faster the rpm.

Walt wouldn't care about Splash it was past his time. The overall state of the parks though? Fast enough to power all of Disney World

 

[FettFan]

It doesn’t. It fits into a Disney theme park that has always played fast and loose with reality, much to our delight (till now, it seems).

Not quite. We saw the same complaints when the BAH stayed up for an extended run, when Avatar was put into Animal Kingdom, when the Tangled Bathrooms were built within sight lines of the Haunted Mansion, when Frozen was put into Norway, when GotG was rumored to be replacing the Great Movie Ride, when GotG was rumored to be replacing Tower or Terror, when GotG actually did replace universe of energy, and when Harmonious was mutated from being a worthy successor to Illuminations RoE into being Now That’s What I Call Disney/Pixar’s Greatest Hits.

Some things just don’t belong.

 

[Incomudro]

Most people will probably just call it the Princess and the Frog ride or Splash Mountain...new name doesn't matter much outside of the uber nerds, but this ride's name is pretty boring I won't deny that

"Tiana's"

 

[LittleBuford]

Not quite. We saw the same complaints when the BAH stayed up for an extended run, when Avatar was put into Animal Kingdom, when the Tangled Bathrooms were built within sight lines of the Haunted Mansion, when Frozen was put into Norway, when GotG was rumored to be replacing the Great Movie Ride, when GotG was rumored to be replacing Tower or Terror, when GotG actually did replace universe of energy, and when Harmonious was mutated from being a worthy successor to Illuminations RoE into being Now That’s What I Call Disney/Pixar’s Greatest Hits.

Some things just don’t belong.

Those examples have nothing to do with my point, though. I'm talking about realism vs. fantasy within a particular attraction, not questions of fit or quality.

 

[Incomudro]

On the VA coast? Near Jamestown settlement?
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Point is, we're talking animated movies here. So whether it's mountains in the Louisiana bayou or Yosemite Valley 2.0 near the Virginia shoreline... nobody should try to think too much about these details.

Looks like a better film to swap the theme of Splash to.

 

[Incomudro]

I don't say this often, but I'm kind of on the side of Disney management here that it would have been a bit of a waste to design a whole other second replacement for Splash Mountain and an all-new PatF attraction for MK because a Louisiana-based attraction is a slightly awkward fit for Frontierland at MK.

Maybe if we were talking replacing it with a Wreck it Ralph attraction I would agree, but we're talking replacing a ride set in rural Georgia with one set in rural Louisiana, which is not that great a leap. The exterior is also not going to look all that different such that it clashes any more than Splash does.

I agree.
I wish this wasn't happening, but the visual or geographic fit isn't really an issue for me.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Perhaps they'll remove the thrill and and it'll just be a nice gentle conveyor belt-driven journey to the bottom. No Splash.

That’s exactly what I’m afraid…another WDI lameathon that breaks down

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Walt wouldn't care about Splash it was past his time. The overall state of the parks though? Fast enough to power all of Disney World

You couldn’t be further off…but I appreciate your bravery

 

[Tha Realest]

oh my god. Now we want the historical accuracy of the levees in the ride.
The ride about a girl who kissed a frog, became a frog, talked to fireflies, met a singing alligator and was pursued by a man who controlled (at least tried) voodoo spirits.

I agree it is silly. So take it up with WDI, which scheduled a quick, last minute tour two weeks ago of museums to show how hard their Imagineers were working to make this attraction authentic to the time and location.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I agree it is still. So take it up with WDI, which scheduled a quick, last minute tour two weeks ago of museums to show how hard their Imagineers were working to make this attraction authentic to the time and location.

I have a hard time blaming WDI for that…or anything. It would be like shooting the messenger

WDI seems merely the artistic appendage of two-three upper managers that seem to not be appropriate for these decisions to date.

The days of sklar pushing Eisner/wells on the merits of projects using designs from the likes of Baxter, Rhode, etc. are long gone.

 

[networkpro]

I have a hard time blaming WDI for that…or anything. It would be like shooting the messenger

WDI seems merely the artistic appendage of two-three upper managers that seem to not be appropriate for these decisions to date.

The days of sklar pushing Eisner/wells on the merits of projects using designs from the likes of Baxter, Rhode, etc. are long gone.

It's just "culture washing" a management call. WDI is just a fan that's being waved over a situation as a bandaid.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Not quite. We saw the same complaints when the BAH stayed up for an extended run, when Avatar was put into Animal Kingdom, when the Tangled Bathrooms were built within sight lines of the Haunted Mansion, when Frozen was put into Norway, when GotG was rumored to be replacing the Great Movie Ride, when GotG was rumored to be replacing Tower or Terror, when GotG actually did replace universe of energy, and when Harmonious was mutated from being a worthy successor to Illuminations RoE into being Now That’s What I Call Disney/Pixar’s Greatest Hits.

Some things just don’t belong.

Splash Mountain features Singing Rodents from Georgia in the Old West, set about a hundred years after the rest of the land it's in.

Princess and the Frog is just as adequate (or inadequate) a fit for the park as the attraction it's replacing.

 

[LittleBuford]

set about a hundred years after the rest of the land it's in.

Frontierland is themed to the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, no?

 

[Smiley/OCD]

I have a hard time blaming WDI for that…or anything. It would be like shooting the messenger

WDI seems merely the artistic appendage of two-three upper managers that seem to not be appropriate for these decisions to date.

The days of sklar pushing Eisner/wells on the merits of projects using designs from the likes of Baxter, Rhode, etc. are long gone.

This exactly…there isn’t anyone in the company anymore like Marty Sklar, who played such an important role between the imagineers and the CEO…for his faults, they don’t make ‘em like that anymore and honestly, I don’t know if Marty would have quit or Chapek would have fired him. I would have like to be a fly on that office wall though…

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Again I ask: To the retheme apologists, how do you account for the long layoff in development of this attraction? Doesn't this seem to indicate they are not putting their best foot forward here?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Again I ask: To the retheme apologists, how do you account for the long layoff in development of this attraction? Doesn't this seem to indicate they are not putting their best foot forward here?

No…it indicates bob’s a cheap …which will be born out for 10 years if my hunch is right.

That’s why there needs to be a change in lineup

 

[JustInTime]

You mean like this frontier?
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or this one?
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or this one?
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or this one?

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or this one?
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I see frontier mountains in all of them.

I don’t know how to tell you this but the Song of the South takes place in the South. Which was my point. So a Louisiana bayou fits just as well…

 

[larryz]

I just have to say that I'm looking forward to riding Mount Bayou.

 

[JustInTime]

I think the argument is that the Louisiana setting of Tiana is no less 'frontier' than the Georgia setting of Splash.

Exactly!!

 

[JustInTime]

Again I ask: To the retheme apologists, how do you account for the long layoff in development of this attraction? Doesn't this seem to indicate they are not putting their best foot forward here?

They have enough talent in Imagineering where that doesn’t worry me. They just have to want to do it and do it right.